Lack of female characters in Doomsday
Im not sure why there’s not many female characters in the Doomsday line up. The new avengers team has all men when even back in 2012 they at least had Natasha. The gender ratio is 21:5 which I honestly find odd considering they have introduced so many amazing female characters these past few years, enough to fill a whole team. I hope that maybe they are just waiting to announce more but who knows.
They should/should’ve add:
Kate Bishop
Captain Marvel
Ms. Marvel
She-Hulk
Ironheart
America Chavez
Even Valkyrie
What do you think? Do you think they’re going to announce more female characters later on? I hope so.
They should/should’ve add:
Kate Bishop
Captain Marvel
Ms. Marvel
She-Hulk
Ironheart
America Chavez
Even Valkyrie
What do you think? Do you think they’re going to announce more female characters later on? I hope so.
Commentaires
Makes me think that while her name won’t be on a chair… she’ll still make a surprise appearance.
Avengers with Thor about to defeat X-men…. Nightcrawler says, “Man, we could use someone who could also control lightning.”
Boom, Storm shows up and causes mayhem. Epic Thor v Storm battle for the ages.⚡️
MCU is all about surprises, so that’s my hope.
If she had issues with Marvel I think she would have reacted differently. Haven’t seen other interviews though so this is all I got.
You could reason that maybe they're 'drip feeding' modern audiences x-men characters in 2025 but eh. And as much as I enjoy Mystique, it really does feel weird she's the only female x-men (a character who just so happens to be the most sexualized by movie only fans).
Most of those characters didn’t make a big impression with crowds. Which is a pity, cause I rather liked Kate Bishop and Ms. Marvel.
Honestly, I suspect/kinda hope many of these characters (including those in the movie) are also cleaned up with a soft Marvel reset.
Its like they saw the numbers on 'The Marvels' and decided to throw their hands in the air. "Oh well, we tried. Solo female superheroes don't sell well. We'll just go back to making movies and shows with straight white male leads."
Agatha wasn't a strong performer. It topped out at around 14 million after a few months of release.
That's in contrast to Fallout's 65 million in two weeks, or Wednesday's 95 million shortly after release.
It might be viable as a Disney+ effort, but Agatha isn't going to pull much at the box office with views that low.
I remember the chairs and them claiming there will be more characters.
There was the supposed leaked concept art but thats about it.
Disney's not going to tie their "Absolutely cannot fail or everyone is getting fired" movie to cinema history's biggest bomb. They don't want a single message of "You have to watch this movie you all rejected" to be part of Doomsday's lead-up.
In general though I agree with you, OP.
I also doubt that the announced cast are the only characters in the film; just the most prominent. Like, Okoye hasn’t been mentioned yet, but I can easily see her appearing alongside Shuri. Same with Valkyrie and Thor.
The MCU used to have an issue.. absolutely agreed. Things have changed since no?
Carol Danvers came along who got two of her own movies. Literally saved everyone in Endgame. Ms. Marvel and Monica started amongst side of her.
Natasha got her own movie - albeit too late. But at least they gave her one.
Shuri was just the lead of her own movie. That movie did fantastic in terms of gross.
Yelena was basically the lead for Tbunderbolts. Didn’t do great in gross, but considered one of the best phase 5 filsm.
Wanda kinda co-stared as the Antagonist in the last Strange movie. Was just as much her movies as it was Strnages.
On top of that Katie Bishop (co-lead), Ironheart, Wanda, Echo, She-Hulk, Agatha, Ms. Marvel were all leads of their own shows. Elsa Bloodstone was at minimum a co-lead as well.
Also, Ms. Marvel was basically the lead of the new zombies.
To say women in the MCU haven’t gotten prominent roles is pretty silly and dishonest at this point it seems.
Edit. lol. Using logic and not emotions, tell me how I’m wrong.
Yelena and Shuri have indeed been well-received, but they are already confirmed for *Doomsday*. Wanda is also the one I was referring to as having been killed off - she has been the most notable breakout female character, but she is being treated as having died after *Multiverse of Madness*. An already packed *Avengers* movie is not the place to address that, either.
Captain Marvel is the most notable omission, but I’m sure that she will be in *Doomsday* if the film actually wants to address the Monica cliffhanger. However, although Brie Larson didn’t deserve the obsessive hate boner some people had for her, we can’t ignore that *The Marvels* flopped hard. Of course, Ant-Man is still in the cast after *Quantumania*, so who knows what’s going on behind the scenes.
How successful the Disney+ shows have or haven’t been is harder to judge, as streaming services are never open with these kind of things. I really liked Kate Bishop in *Hawkeye*, and it’s criminal how she’s been underutilised since. Not sure why you wouldn’t sing to the heavens about having Hailee Steinfeld in your film, though - unless there’s another cast announcement in the future (Hugh Jackman is noticeably absent…).
I believe that (concept art leak) >!she and Kamala!< were featured in concept art that leaked a while back, so maybe they could still appear.
[Concept Art Leak] >!She-Hulk was similarly seen in leaked concept art, so she could still appear (unless Tatiana Maslany has burned bridges with the mouse after her recent boycott comments, I guess)!<. We also don’t really know how her series did, as streamers are really cagey about that stuff. So, we can’t really call her show a flop or a success.
Then that leaves characters like Echo, Agatha, and Elsa Bloodstone. I never finished *Echo* or got around to *Ironheart*, but I thoroughly enjoyed *Agatha All Along* and *Werewolf by Night*, but I can’t see those characters having a notable role in an *Avengers* movie.
When, like I just pointed out, really isn’t the case anymore.
As for Doomsday… I’m not going to prematurely judge it or assume until we’ve seen the movie.
The answer to getting more popular and better developed female characters is.... to actually put them on-screen.
2) Outside factors. She-Hulks actress basically blacklisted herself
3) Logical reasoning. Many of these heroes are somewhere busy as of now. This movie seems to be about different teams joining to fight together. -
Kate Bishop will I assume eventually be part of a Young Avenegers team
Captain Marvel is somewhere in space worrying about bigger things. Ma marvel and Monica were with her.
Iron heart would probably hanging out in Wakanda.
Valkyrie is the leader of a country.
None of these characters have really had the time to be part of a newly formed group of Avengers.
She is not. I assume he’s got a longer leash
Fuck, this is boring. Do better, bots.
It'll just be a shame that Carol gets mis/not-handled by the Russos for two Avengers movies in a row and Monica's plot point of being in the/a Xmen universe gets dropped. At least visually, Carol's costume looks great and she was cool in the beginning of Endgame when they arrived on Thanos' planet. So I want her to work.
Yelena and Kate Bishop were fine from what I've seen, like they're written decently but it doesn't seem like a high bar. Though if anything a lot of MCU characters have been written atrociously in recent times, in different ways ofc, not just women or people of colour. Like, almost everyone was awful at some point in the last few years of their appearances, whether cause of poor acting, poor writing, or just appearing in a bad movie.
Way back I was all about "Yeah, more female characters let's go!" cause I wanted them to be written well. Then I watched Captain Marvel and felt the monkey's paw curl. Natasha and Wanda had a good run but even they weren't handled the best, there was so much more you could do with those characters.
wtf is black widow gonna do against Thanos bruv, just have her do spy stuff where she infiltrates Thanos ' ship or something, like how she shrugged off Loki playing her in the first Avengers cause she was playing HIM. You have all these other characters just doing cool stuff and then the girl character is just going pew pew. It's both hilarious and sad, at least in that movie it didn't last long and she went on to be instrumental in closing the portal, but even that felt like the writers had no idea what else to do with her.