The Fantastic Four: First Steps is no longer in the top 10 highest grossing films worldwide of 2025.
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ExpressMud80382025-12-03 04:46
Makes sense. It basically had the same plot as Rise of the Silver Surfer.
fuzzyfoot882025-12-03 04:48
I don’t think “similar plot” had anything to do with it…
veemonjosh2025-12-03 04:52
It's almost as if they were based on the same story arc.
Practical-Level-62652025-12-03 04:47
Crazy how Jurassic World can keep whipping out bad movies and still make a buttload
xXKingDadXx2025-12-03 04:50
Name any other movies with dinosaurs, because I genuinely can't. They got the Dino market cornered lol.
eBICgamer20102025-12-03 04:51
65, but Sony sucks at making films so yeah.
Weird_Devil2025-12-03 06:50
Sony live action sucks at making films. Sony aninated is great
Practical-Level-62652025-12-03 04:51
True. Unless you count Godzilla haha
Goatfellon2025-12-03 04:59
Seriously. My sister in law basically goes without question every time because: DINOSAURS.
Shes openly admitted she knows theyre shit but like... dinosaurs.
Shes clearly not alone in this
Miffernator2025-12-03 05:11
All I am saying is a Dino Crisis film. Horror and Dinosaurs = 300,000,000 easily. Especially if it’s good.
pajamajoe2025-12-03 05:54
Horror doesn't typically box office very well
Miffernator2025-12-03 05:59
2025 4 horror films did over two to three hundred million dollars. Two of them are original films. So no.
pajamajoe2025-12-03 06:06
$300M would put it in the top 23 horror films of all time, so yes
-Darkslayer2025-12-03 05:14
I mean to be fair the way they do the Dinos is REALLY EFFIN COOL 😂🤣
Gorilla_Dookie2025-12-03 05:22
Clever girl
mypussywagondied2025-12-03 05:46
I got chu. Upvote.
iskin2025-12-03 05:43
Hopefully one day we'll get a Turok the Dinosaur Hunter movie. It will probably be bad but at least better than the last two Jurassic World movies. Then maybe they'll have some competition.
a_phantom_limb2025-12-03 06:24
This is exactly it. But damn, do I ever wish that they were actually good movies.
Rude_Helicopter80782025-12-03 16:25
I mean the transformers bay movies weren’t exactly high cinema but damn if I loved them
FoxyMiira2025-12-03 04:59
Kids love dinosaurs
matty_nice2025-12-03 05:06
Which is why Ka-Zar needs a film. Superheroes plus Dinosaurs? 1Billion Dollars!!!!!
PhiveAM2025-12-03 09:08
Hear me out, land before time live action.
ThePreciseClimber2025-12-03 09:26
Oh, is that why The Land Before Time got 13 sequels?
Ronenthelich2025-12-03 12:37
But those were all direct to VHS/DVD.
Stormik2025-12-03 10:22
Ice Age and Toy Story, duh!
And Tyrannosaurus Azteca - awesome movie, top notch CGI, highly recommend
>!Just kidding, awful movie and Rock's Scorpion King is photorealistic compared to that movie's CGI.!<
spidermanuel2025-12-03 12:49
Primitive War came out this year but it definitely didnt make its way to general audiences
smokingace1822025-12-03 14:13
Primitive war
65
ThunderBird8472025-12-03 05:01
Because "Good or bad" is an opinion and the quality of a product being put out for mass consumption is subjective.
Not to say it was great, but it was fine 2 hours to spend in movie theaters for kids, family audience and someone who's casually going to a movie theatre. And it definitely had its moments which were successful in delivering a minimum level of overall satisfaction for the audience.
magical_midget2025-12-03 05:12
I have watched all Jurassic park/world films with my 6yo. Every movie follows the same formula.
20 minutes of exposition (and usually no dinos the first 15 min), then 60-90 minutes of a group of people trying to survive not being eaten.
It may sound reductive, but my son, 6yo, has commented “it always start boring, where is the part where the dinos eat the people”.
So if you want to know why, because seeing dinos eating people is fun, that’s it, you root for the characters you like, you hope they eat the lawyer or whatever they set as the villain.
Sir__Will2025-12-03 05:20
> you root for the characters you like, you hope they eat the lawyer or whatever they set as the villain.
XD
DuckyHornet2025-12-03 09:43
Malcolm summed up the entire franchise in the second movie when he said "first there's oooing and ahhing. After that is running and screaming."
yuvi30002025-12-03 07:04
I thought this movie, Rebirth, was way better than the previous film, Dominion, except for the incredibly stupid decision to say that the dinosaurs that spread out across Earth just died out around the rest of the world.
