I'm sad that these 4 gets a lot of unnecessary hate for so many stupid and idiotically reasons, but their not bad at all, there may been in a messed up and convoluted Phases, i personally love mostly all of them.
The nonsense towards these 4 is really dumb and stupid, these 4 are great characters, with their strength and weakness and their development has been good, but needs to be improve, but their great and powerful too. We need more of them, before Dr doom comes into town and wrecks a joint.
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Ah yes now it makes sense
Secret Invasion is non-existent as far as I’m concerned
(Brie Larson for example receiving hate (she did))
EDIT: I am the dumb and didn't realize it was Falcon/Cap, of course I know and love him
Unfortunately Brie Larson had to deal with pretty terrible writing for her character (comic C M suffers from it a lot too)
Don't have much of an opinion on Sharon really, but definitely don't hate her
Larson is a decent actor, but the writing and directing really was terrible for her character.
Agreed on Larson, she could definitely have pulled it off if the direction and writing had been better. I think she was pretty good in her latest film, although definitely overshadowed by Kamala
Otherwise I guess she just became a criminal mastermind in like 5 years overseas lol
I didn't hate that Sharon was revealed to be the Power Broker at the end of TFATWS - but i do dislike that the subsequent films (especially Cap 4 and Thunderbolts) didn't pick up on that thread. Sharon as Power Broker and Val engineering superheroes and President Ross hiding his own superhuman risk calculator?? There was a coherent and interesting story there, of what do we do when people in political power are corrupt and only interested in protecting their profits. And Disney decided to drop it. It's not like it's not relevant to the world today.
Nothing against the actress, Emily van camp is fucking great.
Also didn’t like the direction of the She-Hulk series in some parts but thought the meta aspects were pretty funny.
To be fair Marvel spent $225M making the first season. That’s about the same budget as the first Avengers movie, and $75M *more* than Moonknight or Loki S1.
Gotta respectfully disagree, if they couldn’t get it done with the budget they already had, throwing more money in the pit wouldn’t have meaningfully solved anything. They gave this show more than enough resources to succeed
I also like her in Osgood Perkins movies like The Monkey and Keeper, & she was great in a drama with Jake Gyllenhaal from 2017 called Stronger
In a lot of ways, the show was a lot of fun, but the legal shit was complete nonsense so something that was a draw to a lot of people was kind of a complete let down.
Overall, though really fun show, it was really hard for me to suspend disbelief that Jen couldn’t get any matches on Tinder.
I agree about the other 3, though
She can broker between many groups; 10 Rings, Hammer Industries, street level villains (Kingpin? Hell even a story about the Punisher robbing her and she gets away), who was that auction group in Hawkeye?
Edit: 10 upvotes? You're awesome. I dont know who you are. But if I did. I would hug you.
And Sharon could have been a great character but Marvel fucked up by turning her into a villainess arms dealer
They really didn't show falcon becoming cap during the movie either. Bucky had more connections and it makes the audience feel like it wasn't built up.
That being said I still like the character. Just wish they did a better job
Online reception is ignorant and pointedly populist without merit. You can’t betray the message of your universe and also respond to the most toxic online criticism and maintain integrity and vision.
I liked Falcon, mixing that with Captain America was just messy. Still enjoyed Captain America 4. But this character's future outside Avenger movies is very limited after his movie did so poorly.
Captain Movie was generally accepted to be not good movie. I've never seen it, but enjoyed The Marvels, its how I found out Bree Larson can sing.
The actors did their best with the lines they were given.
Having his own show did develop him more…just not very well (The writers did him no favors with that speech).
He should’ve had cameos or supporting roles in other projects before Brave New World to show what he has been up to for his first few years as Cap, but of course that didn’t happen.
I’d also argue Brand New World should’ve been about Sam actually *leading* his own New Avengers. The story would still largely revolve his character growth, but it would’ve been nice to have a relatively “low stakes” adventure with Sam, Joaquin, Shang Chi, and one or two other heroes before whatever happens in Doomsday.
The other two were never compelling in the first place. Burnt most of their goodwill by being annoying. It mostly sucks that there became characters that are unlikable in the MCU.
I once stumbled upon a vid claiming she said Marvel needs more women, movies with women are the only good ones, how she refused to work with certain male actors, you can imagine the rest of the claims.
I took upon Google to verify these claims and literally not even a single thing came even close to anything she has ever said.
Since nobody can think for themselves these days due to ChatGPT, everyone in the comments joined in on the hate. Maybe a handful of people questioning it.
It's such a wild thing to see unfold. Just people putting lies out there with the sole purpose of bringing someone down.
If it was well written and done well? It would be universially loved like everything else.
But like the other 3 in that collage, it is not up to snuff.
I actually WANT a follow-up regarding Sharon. (I could see Bucky telling her that Peggy would be ashamed at what she's become).
She-Hulk, I could take or leave. (Though the twerking with Megan Thee Stalliion was kinda cringey).
I actually liked "The Marvels" and thought Kamala fan-girling over her was fun (though I think Carol should've been the one to sacrifice herself in the other dimension to atone for her previous mistakes).
Captain marvel is fine. A little generic and I don’t love them trying to make characters big in a universe by just making them more powerful.
