Bucky Barnes role in the upcoming movies

What do you think will happen to Bucky, and if he/Sebastian Stan were to leave the MCU how would you want it to go?

Personally I feel like he's gonna be regulated to support character again and die. But I would love to see him have a full all out badass moment before he goes.

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kneeco282025-12-02 19:59

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King_Arius2025-12-02 20:10

IDK about Hydra Cap, but assume it's Cap but with the morals and of the Winter Soldier. If so, yeah, I can see Bucky getting his has whooped

SeekerVash2025-12-02 22:29

They aren't doing that, at Doomsday's budget, that would be guaranteed to move it into a flop.

They need every person to want to see the movie, and turning fan-favorite Steve Rogers into a Nazi is going to move it deep into the culture war and chop off a major percentage of ticket sales.

Immediate_Channel3932025-12-02 20:03

Bucky will be there till the end of the line. Sebastian Stan is getting bigger outside the MCU so he might decide to leave and go on to other roles. Or he'll find a way to balance both.

bpdish852025-12-02 20:39

He *loves* playing Bucky. As long as they still want him and have stuff to do with that character, I'm pretty sure he'll stick around.

silverBruise_322025-12-02 22:32

But they don't have stuff do with the character, and they don't seem to want him around much. Even Stan is aware of it. Compare his earlier interviews to the Thunderbolts press tour, and he also recently gave an interview indicating that his time in the MCU is all but over.

TheW1nd942025-12-03 22:10

Sebastian Stan likes working for Marvel because it pays well and it allows him to do more underground stuff while maintaining a lifestyle of luxury. He said so as much. I don’t think anyone would willingly leave Marvel for any other reason that burnouts (like Chris Evans), and considering he’s not really playing a main character and doesn’t have that much screen time, I don’t think burnout is an issue.

radroamingromanian2025-12-02 20:07

Sebastian Stan seems to want out of the mcu and has talked about being frustrated with what’s been done with Bucky.
He’s also been talking about Marvel in the past tense.

King_Arius2025-12-02 20:10

I'm not going to disagree with him. Look how he was in WS vs Thunderbolts.

radroamingromanian2025-12-03 00:23

Yeah, Sebastian has definitely hinted that he was unhappy how Bucky was treated. He was treated as an idiot half the time.

Equivalent-Garlic1002025-12-03 01:12

Thunderbolts did a lot of damage to Bucky's characters. It was incredibly regressive. His cameo in Brave New World established that he was in charge of his own life, trying a new way to fight the good fight, and was supportive of his new best friend.

Thunderbolts threw all that away. It made him seem incredibly unintelligent and blundering, made him stab his best friend in the back by not defending Sam when the Thunderbolts all were insulting him in the post credit scene. And by being complicit in Val's 'New Avengers' crap and allowing her, the villain, to get away with everything, he has regressed into being an Asset again.

I honestly don't understand how anyone who likes Bucky could've enjoyed that movie.

kulitchipon2025-12-03 01:32

I find it so weird that people seem to think he NEEDS to defend Sam from the Thunderbolts. Idk.

And to be fair, we have no idea if Val is still around to manipulate/handle the team during the 14 months.

Equivalent-Garlic1002025-12-03 01:41

I didn't say he NEEDS to. I just think it makes him a shitty friend not to. If i was around a group of people I didnt even like very much (like Walker and Alexei in particular) and they started insulting a close friend of mine and i just sat there and said nothing, not even warning 'Hey cut it out!' or a glare at bare minimum, then yeah that would make me a shitty friend too.

Not to mention, that this friend in a moment of vulnerability suggests that they're going to restart the Avengers, to then have Bucky backstab him and join a team of bought and paid for mercenairies backed by the director of CIA (who Bucky was trying to impeach), and steal the name that means more to Sam (and actual Avenger) than any of those criminals yeah makes Bucky a Terrible Shitty Friend.

kulitchipon2025-12-03 01:42

I mean isn't suing a group your best friend is in kind of a shitty thing too?

Equivalent-Garlic1002025-12-03 01:54

Filing the trademark (something that should already really belong to the Stark estate in reality) is not suing. People throwing that phrase out there when that's not what would be actually happening.

And no, even if that was the case, Sam's completely in the right. To protect the legacy of his friends and the team that he was actually a part offrom being hijacked by someone as provably corrupt and Valentina, and as awful as Walker, who already tarnished the legacy and name of Cap.