Archolm2025-12-03 08:38
Maybe in the next movie they re-re-populate the world? Would you go see that? Tell them so they can make more of what you like
yuvi30002025-12-03 09:13
I'm probably going to see a new Jurassic Park movie either way. But it's just frustrating to me that people are saying the latest one is terrible when I feel that it's the closest to the original vibe in a long time. The story might be iffy in places. The characters may not be as memorable to most, but the vibe really had it nailed down. You constantly felt like anything bad could happen after they got towards the island and they kept that feeling of unease and tension. It felt like half adventure and half horror. Not like Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom and Dominion where it was almost entirely adventure and action and very little horror and suspense in the overall vibe.
Paladar22025-12-03 07:04
For dinos this one was pretty good. Had the Quetzlacoatlus, updated Spinosaurus, really cool scenes with the Mososaurus and of course the Trex. I liked it a lot better than Dominion and Lost world.
kakarot-32025-12-03 07:16
Great movies for kids. Kids love dinosaurs. It’s an endless cash stream lol
Fashizl692025-12-03 07:19
Jurassic Park has been the one and only dinosaur name brand in the market for any product since 1992.
They own dinosaurs. Films, toys, games, clothing, etc. it's all Jurassic Park brand.
The only other dinosaur media you'll even hear of are documentaries and those aren't a marketable name brand.
Kids and adults love dinosaurs. If the choice is between dinosaurs and no dinosaurs, it's always dinosaurs.
drnprz2025-12-03 09:20
people love dinosaurs
henningknows2025-12-03 04:50
When was the last time marvel had nothing in the top ten?
They release no movies that year - pandemic exception I think?
Sir__Will2025-12-03 05:21
yeah but 2020 doesn't count
urgasmic2025-12-03 04:58
2011.
DayMysterious47172025-12-03 05:06
2020 but marvel didn't release anything that year
henningknows2025-12-03 05:08
They would have if the pandemic didn’t hit. So it’s fair to disregard 2020 for the purposes of this conversation
DiddysOilDealer2025-12-03 05:50
Yeah let’s just ignore an entire calendar year because marvel didn’t have a theatrical release
What kinda bias is this lmfao
dark-canuck2025-12-03 05:52
The kind the recognized that all movies were fucked when the world shut down
ACEof522025-12-03 05:53
I mean its a conversation about marvel movies making into the top ten highest grossing in a year. They didn’t release anything for that year. Its not really relevant to the conversation. Like saying they didnt make it in the top ten in 1999
SpooderMan11082025-12-03 05:54
To me, it’s actually more interesting to look for the most recent year where Marvel Studios had releases but still didn’t land in the top 10.
So yeah, I agree we should just ignore 2020, because of course they weren’t in the top 10 that year.
Thundergod2502025-12-03 05:40
Funny Demon Slayer is present in both that lmfao
ThePreciseClimber2025-12-03 09:25
It's a Covid Slayer AND a Marvel Slayer, how about that.
Spider-Fan772025-12-03 05:15
Not including 2020, the answer is 2011. They released Thor 1 and Captain America 1 that year, but neither were in the top ten.
Paladar22025-12-03 07:03
Both were pretty mid imo. Their movies became really good with Avengers going forward
frezz2025-12-03 04:50
Hell yeah
Single-Pianist-22112025-12-03 04:52
Good. They need the wake up call
deekaydubya2025-12-03 04:56
Maybe THIS wake up call will be the one. Lol
Single-Pianist-22112025-12-03 05:37
I think they were really betting on F4 being a hit. Idk where you live but the marketing in the US was crazy. It was everywhere.
napoelonDynaMighty2025-12-03 05:02
It’s over. Ain’t no waking up
When the Doom Avengers fails to make a profit they’re gonna shut it down
NinetyYears2025-12-03 05:17
MCU over. Got it. Thanks russian bot.
CaptHayfever2025-12-03 05:02
Wake up to what? They already knew things were in trouble. They needed to get budgets down (Brave New World), get reviews up (Thunderbolts), & get back to profitability (First Steps). Next year, they have Spider-Man & Avengers.
matty_nice2025-12-03 05:10
Man, I can't wait until we get a lower budget MCU film. Every film that we know is in development or likely to come out in the next 3 years is gonna have a higher budget. Brand New Day, Doomsday, Secret Wars, X-Men, Black Panther 3, Dr Strange 3...are all gonna have high budgets.
