People complaining about the lack of variety of powers in the Thunderbolts just shows that the average MCU viewer didn't understand the point of the movie
I have no idea why the very obvious themes and direct metaphors in this movie escape the average MCU viewer on this website. I see better media literacy from people on tiktok fandoms than on here.
They all have pretty much the same powers, being none. But that's not a drawback of the film. While the MCU has tackled mental health storylines with superheroed characters, very well storylines at that, everyone on the team being pretty much just normal helps us relate even more to the whole team because they're all just like .. people. even Ava, the character with the only "real" superpower, has hers treated as more of a chronic illness. this comparison is even exemplified by the fact the movie doesn't focus on her power, and has her talking about the drawbacks of it pretty much the whole movie.
Like if say, one of them could fly, another had laser eyes, another was a hulk monster, that'd be more cinematic, sure, but then we'd see them less as individuals and more as just generic superhero action stars.
the movie itself is set up in a way where this isnt an issue at all. there's only a handful of fight scenes, and the final fight isn't even really a fight. its one HUGE metaphor for the various symptoms of bipolar depression and the movie ends with Bob finally getting a support system he never had.
another thing ive noticed about discussions around this movie is people say the most outlandish characters should have been in this movie. from moon knight, to red hulk, to baron zemo for some reason? but tbh this is just another sign of people not wanting the whole mental illness and loneliness messages this movie gets across and wanting just another action movie about a band of misfits. and to those people i say... just go watch suicide squad or guardians 1 lol? the movie yall want already exists, both directed by the single greatest comic book movie director of all time.
tangent specifically about moon knight, he's one of my favorite comic book characters in general but i will never understand why people say he should be in this movie. if we were to just drop him into the film, with the way it's set up right now, he would add literally nothing. his show ends with marc and steven ending up in a good place mentally, and people often mis-identify bob's problems as DID like moon knight as proof moon knight would work here, but as we all know bob doesn't have DID. so he can't fit him in there either...
tldr; go watch the suicide squad
They all have pretty much the same powers, being none. But that's not a drawback of the film. While the MCU has tackled mental health storylines with superheroed characters, very well storylines at that, everyone on the team being pretty much just normal helps us relate even more to the whole team because they're all just like .. people. even Ava, the character with the only "real" superpower, has hers treated as more of a chronic illness. this comparison is even exemplified by the fact the movie doesn't focus on her power, and has her talking about the drawbacks of it pretty much the whole movie.
Like if say, one of them could fly, another had laser eyes, another was a hulk monster, that'd be more cinematic, sure, but then we'd see them less as individuals and more as just generic superhero action stars.
the movie itself is set up in a way where this isnt an issue at all. there's only a handful of fight scenes, and the final fight isn't even really a fight. its one HUGE metaphor for the various symptoms of bipolar depression and the movie ends with Bob finally getting a support system he never had.
another thing ive noticed about discussions around this movie is people say the most outlandish characters should have been in this movie. from moon knight, to red hulk, to baron zemo for some reason? but tbh this is just another sign of people not wanting the whole mental illness and loneliness messages this movie gets across and wanting just another action movie about a band of misfits. and to those people i say... just go watch suicide squad or guardians 1 lol? the movie yall want already exists, both directed by the single greatest comic book movie director of all time.
tangent specifically about moon knight, he's one of my favorite comic book characters in general but i will never understand why people say he should be in this movie. if we were to just drop him into the film, with the way it's set up right now, he would add literally nothing. his show ends with marc and steven ending up in a good place mentally, and people often mis-identify bob's problems as DID like moon knight as proof moon knight would work here, but as we all know bob doesn't have DID. so he can't fit him in there either...
tldr; go watch the suicide squad
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Good job on your word for word writeup of someone else's AI generated TikTok video, though.
I’m not a comic book guy, and I loved this movie so much. I know where this “Red Hulk, Moon Knight, Zemo, et. al. should have been there” criticism comes from.
to me the team is thunderbolts in name only, which i don't mind at all.
i already don't care much for the comic thunderbolts anyways. i haven't read too much of their stuff but it's not a side of marvel i would consider my favorite.
Watching other people's fake trauma, and having Reddit go on and on about how "realistic" it is, is hilarious.
Only Reddit would find group therapy "deep".
All it takes if for the public to see a golden superman in action, for them to be the Avengers team. After all, OXE marketing research made him to have the potential to be the most public appealing hero.
Sentry is literally one man Avenger team.
Bucky and John are pretty charismatic but in their own way.
Bucky I agree 100%
John while I see what you mean, I just personally don't find him likeable at all, I wasn't on board in the first place but after the flashback to his family life I just can't stand him being "an avenger".
If you enjoy the new team don't let guys like me spoil the fun, there's certainly good stuff ahead, I just wish they didn't kill/toss people's favorite characters like that.
tldr; just enjoy film. people like zemo will keep finding mistakes. as he said
The Thunderbolts movie has been criticized for a perceived lack of variety in its team's powers, as many members rely on enhanced strength, skilled combat, or advanced weaponry rather than more diverse abilities like flight or energy projection. This led to the team being compared to the "B-Vengers" or a less powerful group. Marvel acknowledged this by including a scene where the team members themselves joke about their lack of diverse powers, specifically noting that "no one on the team can fly" and that they "all just punch and shoot"
Would be like going to see a Michael Bay moving and getting Gone With the Wind :p
Just reply to that one guy.
There, go back to arguing about some perceived ignorance on the part of the average marvel viewer.
It was a decent movie, but I see superhero movies for the superhero spectacle.