Especially after Bucky gave Sam so much grief in TFATWS for retiring the shield, does Bucky really think he's entitled to the Avengers name over Sam - the actual Avenger? Don't be ridiculous

Expensive-Trip-18582025-12-03 10:35

Not only that, but it’s also weird having him on a government-controlled team after the events of Civil War. Just terrible characterization for an entire movie.

Equivalent-Garlic1002025-12-03 11:38

I agree. Add into that staying on that team for fourteen months! What's wild is that in the movie itself Bucky didnt even have a single line of dialogue with half the team, outside of addressing the group. It's bad lazy writing to suggest he's connected at all to these people in any way to bother sticking around.

I don't understand why mcu fans want to bat for this team and movie. The public IN the MCU don't take them seriously. They're biggest achievement outside of the group hug was flipping a piece of concrete (with no one underneath. Seriously go back and watch the scene. That civilian is long gone and they still think they need to flip it over. Three supersoldiers). It's just such a dumb movie

TheW1nd942025-12-03 22:05

>join a team of bought and paid for mercenairies backed by the director of CIA (who Bucky was trying to impeach),

It absolutely makes sense for Bucky to join a team of people with a dark past and resonate with them more than with other characters. All things considered.

Equivalent-Garlic1002025-12-04 05:15

Not the way Thunderbolts did it. It makes no sense to work in a team funded by Valentina, or the CIA. Even leave the NA name aside, Black Panther Wakanda Forever established Valentina as a key threat who was behind attempts to destablise Wakanda during a period of vulnerability and mourning. She outright said she 'dreamed' of what the USA would do if they got their hands on vibranium. It is therefore unconscionable and extremely out of character for Bucky to allow Valentina to get away with that, to remain free and with the ability to wiggle out of justice considering everything that Wakanda and Shuri specifically did for him. (Especially considering that the chain of events started by Val led to Shuri's mother being killed in an avoidable conflict.)

Bucky helping people atone for their crimes only works so long as they are not continuing to be perpetrators of crime by shilling for the CIA (and doing god awful cringy PR photoshoots and brand endorsements wtf).

As it stands the 'New Avengers' are nothing more than propagandist patsys.

TheW1nd942025-12-04 07:17

You do understand they don’t work for Valentina because they like her, yeah? They work for her because this way, they can control her and keep her in check. That’s why Yelena told her “we own you now” at the end of the movie.

Equivalent-Garlic1002025-12-04 07:27

You can't seriously believe that Yelena's line "We own you now" holds ANY weight at all? 🤣😂 Blackmail only works provided you are willing use it, and if the Thunderbolts now provide evidence of Valentina's crimes, they have actually made themselves complicit. They are guilty of 'aiding and abetting after the fact'. To have knowledge of crimes committed (some they committed for her), and to have witnessed others (which they did via their pitiful fight with Sentry i.e. human experimentation) and not report it IMMEDIATELY makes each of them complicit and guilty of accepting bribery to remain silent. (Shiny toys, tacky uniforms and the 'watchtower'.)

And you can't seriously believe that Valentina is going to just go along with it all anyway. Nothing would stop her from wiggling her way out of anything, so long as she remains free. And the Thunderbolts can't stop her from doing anything. Especially if they're off doing missions or whatever. Who's watching Valentina while their up in their tower? No one. She completely gets away with everything. And trying to believe otherwise it's nonsensical.

That ending completely undid and undermined any redemptive theme the movie had going for it. "We own you now." Be serious dude 🤣😂🤣

ProductArizona2025-12-04 04:13

Bucky was mishandled and I'm glad people are saying it now. His character is Thunderbolts was such a shell.

Equivalent-Garlic1002025-12-04 05:16

It's crazy how much bad writing fans of this film ignore just because 'well, the motorbike scene looked cool'.

Ordinary-Chain-80472025-12-09 00:31

He did say he wants to make a Thunderbolts* sequel tho

radroamingromanian2025-12-09 01:06

Yeah that’s new. That just came out today. This post is six days ago.

Gunslinger79742025-12-13 16:56

I understand Sebastian (he seems to really like the character).

I'm also frustrated that the MCU wasted its potential.