What does a 150M Fantastic Four film look like today? Is it even worth it?
ExternalMedical94922025-12-03 06:17
U r right but u r in a mcu majority sub so you'll be downvoted
ThunderBird8472025-12-03 04:54
If you notice how only Superman & Fantastic Four have more than 50% Box Office share in domestic, and BNW is close to our, only other Hollywood movie that is domestic heavy is Wicked, but that's understandable.
International has gone down for Hollywood in general, but for CBMs, it has really gone off the cliff post 2022.
Anyways coming to the movie, I never got the "best since Endgame" shouts, maybe for die hard fans and longtime F4 fans, but clearly audience didn't care. Also it's understandable, it was just hugely lacking in entertainment.
It had less action, dull tone, characters were so so, and in the world where Monsterverse is a successful franchise where Godzilla & Kong can wipe out entire cities within minutes, you just can't have something like Galactus just walk around a city and nothing happens, Just a non exciting product overall.
ValuableKill2025-12-03 05:31
Wicked just came out, and global box office results usually lag behind domestic, since they only post once a week. So wicked may actually become more balanced with time.
I agree, the city scene with Galactus was a huge let down. Honestly, the whole second half of the movie, after they returned to Earth, was incredibly boring.
Best since Endgame for me is between Shang-Chi, No Way Home, and Deadpool & Wolverine. I'd probably give it to D&W if it wasn't for the bad cgi...
AbsoluteShall2025-12-03 04:55
First time no MCU film hasn’t been above that threshold since 2011 in years there has been a movie released. I posted this at r/boxoffice and it was deemed low effort lol :(
hexcraft-nikk2025-12-03 09:19
Sub sucks ass, you basically have to post and comment within their meta or they mass downvote/delete your posts
deekaydubya2025-12-03 04:56
This isn’t a surprise at all
Nosemyfart2025-12-03 05:02
I unfortunately could not go to the theater to watch this movie. Caught it on streaming and was very excited since I'm a huge Matt fan from Sunny as well. But, the movie left me very disappointed. It just felt disjointed. I don't know.... I was so excited for the silver surfer, grew up watching FF on cartoon network, but this movie didn't do anything for me.
kulitchipon2025-12-03 05:27
Watched it while it was out and it was good, but has no rewatchability factor for me while it's in Disney +.
RevanchistSheev662025-12-04 01:45
I’m not an F4 fan but this movie is probably the most overrated MCU movie of all time
sonegreat2025-12-03 05:03
The new Avatar movie is still to come. So it will basically be a race between Wicked and Superman for the 10th spot. I think Superman will win, but there is a chance that there are no superhero movies in the top 10.
FeralPsychopath2025-12-03 05:15
Wicked is performing like Thunderbolts, zero legs.
____mynameis____2025-12-03 06:23
Uhhh... Wicked 2 made in 10 days what Thunderbolts did in its entire run.
Not a good comparison
FeralPsychopath2025-12-03 06:26
I’m not talking dollars, I’m talking performance wise. It’s falling off a cliff.
hexcraft-nikk2025-12-03 09:07
The second half notoriously sucks, and the first movie itself wasn't as perfect as it's box office run would have you believe. Popular IP and Ariana is a big draw but people are fine waiting for it to hit streaming. And why wouldn't they, the cinematography was horrendous and not worth leaving your home to go see.
Comic_Book_Reader2025-12-03 11:52
OK, I don't care about Wicked whatsoever, but I've a lot of people, even critics, saying the movie looks like ass. Do they have like a fucking sepia tone filter over the whole movie or some shit?
Rhain19992025-12-03 11:59
Eh, I can understand critics and cinephiles saying that, but I don’t think most general audiences even noticed. It looked fine to me tbh
Cardinal_and_Plum2025-12-03 12:33
The look of those movies turned me off so hard. Normally any kind of fantasy thing would draw me in at least a little bit, but it looks like the whole thing takes place in a computer generated world. That's not what I should be thinking about while looking at Oz.
Towelie-420692025-12-04 04:37
Wicked doesn’t have much ground to stand on because the performance from the Broadway version are objectively better and that means a lot of the fans of the musical couldn’t give a flying fuck about the movies.
kakarot-32025-12-03 07:16
Avatar is dropping with less than 2 weeks left in the year. Would they count box office for it after the new year or split it over 2 years?
colderstates2025-12-03 08:44
Usually the entire gross gets counted against the release year, eg Sonic 3 is in the top 10 for last year but was released the week before Christmas.
marvelcomics222025-12-03 10:01
It releases in 2025, so all it's profit will be counted as a 2025 movie.
