What were some seemingly hinted at plot lines or moments that you thought would be much more important than they ended up becoming? What were theories you were convinced you’d worked out that never ended up happening?
I’ve been thinking back on Infinity War and there were two moments that I was absolutely positive were going to be much bigger deals than they ended up being
1. When Tony was aboard the ship headed for Titan and Pepper calls him as the call was breaking up her last words were “I’m going to.” In the subtitles it’s written out as “I’m going toO.” As in she’s going to find her way to him. With him stuck on Titan at the end of the movie I was so sure that that wording was intentional and they were telling us that Pepper was going to play a role in rescuing him. Especially since Gwyneth had shared with us a behind the scenes picture of her wearing what looked like an Iron Man suit and we know the character has donned a suit in the comics. Obviously as we now know Carol ended up saving Tony and Nebula and Pepper only suits up for the final battle.
2. I was so certain that the fact that the only person Thanos addresses by name among the heroes was Tony was going to be a big deal. We know how obsessed with a bigger threat Tony had been ever since the attack on New York. Thanos was his destiny. It seemed like they were hinting that that obsession went both ways. Thanos addresses Tony by name and reveals he has knowledge of him. After Thanos stabs Tony he talks to him with respect and seems genuine when he says that he hopes people remember Tony. Everyone else he treats as an annoyance at best but with Tony he seemed almost remorseful that in the course of fulfilling “his destiny” he had to kill Tony. With how important Tony was in the MCU’s universe, that Thanos himself would recognize Tony felt to me like that was going to be important later.
1. When Tony was aboard the ship headed for Titan and Pepper calls him as the call was breaking up her last words were “I’m going to.” In the subtitles it’s written out as “I’m going toO.” As in she’s going to find her way to him. With him stuck on Titan at the end of the movie I was so sure that that wording was intentional and they were telling us that Pepper was going to play a role in rescuing him. Especially since Gwyneth had shared with us a behind the scenes picture of her wearing what looked like an Iron Man suit and we know the character has donned a suit in the comics. Obviously as we now know Carol ended up saving Tony and Nebula and Pepper only suits up for the final battle.
2. I was so certain that the fact that the only person Thanos addresses by name among the heroes was Tony was going to be a big deal. We know how obsessed with a bigger threat Tony had been ever since the attack on New York. Thanos was his destiny. It seemed like they were hinting that that obsession went both ways. Thanos addresses Tony by name and reveals he has knowledge of him. After Thanos stabs Tony he talks to him with respect and seems genuine when he says that he hopes people remember Tony. Everyone else he treats as an annoyance at best but with Tony he seemed almost remorseful that in the course of fulfilling “his destiny” he had to kill Tony. With how important Tony was in the MCU’s universe, that Thanos himself would recognize Tony felt to me like that was going to be important later.
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Except Bucky doesn't have a vibranium arm yet lol
I feel like subtitles, even on major films, make a fair amount of mistakes.
She is definitely cut off mid sentence. You can hear it.
Yes, I know. Notice I didn’t say it was Pepper. I’m saying Friday wasn’t saying “I’m going too”, rather she was cut off mid sentence from what she was trying to say.
lmao what in the world are you talking about?
Thor's vision of Ragnarok in Age of Ultron.
Mordo trying to eliminate magic.
Mac Gargan going after Spider-Man (seemingly going to finally be resolved next year).
2 What other payoff would there have been? Endgame Thanos didn't care much about Tony. He'd only recently become aware of the Avengers at all at that point in time, they weren't a recurrent thorn in his side.
For me though, it was Ultron's motivation. I like Age of Ultron more than most, but I cannot grasp why the film spends a lot of time implying or outright stating he doesn't want humanity to be destroyed, just to be improved (presumably being uploaded into artificial bodies, although that's not specified; could be he was going to be the father of the Cars universe for all we know) and then he has a toy taken away and does a hard swerve into "LOL the only thing left on this planet will be me". There was a much more engaging story there if someone could have brushed the junk off it.
Also, The Leader. Shame no one ever did anything with him after they teased him back in '08. Yep, big shame. Never saw him again.
1. Vulture and Scorpion never got their second outing after Homecoming
2. On the same point, what the HELL was Sony planning to do with the back and forth crossovers between the MCU and the SPUMC in Venom and Morbius?
3. Still waiting for Mordo's evil turn from the end of Doctor Strange
4. The blindingly obvious setup in Infinity War of cutting off Cull Obsidian's hand which then wasn't paid off by doing the same to Thanos
Pepper: “Come back here, Tony, I swear to god. Come back here right now. (Static crackles) Come Back…”
Friday: “Boss, we’re losing her…(voice breaking) I’m going too…”
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It actually makes far more sense for Friday to be saying I’m going as well, as Friday literally just said, “boss we’re losing her.” And tony was actively moving out of range of earth communication in that moment, which is where his AI server exists. And the rest of the film Friday is not with him.
It would be a ridiculous coincidence for Friday to be making a completely different statement, which just happens to be the exact same words as what makes most direct sense, by saying I’m going to… do something, try to reconnect, whatever, when literally the sentence “I’m going too” literally follows what you’d say after having just lost contact with pepper.
You have to do mental gymnastics to convince yourself that Friday was saying she was going to… do something. Like I get this was your original interpretation, and maybe you’ve believed it for years, but holding onto your idea in the face of proof is self-defeating. Today you learned something new
I've seen some things, man.
Don't get me wrong; you're right about what Friday is saying in Infinity War, but official disc/streaming releases of major motion pictures absolutely *do* have subtitle errors sometimes.
i also thought we would learn that Dr. Erskine's super soldier serum was originally derived from the heart shaped herb.
I know they wanted to give Tony an epic ending and complete his arc. But I would have been thrilled if as Pepper was kneeling in front of him, he started glowing as Extremis healed whatever damage had been done. Because as Tony said, guys like him know how to cover their own ass.
The Cradle that Tony built with Helen was the less-invasive refinement of Extremis. It was also built into his suit, and he used it to heal during his fight with Thanos.
That may have been the scene I was talking about. Thank you friend.
2. In the second Ant-Man film - Sonny Burch was working for a mysterious buyer that wasn't named. Thought it would be a big thing for the sequel but nothing came out of it.
3. In the third Ant-Man film - Scott seemingly feels something is off and if him killing Kang might have made things worse. We then see a bunch of Kangs preparing for conflict. Thought it would be a big thing for Avengers but nothing came out of it.
Friday: Boss we’re losing her, I’m going too
Meaning that she’s going off comms as Tony gets too far for the reachable communication.
I get that the celestial in the ocean shows up in Captain America but I just want to see people talk about Arishem.