I would love to know how Marvel Studios would have continued the MCU if they never decided to introduce the multiverse and all that comes with it.

I'm not really a fan of the multiverse, variants and all those things. I think they can work in comics and animated shows but for the MCU I would have loved to see them keep the realism when it comes to that aspect.

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bristenli2025-11-25 02:39

Poorly, where would the fantastic four and x-men come from if they weren’t there from the beginning of the infinity saga?

labbla2025-11-25 02:52

Fantastic Four were stuck in another dimension since the 60s and the mutants begin to emerge after the Snap is reversed.

ContentAssumption2042025-11-25 02:55

The X-Men are the only issue. The FF can just be modern day 616 scientists who gain powers in an accident after the events of Endgame. Then they can just buy Stark tower and turn it into the Baxter Building. I don't see the problem here.

Currycel78912025-11-25 03:13

The FF villains would be impossible to introduce without time travel and retcons.

ContentAssumption2042025-11-25 03:46

They've already retconned Namor, Zeus, the Eternals, Konshu, Eternity, Man-Thing, all of those monster hunter guys, and more into the universe. Why would someone like Mole Man be too far?

Doctor Doom could've risen to power in his home country during the 5 year time skip in Endgame.

No one in the MCU has traveled to the Negative Zone yet so that explains Annihilus's absence.

The galaxy is huge, so the lack of Galactus or the Impossible Man up to this point is pretty easy to explain.

Molecule Man, Red Ghost, Wizard, Puppet Master, Mad Thinker, and Diablo could've just not undergone their super villain origins yet.

Currycel78912025-11-25 04:35

These villains are longtime antagonists for the Avengers and they should've been around long ago.

Their absence during the Infinity Saga, especially the cosmic villains, is inexcusable.

Marvel was planning to introduce them at around 2010 but rights issues blocked it.

Post-endgame it was too late. The multiverse, introduced in DS1 and then compounded in 2019 with the Time Heist, made FAR more sense.

If the multiverse was to not be included at all, then DS1 should've been written differently and Endgame's Time Heist should NEVER have happened.

Endgame itself would have to be rewritten:

Either Thanos doesn't destroy the stones but instead uses them to overthrow the Cosmic pantheon and become the most powerful being in existence till he loses it, like in comics.

OR, Thanos destroys the stones and scatters their fragments throughout the universe, the heroes kill him and rebuild them to bring everyone back, then Lady Death resurrects Thanos to kill everyone this time.

ContentAssumption2042025-11-25 16:33

Why would Galactus even get involved in the events of Infinity War or Endgame? I doubt he’d notice or care that the planets he’s consuming have less people than usual. The Eternals and Namor’s existence are far more of a plot hole.

It sucks that he wasn’t there like he was in the comics, but this is like saying the Ant Man movie needed to be set in a different universe because he was absent from the formation of the Avengers in the MCU.

I’m pretty sure Marvel Studios only attempted to regain the film rights to Galactus and the Silver Surfer back in 2012 in exchange for an extension on Fox’s film rights to DD.

Endgame just created branching timelines, [which isn’t the same as a multiverse](https://youtu.be/ZBpVq2_96io?si=F--hNv7_wwvyt3Uv).

Currycel78912025-11-25 17:31

ALL universes are technically branch timelines rooted in the big bang, or in Earth's formation. Many of them have very recent PODs. **The 838 universe's PODs involve Apocalypse arriving as the first mutant, Captain Carter taking the serum, and Tony Stark making Ultron work. Without them, it is literally 616.**

Your video is literally titled "*Marvel doesn't understand how the multiverse works."* It's NOT about whether Marvel understands it or not, this is a fictional structure that THEY created, and it runs according to THEIR rules. This video just isn't relevant.

**Either way, Endgame is completely unworkable in the structure of a singular universe.** It should've been more like the comics. Thanos overthrows the cosmic entities and becomes God till he gets overthrown and then teams up with the heroes to stop a greater threat OR Thanos is killed off and then resurrected by Lady Death at the end to "shred the universe down its atom and then...create a new one...a grateful universe."

There have to multiple timelines which create parallel universes in order for the Time Heist to be justifiable. **Otherwise, changing the past WOULD change the future, and make the entire endeavor impossible.**

Antrikshy2025-11-25 03:21

Mutations could happen after a big worldwide event like the Thanos snap.

bristenli2025-11-25 03:28

I always liked that theory.

Stormik2025-11-25 08:17

How would that work with mutants who have a very important part of their story set in real life past events like Magneto?