Boulder19832025-12-03 09:47
I had no idea the next Avatar film was coming out so soon. In my head, it was some time in 2026.
balthazar_edison2025-12-03 10:15
Zero chance wicked is beating Superman at this point.
SeniorRicketts2025-12-03 16:42
Last time no superhero was in the top 10 was like 2009?
paintpast2025-12-03 16:46
I keep forgetting Avatar is coming out and no one I know in person has mentioned it. It would be funny after everyone said Avatar 2 would bomb and it didn’t that everyone is now saying Avatar 3 is going to make a billion and it bombs instead.
eBICgamer20102025-12-03 05:04
Anyway, the MCU needs to find out whatever they do outside of Spider-Man and maybe Iron Man isn't appealing to kids and pre-teens. If you can't appeal to them you lose.
Edit: I don't think I need to add proof. It's available, you just need to do some digging. What I want to ask you is if you have kids, ask them if they like Marvel. That's all.
Syndana232025-12-03 05:25
X-men and specifically the new Wolverine can fix this issue
TDStarchild2025-12-03 05:05
Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan are MCU royalty, so I feel justified in saying to this sub that it’s a travesty that Sinners isn’t on this list
Maybe not the typical type of film that you’d expect to be, but goddamn that movie is brilliant
allthenamesaretaken42025-12-03 05:12
It was a great film and performed very well, no need to be upset it didn't make all the money.
Adorable_Ad_34782025-12-03 06:19
It's an original IP. Look at the Top 15. It's all established IPs.
If there is ever a Sinners 2, it will do more money than Sinners.
mrsirsouth2025-12-03 05:05
The movie was entertaining but felt like it has gaps and missing parts.
I watched just a few months ago and I would absolutely struggle telling it back to you.
It makes sense that it fell out of the top 10.
TheFestusEzeli2025-12-03 05:37
It was just simply decent to me, not many complaints from me but not too many compliments.
Comparing it to Quantummania or the shitty Thor movie, both had some really bad stuff that made it worse than F4 to me, but also Majors and Bale’s performances were much more compelling than anything in F4.
Adorable_Ad_34782025-12-03 06:17
Unpopular opinion: it felt like 2 films crammed into 1.
The 1st hour was about establishing the world of the FF and the family dynamics. They skipped most of the origin (a good call), but the pacing was awful. Ben has barely any dialogue with Sue; it's insane. They don't FEEL like a family despite all 4 living together for 5 years.
Then the 2nd half is hella rushed. It should have been a 2-parter. 1st film is about a low level threat (say Mole Man's kaijus) and about FAMILY. 2nd film is Galactus with Doom and The Watcher as supporting characters to set up Doom's arc in Doomsday/SecretWars.
hexcraft-nikk2025-12-03 09:22
It's pretty obvious that they filmed very little with all four actors together. That script screamed that it didn't write for the room but for as vague as could be compelled to paper
Ok_Employer78372025-12-03 05:06
These things are generational. The days of the MCU as a cultural behemoth are behind us. But 15 years of almost absolute cultural domination is a remarkable achievement.
matty_nice2025-12-03 05:17
I'm not sure I buy it.
Spider-Man has surprsised the generational aspect, and so can other characters like the X-Men.
The problem is just that the MCU fucked things up.
GillGruntFan532025-12-03 05:24
I think when it comes to this year, the slate was just poor. BNW is near unwatchable capeslop after Marvel won people back with DP&W, that put a bad taste in their mouth that wasn’t helped by Marvel sending Thunderbolts* out to die. Seriously, it had almost no marketing (see nearly no merch until months AFTER release). And then F4, while good, was more subdued and slow than people were expecting which wasn’t helped by Superman and Jurassic World being these big, exciting blockbusters.
Overall, just a weak lineup theatrically.
matty_nice2025-12-03 05:29
I think it goes further than that. It's not just this year. So many misfires, and audiences have lost interest.
Even Doomsday seems like it will be a dissapointment. It's either focusing on characters that audiences didn't care for, or somewhat nostalgia porn for X-Men characters from 20 years ago.
I don't really trust Marvel and Feige to fix things. Nothing really gives me hope that it will change. AND maybe I'm just being old, cynical, and negative.
