What's a character that you think could be the main piece and carry the mcu after secret wars
Like Tony and cap did?
For me that would be cyclops, i know he's on doomsday and secret wars probably but a new version and finally some deserved justice for his character could be what the mcu needs
For me that would be cyclops, i know he's on doomsday and secret wars probably but a new version and finally some deserved justice for his character could be what the mcu needs
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great characters, oscar nominated actresses and they have that same lighting chemistry tony and steve did
Peter to the rescue!
I never thought they were gonna do $700 milllion - 1 Billion like most people in this sub. They did amazing for a Fantastic Four movie, though.
These 2 movies will be the last we see of most of the Fox actors.
Or Shang-Chi. Simu Liu is great.
Ask RDJ how that works.
RDJ and Disney
I know this would rethread civil war a but with enough time between it wouldn't feel the same.
I like the idea of the mutant registration act sparking back up the same conflict that the Sokovia Accords introduced. Mutants are a more interesting conflict to me because unlike people choosing to be heroes, mutants don’t have a choice. And on the opposite side, it’s reasonable to be afraid when a kid can unexpectedly trigger his mutant power in a school or a supermarket and level a town. Mutants deserve equal rights, but their biology demands they be assessed differently. Nobody can be right really. Way better than the issue at the center of MCU Civil War IMO.
Edit: fixed it?
(For real feels like a whole bunch of Marsdens work in the 00s featured his love interest cheating on him 😅 to the point where I half expected his fiancee to leave him for Sonic in the Sonic movie 😂)
Other ones off the top of my head.
Enchanted, Patrick Dempsey.
The Notebook, Ryan Gosling.
That's because X1, X2 and X3 is actually Wolverine 1, Wolverine 2 and Wolverine 3 in disguise.
I would say one of the better X-men series to focus on Cyclops and not have Wolverine steal the show is the X-men anime. Cyke actually got to lead the team and Wolverine actually wasn't that much of a focus, got much the same screen time as the others, if anything Storm got shafted (using her powers made her super tired for some reason).
Of course that could well be because Wolverine already got a whole 12 episode anime to himself 😅
I loved the original X-Factor comic simply because it was about the founding X-Men and no wolverine was in it.
In the movies he doesn’t seem like a difference-maker in fights and he’s kind of a jerk/not a leader. I may be misremembering.
Cyclops, Jean grey maybe, and Storm
Let the cream rise to the top - that's what worked. That's what works.
cyclops, jean grey, xavier, magneto, deadpool, wolverine, storm...
Iron man gets away with the 20 minutes of helmet because rdjs chewing scenery out of uniform for HOURS.
Each cyclops actor was hamstrung by the glasses/goggles and there.
Reed Richards, Cyclops & Havok, Cable, White Vision & Wonderman, Doctor Strange, Nova, Starlord, Adam Warlock, these are all leader tier characters for example with alot of rich stories that haven't been explored yet (that I'd like to see more of at least) and those are just a few I could name off the top of my head.
Cosmic MCU is zany, fun and weird when they do it right. They just need an exciting new character to package it with, and IMO Nova can be that guy.
I guess if they nail the casting and the character is subtly but significantly more compelling than the comic version, it could very well be Cyclops.
Let the creatives steer, man. That’s how you reached greater, more profitable waters than you could have predicted the first time. Let that happen again. Can’t bake the same cake multiple ways.
The only confusion I have is after secret wars, which universe is MCU going to focus on? Fantastic Four’s universe only has shown F4 as the superheroes. Fox universe has shown a ton of mutants and X-Men/Brotherhood members in which a lot of story potential can build upon.
Current Earth 616 universe, I only see a few superheroes who can potentially lead like Spider-Man, since our current Captain America and the “New Avengers” team is not really popular and well-liked/accepted among audiences (which explains the poor box office results). If X-Men are going to be established in the Earth 616 universe, it’s possibly that the young mutants are going to be established with the rumour that Sadie Sink is Jean Grey.
That probably isn’t going to happen based on what Kevin Feige has said in interviews.
>the rumour that Sadie Sink is Jean Grey.
That’s not a rumor but speculation.
The entire allegory of the X-Men relies on the fact that humans irrationally hate them. Do you know what would help eliminate mutant hatred better than almost anything else? Captain-fucking-America coming out and standing alongside them. With tons of well-respected heroes in the comics, none ever really come out to publicly endorse the X-Men and stand for mutant rights. In the MCU, even post-Endgame, you could scrounge up enough hero-gravitas to counteract the the anti-mutant sentiment that the X-Men stories *need*. That means you heavily kneecap X-Men plots if you make them front and center and take the sensible approach of having The Avengers (both versions) be vocal allies.
This segregation gets explained as mutants wanting to take care of mutant-related matters to show that the X-Men and the casual mutant aren't a threat to humanity. It's a "we police our own" policy, except they have villains who can EMP the planet and otherwise destroy time. Soooo, your mileage may vary on that. But that asinine excuse is necessary for the purpose of writing stories.
If you keep the number of mutants in the world very small, then you can better keep them in their own little pocket and justify anti-mutant sentiment. Mutants became too widespread in the comics, so Marvel had to House of M them into an endangered species. At that point, Cyclops did take a very prominent role in protecting the remaining mutants but also kind of isolated them more in the process. His stance became "Fuck off. Don't ask me for help. I'm protecting my people, and that's it."
TLDR: Once mutants get integrated in the MCU, there are either too many that they shouldn't be hated, losing a lot of their great stories in the process, or there are so few that Cyclops will only eye-punch threats that come after mutants specifically. Neither puts him as a role to carry the MCU.
Spoiler!
Similar to what they did in X-Men 97 have the Avengers as cameos.
At his best he's a Captain America type, leader, tactician and strategist.
1. X-Men is the one film they are going to focus on immediately
2. Blade because they are going to start properly exploring the supernatural. I believe it will definitely get made, even if Blade gets recasted
In terms of existing heroes/groups they will prioritise
1. Doctor Strange
2. Spider-Man
3. Black Panther
4. Fantastic Four
5. Shang Chi
For the first three, they are the heroes that do phenomenally at the box office. Fantastic Four is an iconic group and did okay at the box office. Shang Chi is one of the few post-Endgame heroes that people rave about and constantly demand a sequel for, Marvel will listen and start pushing him massively post-Secret Wars.
Give the character the respect he deserves on screen for once
* She's a link between Avengers, Mutants, younger heroes, galactic/magic heroes, and street level folks.
* People seem to like Iman personally and thinks she brings something relatable to the MCU as a weird superfan
* She's young enough that she won't be in her 50s in a few years like a lot of the crowd
Marvel Zombies was a good test run where she was just kind of there as an audience POV - there were issues with the series but Ms. Marvel/Iman are generally considered a high point.
But if he can’t carry a solo book, he probably can’t carry the MCU.
But never say never, who would have through GotG would have been a major MCU pillar?
Make them the two stars of the series like Iron Man and Captain America. Friends who don’t really get along, so we can have a lot of good storylines about their opposing views on how to run the team
I'd quite like to see street level take off again
Spiderman (street level stuff)
Fantastic 4 (cosmic stuff)
Dr Strange (occult mystical stuff)