IndominusTaco2025-11-25 08:37

at a certain point, unless they alter magneto’s backstory that includes cryofreezing him for decades, it’s unlikely his backstory will always include the holocaust. it sucks but we’re reaching a point where there’s very few holocaust survivors left

CaptHayfever2025-11-25 08:41

They did that with Namor: He was there all along, but just not publicly known.

Stormik2025-11-25 09:05

It's not the same though. Nothing contradicts Namor secret existence.

The whole idea "mutants started to appear only after an event like Thanos' snap" would however contradict Magneto's.

Divi12212025-11-25 08:13

So wolverine would just be some dude who suddenly got powers in 2018

Antrikshy2025-11-25 09:57

I’m always down for new and unique remixes of the source material.

WildFire2552025-11-25 04:09

Time Travel for the Fantastic Four and “No, MORE MUTANTS!” Wanda Maximoff cried.

Mass24242025-11-25 02:44

Should have done a proper version of Secret invasion, that went on for multiple project or set the stage for a phase-long Civil War 2. Instead of it being just one movie.

ubutterscotchpine2025-11-25 13:25

This.

Crafted_Pickaxe212025-11-25 02:44

I like the idea of making a meta explanation for why all the Fox characters were never around in the main universe.
They can bring everyone together, and then the grounded stories continue.

Antrikshy2025-11-25 03:22

It seems unlikely that the Fox versions of those characters will stick around after SW. I think it’s more of a last hurrah.

Crafted_Pickaxe212025-11-25 15:05

Ok, I do see that.
There will probably be a lot of recasting, I just was focusing on the part where the movie could potentially explain the Multiverse.

labbla2025-11-25 02:47

That would have been nice. So much less messy. You don't need the multiverse for X-Men and F4 because it's comic books, things can happen for any reason.

I think the multiverse does have storytelling possibilities. But the MCU only really wants to use it for nostalgia cameos. Spider-Verse has used it in a much more focused way. Yeah, slip in a reference here or there, but when it becomes the only reason for it being used it really feels cheap.

Currycel78912025-11-25 03:13

Like alternate pasts, retcons, and magical rewrites of reality.

labbla2025-11-25 04:53

Like I said comic books. The only limit is what the writers can think of. There aren't any real rules to this stuff.

Currycel78912025-11-25 06:58

Nah. The multiverse is a lot cleaner. They already introduced it in DS1 and then brought in alternate timelines with Endgame.

There were talks of eventual crossovers with Sony and FOX going all the way back to Civil War.

labbla2025-11-25 07:01

And I would prefer if they never did the crossovers with Sony and Fox.

sokuyari992025-11-25 02:54

I think they could’ve done little stories and period-esque pieces (like how fantastic 4 was), and not really answered the question of why they didn’t participate in infinity war. And leave smaller bread crumbs that all these are happening in other universes until they go all in on either the Kang piece or some kind of post Secret Invasion threat.

Could’ve been great

Currycel78912025-11-25 03:15

The MCU would've probably ended in 2016.

Doctor Strange 1 was when they first introduced the multiverse. If they don't do that, they stop right there.

GarySoneji2025-11-25 03:31

The same as it does now, except a handful of projects would have different stories.

Suspicious-Word-75892025-11-25 03:53

Spider-Man: NWH changes a lot. Without the multiverse, the villains can't be from the Maguire and Garfield movies. The fallout from Peter's identity being revealed still goes the same way. Some believe his innocence, some don't. JJ Jameson does think he did it, so hires villains to go after him. One of them is Kraven the Hunter, who wants to take down an Avenger and Peter is the perfect target. The other is Michael Mando's Scorpion, given a platform on Jameson's podcast to air his grievances and later acquires the suit that lets him fight Spider-Man. It would probably end with Spider-Man choosing to fake his death so that his friends aren't being targeted anymore. We see him taken away to some facility where Nick Fury tells him he made the right decision, even if it is a painful one.

hell20_2025-11-25 06:04

Isn't this the NWH plot before the multiverse stuff was incorporated? I haven't seen the B&B video on it yet but I think Kraven was in it.

Captriker2025-11-25 04:10

I do t think it was the Multiverse (full disclosure, I’m a fan) as much as it was the perfect storm of Covid, the passing of Chadwick Bosemen, and the Kang controversy. The order of the films had to be juggled with NWH coming before MoM. They had to redo their Kang strategy twice which weakened the character and then outright killed him off. Bosemen could have been the centerpiece but they had to pivot again.

Throw in some bad story choices (secret Invasion, Ant-Man 3, and others) and the whole thing fell flat.

BackgroundEngineer112025-11-25 04:34

The Multiverse is too much of a big deal in the comics for Marvel not to adapt it. Outside of that, they would have fast tracked mutants after the finalization of the Fox purchase in 2019.