AValorantFan2025-12-03 05:46
BNW could’ve been the best movie, F4 still wouldn’t have surpassed $600M and Thunderbolts still wouldn’t have surpassed $400M.
The Marvel name hasn’t brought people to the movie theater consistently since 2019, the success of these movies stand on their own or with respect to their sub-franchises
BP_9752025-12-03 05:48
I legit feel if they swapped the release order we would have seen way better performance.
Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, then save Brave New World for Last and make the after credits scene for it actually good
matty_nice2025-12-03 07:04
Don't think it would have really mattered for better performance.
BNW would have been crushed by Superman. The reviews just weren't there for that movie.
FF in May maybe could have been interesting, but I don't think it significantly changes things. The film always had a low ceiling. FF was probably helped due to the lack of competition in later July/August. It was the number 1 movie for two weeks, then Weapons was number 1 for 4 weeks.
FF had a huge opening, but had huge weekly drops.
Big_Epsilon2025-12-03 05:27
If they want this to be a really long term thing, they probably need to accept there will be peaks and troughs. Something like wrestling does this, it’ll suddenly get very hot and then have times outside the mainstream.
I just can’t see them continuing to make products for the core audience in the hope they hit a hot streak.
matty_nice2025-12-03 05:34
Depends on what we are discussing.
These characters will continue to be used. The IP isn't going anywhere. It's just a question of how it's used and whether there will be a fully connected universe.
But looks like the MCU is going to die after Secret Wars, rebooted in some form to create a new MCU. Call if whatever you like, but it's a reboot, probably a soft one like DC just did.
That new MCU could be a long term thing, but Marvel has to take the evergreen approach. Don't kill off Iron Man, don't age up characters, etc.
hexcraft-nikk2025-12-03 09:11
Their refusal to move on from nostalgia and bringing back old actors has put them in a corner. That's their only winning move left, and it's less effective as time goes on. By the time rdj and Evans and Hemsworth are all done, they'll have nothing.
X-Men today aren't a big draw, Disney spent a decade sabotaging their popularity over the film rights. And today is the hardest day for things to get as huge as they used to be. Everyone is on social media and streaming services and YouTube and tiktok. Cultural high points are fewer and far between. I think even spider man will struggle to hit 1 billion.
ExternalMedical94922025-12-03 06:14
X men franchise is no where near as popular as spiderman franchise.
matty_nice2025-12-03 06:44
It's probably the 2nd (or 3rd after Batman) superhero franchise. An X-Men film can make 1B.
A secondary or teritary X-Men character can still make a couple hundred million at the box office.
kakarot-32025-12-03 07:17
Spider-Man is going to make bank, as usual, next year. The lowest grossing Spider-Man movie made over 700M or so. It’s a guaranteed success
matty_nice2025-12-03 07:20
The question is how much.
1B doesn't seem like a guarantee. And definately doesn't seem like it's getting to the almost 2B the last film did.
I would want to see the trailer before making a prediction and there's still a lot we don't know.
kakarot-32025-12-03 07:33
Last one did 2B because of Andrew Garfield and Tobey McGuire. The nostalgia is what sold.
The new one seems interesting from what we know. The villain is going to probably determine how well it does. With Punisher in it too, we’ll see what they come up with. I think it still breaks 1B because he’s arguably the most popular superhero in the world (if not fighting with Batman for that spot) and kids are obsessed with Spider-Man
hexcraft-nikk2025-12-03 09:17
I'm of the same opinion. I think as long as the film isn't terrible it'll crawl to a billion- but there's a non zero chance it sputters and underperforms compared to expectations. General movie audiences are getting really tired.
cowpool202025-12-03 15:00
Spider-Man is it’s own thing. No point comparing that to the MCU, he will always he a box office draw because he’s the most popular.
People who aren’t into the MCU like Spider-Man.
perhapsascythe2025-12-03 14:58
Spiderman's coming next year
verissimoallan2025-12-03 05:10
It's very likely that Superman will also be out of the Top 10 or at the best case scenario, end in tenth place, thanks to Wicked: For Good, Zootopia 2 and Avatar 3.
LZRD122025-12-03 06:47
Superman will likely beat wicked 2 and end at 10th
pokeboy6262025-12-03 07:06
Superman will probably be 10th place. Wicked For Good is apparently not doing so good currently.