I never saw she hulk. What clips i did centered on her being a girl boss and gender conflict stuff with hulk, which I have no interest in. I know that’s not a fair representation on the show and might not be accurate, but maybe that’s part of why others have the impression of it they do. There’s so much mcu content now (a lot of it subpar), so I’m not necessarily going to watch all of it anymore. it actually has to look interesting and everything I saw looked unappealing.
I like Sharon fine. Don’t get the hate if there is hate. The only potential criticism of her is that she was a very small part and the movies would have been basically the same without her. I still liked her inclusion though. Don’t need to see more of her though
She Hulk was horrible and a waste of money and time with no direction. The actual character was fun and I want to see her again.
Captain America and the Winter soldier should have been the first Sam Wilson movie and BNW sucks and is a terrible mess that should be forgotten.
No clue why the top right person gets hate but she was whatever. Don’t even remember her name but I’ve never seen hate for her
It was the most slice of life we ever got out of the MCU. Best we had before this were those shorts Chris Hemsworth filmed about Thor not being invited to Civil War and having an exhausted roommate. While it wasn't touching on the characters that the fandom really wanted to see the day to day lives of, it did deal with the consequences of things the MCU threw out there for fun.
For example, the random cage match in Shang Chi where Wong was fighting Abomination and it was never explained how any of that happened. She-Hulk brought back an actor over a decade later to play his more mature self, explained what he did, and rectified that the events in the original Hulk weren't his fault. Turned him into a surprisingly relatable character.
I liked every moment Wong was in- I feel like they did kind of start to get sensitive about Wong being a fan favorite in another character's show, but it was all great. I also liked Frog Man and the small implications about normal Asgardians finding life on earth after the events of Thor Ragnarok.
I feel like the MCU never gave itself time to breathe and tell small stories, and She-Hulk was a consequence of those small stories building up in the background. Shame they had to use expensive CGI for it or it could have kept going for longer.
(to be clear this has nothing to do with the actress)
Never heard hate about Sharron either but I can see it I guess. Not a huge fan of where they took her character because I just want Peggy's ancestor to be a "good guy" but it is interesting.
I wasn't a huge fan of She-Hulk's show, I don't think the 4th wall breaks play as well as Deadpool but I like the actress in the role and hope she reprises it.
Captain Marvel is played well by Brie IMO. I really didn't like her movie though, it was by no means bad, it just didn't feel like it had the same impact as other origin stories in the franchise. I liked The Marvels a lot though and felt like that really made me like the character. She was obviously cool in Endgame too even though her role didn't involve that much acting.
Sure, there were some issues. Years of power and skills development skipped through a preachy “I do this better than you” speech. (Blaming Banner’s slower pace on his own history of trauma and mental illness would have been both more interesting and more comic accurate, but probably not consistent with the office comedy vibe that they were going for.) The series finale was a major letdown, and I thought the treatment of Daredevil was borderline sacrilegious. But all in all, a solid first season.
The others are good performers in horribly flawed and poorly written shows and movies. They could have all done so much more.
[I am really glad that the OP left out any pictures from Secret Invasion. I’m trying to pretend that never existed.]
Sam though...to me he's just a personality black hole - he was terrible in Altered Carbon and just doesn't cut the mustard as Cap!
EDIT - sorry, I really didn't recognize the photo - is #4 supposed to be ***Tatiana Maslany?***
Its always "Just watched (insert not well received MCU project) and I don't get all the hate" or "I thought this character was really well done why are so many people hating on them?". You do not care at all if these characters are hated or not you just want to have the popular post because that's what these type of posts do they get the most attention.
Brie larson says stupod shit and really isnt endearing and again isnt a lead.
Sharon meh
I dont know whoe the bottom right is
Edit oh she hulk. I though it was fun, throwaway but what a crap ending.
I feel they stopped trying to make good films and just focused on making content.
Yes, comic fans will be outraged if it doesn't stick to the comics and racist will be made if its anyone other than a stright White male as the hero, but that doesn't mean the story they gave Sam Wilson, She-Hulk, Ms Marvel (I don't know who that other person is) were place holders with a show named after them, no creative backstory or character defining qualities. They were literally just shallow non-white male characters, I still can't believe they copied Lion King's whole plot when making the first Black Panther.
I'm not saying these characters or their movies have to solve world problem, but I am saying if you're making a political statement make. If you're making an entertaining movie make it. But don't mix the 2 and when they do horrible in the box office ignor all the factors that went to making the movie. You'll have fans who no longer trust your work and hate the characters.
She-Hulk is a very imperfect character who need(ed) a lot of growth but since we’re unlikely to ever see her again, it’ll probably always remain that way.
Hard agree for the other two
Also, 1) people don't like it when their faves get replaced and 2) a lot of people wanted Bucky!Cap, so it's not surprising that a lot of people were disappointed and salty about it.
Falcon is a good character, but he doesnt live up to steve rogers, Mackie is an amazing side character but an okay leading man, he has a "cool soldier" vibe, not "leader of men" vibe.
Captain marvel was very annoying in her first appearances, all the arrogance of thor and iron man none of the fall from grace due to hubris.
But ironically she was great in the marvels, it was exactly what she was missing the idea that she actually made a mistake with consequences, and she became much more relatable and humble in that move, and with the other two it just felt like a retro adventure.