What would Tony think of Riri if he survived after endgame?
I think he would be proud of her as being her own hero and not trying to be like him as in style or personality and similar to peter being better and becoming herself as a new hero in a new world among many others.
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He hopes Peter can be better than him
He’d fear Riri could be just as bad as him
Riri is a brilliant person like him to a fault. She is approaching Dr Doom levels. Where her genius isn't controlled by a morality. Riri is controlled by her trauma like Victor us. I imagine that is why Rdj's Tony becomes a variant Dr Doom. He continues on the Ultron path.
I think, dispositionally, they'd also get along. A lot of snark and flouting of convention between the two of them.
Like you’re trying to mask it by saying you do like her, but it’s obviously a facade
They’ve very intentionally made the characters similar. She named herself after him god sake, yes they’re very similar
Both charismatic go getters, both do what they want despite negative outside influence/pressure, both can build an impossible mech suit from some bullshit they they should not be able to build from
Mind you, Marvel created both these characters with the INTENT of them being similar. You’re just tweaking
In *Iron Man 3*, Tony never did anything reckless like her. He was hunting enemies who were targeting high-profile people.
Like I said, I don't remember much of IM3. If he was doing that type of stuff though, he was a much bigger piece of trash than I remember.
He'd probably try to mentor her and help her out, because he's already learned being dismissive won't work, she will go behind his back anyway. Would she accept his help? Probably, maybe she wants to prove herself not to be dependant on him... There's a lot of options here. But the relationship would always be kinda unstable by their personalities (and Tony reading her like a book).
His growth was because of the ppl around him.
Probably give some tips on her armor based on video feedback after the second Wakanda movie and maybe keep an eye on her. Since that kind of tech can be destructive based on his experience. I think Riri wouldn't be in a position where she was desperate enough to work and steal if Tony paid attention. I imagine he'll get updates and such. Since he made many mistakes before too. I imagine having a daughter might have changed his perspective a bit. Kinder and having a parental kind of empathy. That's just me wishing for the best though.
I could also see him withholding help and approval purposefully, knowing that similar to him, she’s at her most inventive and driven when she has a chip on her shoulder and is trying to prove something. But privately he’d be very impressed, proud, and see a real successor in terms of technological innovation.
From her choices in the part of the show I've seen so far, I think he'd be disappointed she wasting her talents on criminality instead of staying focused on her dream of support technologies for first responders. She could literally make far more money for some kind of lab making out and refining designs while she works on her power armor privately. Hell her power storage technology alone and the high efficiency solar and wind turbines could revolutionize the energy landscape for private vehicles. That alone is worth Billions literally. and instead she's getting nickles to rob people. Shes a moron. which is why I stopped watching the show.
He may have also help direct her to get the counseling he would never get for himself for her PTSD which is causing her to spiral bad even years after the fact. I think he could recognize the impact of traumatic events and thinking youre the only person who can fix them and making questionable choices. She may even be willing to listen to him because he's still more knowledgeable than her
Honestly I'm sad Tony never got to hang out with Shuri and Eitri the dwarf to have all three of them learn even more technologies from each other. And Uru-vibranium nanatech power armor would have been fantastic.
Tony would show alot of empathy because she shares alot of his traits.
He'd give her flak and one or two heartfelt sit downs about the choices she's making.
And he'd also recruit her - but also balance truly recruiting her for the field, vs. curating a lab for her and other geniuses to truly change the world - and get away from all the combat-only scenarios that, at this point, has given him so much PTSD.
I imagine it would quickly segue with Wakanda, in the way we saw T'Challa doing at the end of BP1.
Absolutely DELUSIONAL comments.
I didn't watch Ironheart, but from what I've heard of it, I don't think that would be the case in the MCU.
Hell yeah
I think the best part of Riri’s story is that she’s Tony without privilege and thus has to
“Sell her soul to the devil”’
Comics Tony wouldn’t bat an eye at some wannabe genius from the streets. He’d treat her as competition and discredit her in every possible way. Because he’d see her as a threat.
She’d be a sassier version of his relationship with Spiderman and he’d go to war for her much like how he’d protect Peter. I would’ve loved to see it on screen to be honest.
Recognised her intellect sure, but I doubt he wouldve seen anything in her character like he did with Peter or Rhodey to let her carry on with his tech
> Tony spent a good deal of time trying to keep his tech out of the hands of those he didnt know or trust. **Riri would be no different**...
When I say 'Riri would be no different' I mean Tony's reaction to Riri would be no different. He doesnt know her, nor would he trust her.
I certainly didnt mean it like Riri would act no different to Tony.
...before becoming Iron Man and changing his ways
> ...and created Ultron
...to use himself, to protect the world, not to be handed off to those he didn't trust
> She literally had a scholarship from him...
...along with hundreds of other students that Tony didnt know personally or hand picked
> ...to build suits.
...to create technology, not specifically to copy his suits that he was very much against other people having. No time is it shown that Tony wanted the MIT students to build suits
2- doesn't change the main point.
3'it wasn't a secret what Riri was doing. He could've explicitly banned it. Even in the comics, she is allowed to use suits but under certain conditions. MCU Peter basically is a stand in for her Tony arc.
Was her suit not secret before Wakanda Forever? Didnt she make it in her own secret garage whilst making other stuff at university?
Besides if you look at the timeline, Tony announces the grant in Civil War which is 2016, the snap happens in 2018 and then Tony pretty much retreats from his previous life, Riri doesnt get admitted to MIT until sometime around 2020 or later, and Tony dies several years before Wakanda Forever.
So really there is no real evidence that he would know about her Iron Man suits or that he's cool with it.
Would he have kept an eye on what the MIT students are doing with his money? Yeah thats possible. Would he have explicitly banned those students from copying his work? Possibly, but considering how rare it is for anyone to get anywhere near the level needed to create a suit like his, he probably didnt really consider it.
Besides he's not one of their teachers, he isnt in charge of looking after what they make, he's just funding them. MIT students are still under the eye of MIT and I'm guessing they still have rules and regulations to work under, like 'dont make bombs' or what not.
You are making alot of excuses for his past. He did alot worse than her. She is not comparable to Justin Hammer. That is a stretch.
Tony would be disappointed in her
He once said "if you're nothing without a suit you shouldn't have it"
And here we have Riri stealing and endangering people to upgrade a suit instead of getting a job a
Ironheart is a super-genius but goes about doing things in the worst way for herself. Her ego is her biggest enemy, and Tony would be the one constantly seeing that flaw and trying to help her with it.
Whether or not she'll listen is up to her.