Arusly2025-12-03 07:41
Wicked 2 failed to reach 400m in 2nd week while Superman did, and not forget avatar 3 is coming.
the_explorer20032025-12-03 08:26
The legs for wicked 2 aren’t that strong as the first, superman will just be number 9 or 10
okay_sure_i_guess2025-12-03 05:11
F1 did better than F4 lol
Various-Salt4882025-12-03 05:48
F1 was fantastic. Wild experience in IMAX. F4 was good but it didn’t hold a candle to it.
eagc72025-12-03 07:21
They didn't bother making F2 and F3, that few people skipped F4 cause they felt they would be lost
ThePreciseClimber2025-12-03 09:29
Also, F9 came out 4 years ago, what the hell?
HawkeyeGild2025-12-03 05:17
Ne Zha 2 was 98% China domestic box office. Crazy to think how much they could bring in if their content had more global appeal
SpecificDisaster4042025-12-03 07:19
I don’t think appeal is the problem. It’s just that a lot of people don’t want to watch something Chinese-made because they think it’s not as good
Time_Entertainer_3192025-12-03 08:51
Oh. Soo… appeal then?
Ifky_2025-12-03 09:36
It's not so much the *content* that needs more global appeal though. (Which is what they're talking about). It's the country.
thefoodiedentist2025-12-03 05:18
Just found out about ne zha 2. Those are some crazy numbers.
I_Fear_Dolphins2025-12-03 05:21
Not really Marvel related but Disney related, it’s absolutely insane to me that Zootopia 2 moved into the top 10 in its opening weekend. Didn’t realize it had that audience, I know it’s wildly popular in China.
SpecificDisaster4042025-12-03 06:57
Just watched it in the theaters and it’s deserved imo. Might not have been great like the first one was but it’s a good sequel nonetheless
matty_nice2025-12-03 07:07
After Inside Out 2, it's hard to underestimate these films. Even years later, these films stay relevant to kids and families. I'm sure a lot of familes just have the original Zootopia on repeat on D+.
hexcraft-nikk2025-12-03 09:18
It's prohibitively expensive to do things with your kids today, and Chucky cheese/Dave and busters are dying. Movie theaters are some of the cheapest fun activities you can still do with your family. So these audiences will stick around throughout everything imo
Sudden_Caregiver_8092025-12-03 09:10
I’m an international student from China. I think Zootopia 2 might even become the highest-grossing film in the world this year. It might even become the biggest underdog surprise and make more money than Avatar 3, because the Chinese box office is such a strong factor. In China, Zootopia has already broken many of Ne Zha’s records. Its daily audience numbers are higher than Ne Zha 2, and it also has more screenings. I think the Chinese market may give it 700 million to 1 billion USD, or even more. In the most extreme case, it could do as well as Ne Zha 2 in China.
Chinese audiences generally love animated films. Middle-aged and older people in China don’t go to the cinema very often. But if their kids or grandkids want to watch a movie, the whole family will go together. In China, any movie that attracts kids has huge potential.
ThePreciseClimber2025-12-03 09:31
Well, Zootopia 1 WAS the 4th animated movie to surpass $1 billion in the box office. After Toy Story 3, Frozen and Minions.
Ragnarok_6192025-12-03 10:02
One of them is not like the others
ThePreciseClimber2025-12-03 10:16
Let me guess. The one with King Bob.
wunderwerks2025-12-03 05:22
I would rather see all these films based on ticket sales or weighted for inflation.
B1GG0r0n2025-12-03 05:27
Hollywood is creatively bankrupt. This list is almost exclusively remakes or sequels
Toshimoko292025-12-03 06:16
Hollywood follows money, sequels and remakes make money.
matty_nice2025-12-03 07:06
A lot more creativity in TV shows. So hard to argue that Hollywood is creatively bankrupt.
eagc72025-12-03 07:21
Because we the audience are telling Hollywood with our wallets that we are more interested in things we are familiar with.
People are screaming Disney needs to stop these remakes, then Lilo and Stitch makes a billion despite all of the cries for them to stop.
MarvelMind2025-12-03 05:28
Doesn’t matter. We got some great new characters to help tell future stories, more importantly those characters are immediately returning in Doomsday. Thunderbolts and First Steps were great MCU movies and sometimes after this many MCU movies about twenty years into a franchise it’s gonna be tough to keep breaking box office records year after year.
Tony_Rags2025-12-03 05:28
Oof
TomClancy58732025-12-03 05:28
M:I being in the top 10 and not even being profitable is something
Jay2324quinn2025-12-03 05:36
The weirdest part of mcu fans is when the follow how much a movie makes and track it down like if was there own bank account
IndominusTaco2025-12-03 05:55
idc what the box office says, F4 is peak
trytrymyguy2025-12-03 05:56
It’s already out on Disney+ so I watched it there. Guessing others will do the same now.