It's better they killed him than keep messing up my boy.

metalmankam2025-12-02 20:08

Doom is mad at Steve so he'll likely brutally murder Peggy and Bucky in the most horrifying way possible in front of Steve's face

King_Arius2025-12-02 20:11

What?

metalmankam2025-12-02 20:12

What what? Doomsday the next avengers movie

King_Arius2025-12-02 20:14

I mean Doom being mad at Steve what lol.

Like is that a comic idea or your own?

metalmankam2025-12-02 20:15

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King_Arius2025-12-02 20:19

Preferably no leaks/spoilers.

This is just fan discussion.

LnStrngr2025-12-02 20:22

What if...?

King_Arius2025-12-02 20:23

IDK if you are suggesting or referencing. Only saw S1

LnStrngr2025-12-02 20:38

I'm not suggesting anything. It was more a non-response to your non-response.

King_Arius2025-12-02 20:40

Ahh. Okay.

Sorry, a wee bit drunk rn

LnStrngr2025-12-02 20:41

It's always beer-thirty somewhere!

Defiant_Wheel48882025-12-03 03:53

First, it’s horrifying; second, it won’t happen in the MCU

Tony_Rags2025-12-02 20:57

Just like Thor, I believe The Winter Soldier could be so much more in the MCU. I’m not sure why he didn’t get his own film in this saga or at least make him a central figure (he is more of a background character in Thunderbolts).
I want more from him, I really do, but if Sebastian Stan wants out, I understand. I could see them killing him off in Doomsday if Stan wants to be done, or just have him stay in politics in the background.
If he wants to keep going and those in charge give him a more important role, I’m down.

Joshawott272025-12-02 21:15

To be honest, I had him pegged as being killed off in *Thunderbolts*, but he survived.

I think an issue is that his narrative arc is done, and now he’s kind of just hanging around. It’s a shame that his senate career didn’t go well, because that could have been a decent way to just peacefully write him out.

CaptHayfever2025-12-02 21:21

House, not senate. He only represents one district in Brooklyn.

Joshawott272025-12-02 21:22

Gotcha. As a non-American, I often get the two confused. Either way, he doesn’t do either any more…

Syndana232025-12-03 02:22

Are there any other storylines with Bucky in the comics? Feels like they could be doing way more with him in the MCU especially with Sam Wilson as Cap

Expensive-Trip-18582025-12-03 10:40

There are but most of his main comic arcs were completely skipped, like Natasha, Bucky Cap, and perhaps Thunderbolts now, stuff that are essential for his stories, connections and personality. They strayed so far from his comic counterpart that adapting anything newer just feels off, imo.

silverBruise_322025-12-02 21:32

I think he's out in Doomsday. Stan was only on set for a few weeks, which says a lot about how big his role was, and he recently gave an interview indicating that the Marvel chapter of his career is done. There's no way he's anything more than a supporting character in Doomsday. Heck, he probably gets offed by Doom to establish the "stakes" in the movie.

It makes sense, though. There's nothing left to do with the character. His recovery, such as it was, is done - mostly off-screen. He's just kind of around now, with no direction, and no real achievement to his name. At this point, the how doesn't matter so much. His story was already crap. What difference does it make if he gets a badass moment before he goes?

King_Arius2025-12-02 22:12

I actually liked his story.

It makes a difference if they kill him off like some unnamed character would be vs. giving him a moment of final glory in which he actually does something to the bad guy - another "last stand against sentry" moment would be a complete joke, and another Disney/Marvel flop of a character.

silverBruise_322025-12-02 22:15

I didn't. It was victim-blaming crap, and it was largely off-screen that served to make him Sam's sidekick. What is there to like?

After being in the background for so long, and doing nothing, one final moment od glory would be adding insult to injury.

I'm just ready for the whole thing to end

ipostatrandom2025-12-02 23:04

Can you explain in what way you felt it was victim-blaming?

silverBruise_322025-12-02 23:09

The show implied that Bucky was a willing member of HYDRA. A lot of characters (e.g. Isaiah Bradley, an inarguably sympathetic character) claim he was there willingly, and Bucky never really gets to refute that.