Adorable_Ad_34782025-12-03 06:09
Avatar 3 will displace Mission Impossible.
Superman will be the only superhero film in the Top 10 when all is said and done unless Wicked For Good displaces it (Wicked 1 made over 700 mill WW, I think Superman is out of the Top 10 for sure).
LZRD122025-12-03 06:49
Wicked 2 has really bad legs currently so I think supes is safe
pokeboy6262025-12-03 07:09
Wicked 2 is apparently not doing so good currently. It may end up below $600 million
_Streak_2025-12-03 06:17
Well, 2025 was a great run. So kind of expected.
13WillieBeaman2025-12-03 06:28
Dude, Ne Zha? I had no idea it was that big
Worried_Quarter4692025-12-03 06:30
Wow F1 made huge box office, guess Apple is a movie studio now
brettcb2025-12-03 06:33
The general public doesn't care about the fantastic four. I know for me as a die hard movie/show watcher but not comic reader I don't find them particularly interesting. I watched the movie but it was extremely skippable
Confident-Shift-97642025-12-03 12:54
This. They might as well focus on the next xmen.
eagc72025-12-03 20:54
It doesn't help either that to most of the general audience their exposure to the Fantastic Four has been the last 3 Fox movies which weren't received all that well, so that will impact how they view this film when the track record has been so bad
I compare it to Transformers, even though we have seen some improvement in the last few years in terms of quality for the movies, there is still the stain the Micheal Bay films left
Flying_Poltato2025-12-03 06:53
The fact that that terrible live adaption of Lilo and Stitch is there hurts me
revmun2025-12-03 06:53
Is demon slayer movie part 3 going to hit a billion? Thats insane...
Hankol2025-12-03 06:57
This list shows pretty well how irrelevant those charts are. I don't care for most of those movies. I don't even know most of them, including #1 - 7.
Slight-Tip-98562025-12-03 07:36
Understandable. It was subpar. Kinda boring.
RevanchistSheev662025-12-04 01:44
I completely agree, the villain was very one note and the movie was paced strangely
the_explorer20032025-12-03 08:24
expected
Cptawesome232025-12-03 12:45
What the hell is *Ne Zha 2* and why haven’t I seen it yet?
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Shes openly admitted she knows theyre shit but like... dinosaurs.
Shes clearly not alone in this
And Tyrannosaurus Azteca - awesome movie, top notch CGI, highly recommend
>!Just kidding, awful movie and Rock's Scorpion King is photorealistic compared to that movie's CGI.!<
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Not to say it was great, but it was fine 2 hours to spend in movie theaters for kids, family audience and someone who's casually going to a movie theatre. And it definitely had its moments which were successful in delivering a minimum level of overall satisfaction for the audience.
20 minutes of exposition (and usually no dinos the first 15 min), then 60-90 minutes of a group of people trying to survive not being eaten.
It may sound reductive, but my son, 6yo, has commented “it always start boring, where is the part where the dinos eat the people”.
So if you want to know why, because seeing dinos eating people is fun, that’s it, you root for the characters you like, you hope they eat the lawyer or whatever they set as the villain.
XD
They own dinosaurs. Films, toys, games, clothing, etc. it's all Jurassic Park brand.
The only other dinosaur media you'll even hear of are documentaries and those aren't a marketable name brand.
Kids and adults love dinosaurs. If the choice is between dinosaurs and no dinosaurs, it's always dinosaurs.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/month/june/2025/?area=XNDOM&grossesOption=calendarGrosses
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/2020/
What kinda bias is this lmfao
So yeah, I agree we should just ignore 2020, because of course they weren’t in the top 10 that year.
When the Doom Avengers fails to make a profit they’re gonna shut it down
What does a 150M Fantastic Four film look like today? Is it even worth it?
International has gone down for Hollywood in general, but for CBMs, it has really gone off the cliff post 2022.
Anyways coming to the movie, I never got the "best since Endgame" shouts, maybe for die hard fans and longtime F4 fans, but clearly audience didn't care. Also it's understandable, it was just hugely lacking in entertainment.
It had less action, dull tone, characters were so so, and in the world where Monsterverse is a successful franchise where Godzilla & Kong can wipe out entire cities within minutes, you just can't have something like Galactus just walk around a city and nothing happens, Just a non exciting product overall.
I agree, the city scene with Galactus was a huge let down. Honestly, the whole second half of the movie, after they returned to Earth, was incredibly boring.
Best since Endgame for me is between Shang-Chi, No Way Home, and Deadpool & Wolverine. I'd probably give it to D&W if it wasn't for the bad cgi...
Not a good comparison
Edit: I don't think I need to add proof. It's available, you just need to do some digging. What I want to ask you is if you have kids, ask them if they like Marvel. That's all.
Maybe not the typical type of film that you’d expect to be, but goddamn that movie is brilliant
If there is ever a Sinners 2, it will do more money than Sinners.
I watched just a few months ago and I would absolutely struggle telling it back to you.
It makes sense that it fell out of the top 10.
Comparing it to Quantummania or the shitty Thor movie, both had some really bad stuff that made it worse than F4 to me, but also Majors and Bale’s performances were much more compelling than anything in F4.
The 1st hour was about establishing the world of the FF and the family dynamics. They skipped most of the origin (a good call), but the pacing was awful. Ben has barely any dialogue with Sue; it's insane. They don't FEEL like a family despite all 4 living together for 5 years.
Then the 2nd half is hella rushed. It should have been a 2-parter. 1st film is about a low level threat (say Mole Man's kaijus) and about FAMILY. 2nd film is Galactus with Doom and The Watcher as supporting characters to set up Doom's arc in Doomsday/SecretWars.
Spider-Man has surprsised the generational aspect, and so can other characters like the X-Men.
The problem is just that the MCU fucked things up.
Overall, just a weak lineup theatrically.
Even Doomsday seems like it will be a dissapointment. It's either focusing on characters that audiences didn't care for, or somewhat nostalgia porn for X-Men characters from 20 years ago.
I don't really trust Marvel and Feige to fix things. Nothing really gives me hope that it will change. AND maybe I'm just being old, cynical, and negative.
The Marvel name hasn’t brought people to the movie theater consistently since 2019, the success of these movies stand on their own or with respect to their sub-franchises
Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, then save Brave New World for Last and make the after credits scene for it actually good
BNW would have been crushed by Superman. The reviews just weren't there for that movie.
FF in May maybe could have been interesting, but I don't think it significantly changes things. The film always had a low ceiling. FF was probably helped due to the lack of competition in later July/August. It was the number 1 movie for two weeks, then Weapons was number 1 for 4 weeks.
FF had a huge opening, but had huge weekly drops.
I just can’t see them continuing to make products for the core audience in the hope they hit a hot streak.
These characters will continue to be used. The IP isn't going anywhere. It's just a question of how it's used and whether there will be a fully connected universe.
But looks like the MCU is going to die after Secret Wars, rebooted in some form to create a new MCU. Call if whatever you like, but it's a reboot, probably a soft one like DC just did.
That new MCU could be a long term thing, but Marvel has to take the evergreen approach. Don't kill off Iron Man, don't age up characters, etc.
X-Men today aren't a big draw, Disney spent a decade sabotaging their popularity over the film rights. And today is the hardest day for things to get as huge as they used to be. Everyone is on social media and streaming services and YouTube and tiktok. Cultural high points are fewer and far between. I think even spider man will struggle to hit 1 billion.
A secondary or teritary X-Men character can still make a couple hundred million at the box office.
1B doesn't seem like a guarantee. And definately doesn't seem like it's getting to the almost 2B the last film did.
I would want to see the trailer before making a prediction and there's still a lot we don't know.
The new one seems interesting from what we know. The villain is going to probably determine how well it does. With Punisher in it too, we’ll see what they come up with. I think it still breaks 1B because he’s arguably the most popular superhero in the world (if not fighting with Batman for that spot) and kids are obsessed with Spider-Man
People who aren’t into the MCU like Spider-Man.
Chinese audiences generally love animated films. Middle-aged and older people in China don’t go to the cinema very often. But if their kids or grandkids want to watch a movie, the whole family will go together. In China, any movie that attracts kids has huge potential.
People are screaming Disney needs to stop these remakes, then Lilo and Stitch makes a billion despite all of the cries for them to stop.
Superman will be the only superhero film in the Top 10 when all is said and done unless Wicked For Good displaces it (Wicked 1 made over 700 mill WW, I think Superman is out of the Top 10 for sure).
I compare it to Transformers, even though we have seen some improvement in the last few years in terms of quality for the movies, there is still the stain the Micheal Bay films left