There's also the matter of him being held accountable for the Winter Soldier's crimes. Earlier projects shiw him as a victim of brainwashing and torture. Yet his therapist and Sam both argue that it's not about what he went through, but about confessing his crimes and trying to make amends. It's not clear how that's supposed to work, but it does, because Sam can never be wrong, as far as the show is concerned.

ipostatrandom2025-12-02 23:20

Iirc, it was more about Bucky feeling guilty about his HYDRA days regardless of him doing it unwillingly and he had to make amends to assuage that guilt.

FATWS' writing is clumsy though, I'll give you that.

silverBruise_322025-12-02 23:28

But that's the issue. The show argues that he is actually guilty, and confessing is what actually helps him. It's not about him. Nobody states that he actually isn't guilty.

Think about *Hawkeye*, and how much sympathy Clint got from Kate for something that he actually chose to do. Does anybody in TFATWS stand up for Bucky to a remotely similar extent?

>ATWS' writing is clumsy though, I'll give you that.

On that, we can definitely agree

Pristine-Explorer-792025-12-03 18:01

If it was only Bucky feeling the guilt, which it should have been, there would have been enough scenes to emphasize on how he was not the culprit, especially from Sam. One of the main themes of the show was Bucky dealing with his trauma, which the show spent quite often on encouraging or adding on to his guilt, rather than showing any sympathy.

ipostatrandom2025-12-03 18:12

A lot of things about FATWS should have been written differently to have their intended messages land.

Pristine-Explorer-792025-12-04 19:27

Agreed, it was overall badly written and not just for Bucky. Although it feels so off track with respect to Bucky, that it's hard to see it just as incompetence and not intentional. It emphasized quite a lot on his responsibility and never on his trauma, that too in a show.

Flashy-Telephone32012025-12-03 02:07

I love bucky, hes probably my favorite character other than Thor left. I tgink they could still do a lot with his character. For one he should take up the captian America mantle. Sam wilson sucks, he should just be falcon and a sidekick

silverBruise_322025-12-03 08:36

At this point, that wouldn't mean much. As far as Marvel is concerned, he's hit all the main "bullet points" in his journey - he's recovered, he was recognized as a hero, and now he's mentoring others.

Was any of this done well? Hell, no, but it's done, and Feige gives himself points for that. There's nothing left to do

Business_Barber_36112025-12-04 10:28

Sam rent free in your mind. Average salty bucky fan

mattsmithreddit2025-12-02 22:14

They'd probably just retire the character. In the comics he's not a super important character outside of Steve.

Equivalent-Garlic1002025-12-03 01:16

This is the thing. People complain that he's always in a supporting role, but he's literally a supporting character. There's not enough juice to carry a movie or trilogy alone. It's only the people who fixate on his hydra past that want that, but what would that be? Endless flashbacks of torture and trauma? Yaaaay. That's a fun family time at the cinema.

kulitchipon2025-12-03 01:30

I see him surviving until Secret Wars at least, but after that, who knows.

beekeeper_atlamont2025-12-03 08:02

People have been saying Bucky is going to die since Endgame. And before Endgame, people kept saying it about Steve as early as The Winter Soldier.

I don't get it.

SpeedBlitzX2025-12-03 13:37

Could be neat to see him in a spinoff where he's helping the Wakandans more as the white wolf.

Since it seemed like they could've gone that direction in Falcon and Winter Soldier.

But i guess theres a few different routes he could end up doing.

Soulwarfare422025-12-03 13:43

Bucky has already gotten his big character arc. Going from brainwashed assassin, to recovering but living with guilt, to finally accepting a role as an hero and an avenger

The reality is that there isn't much direction left for his character. Plus Sebastian has already been in the role for 15+ years already. There are really a couple possibilities left:

1. He dies in Doomsday. His death would be meaningful for Sam and Yelena to finally work together

2. He retires after Secret Wars similar to Steve and peacefully

I honestly don't see much things for him to do post-Secret Wars or any relevance to keeping him around

TheW1nd942025-12-03 22:01

They handled him terribly so far, so idk, but I’d love to see him becoming a leader, or at least a mentor figure for the New Avengers.

silverBruise_322025-12-05 09:43

He already is an advisor/mentor figure to Yelena. He'll never be a leader

Tortoiseshell202025-12-04 15:21

What would be pretty cool (in my opinion) is if they used him as the white wolf. Have him help shuri protect wakanda and then being a mentor to T'challas son (to help him become the next Black Panther).

King_Arius2025-12-05 01:07

That would be a good final touch to his story.