Doomsday Needs To Be Age Of Ultron But Succeed

Since the movie has filmed, I can say now that Doomsday needs to be Age of Ultron, but successful to succeed.

There are a lot of similarities between the situations. New bad guy introduced and has to be fully fleshed out by the end (Thanos doesn’t reserve much more characterization after Infinity War), you have a massive cast AND you have to have them interact for the first time. Can’t have Infinity War where everyone is split up. You have a whole plot you have to develop and portray. The movies before Infinity War did it. You knew how dangerous the stones are and how necessary it is to keep even one away from the bad guys. There is no stones and there is no Avengers divided by inside problems. Infinity War split up the cast because Thanos was going around the universe getting stones.

I said this another post,logically, the Avengers should never have split up after Endgame. That’s like a police station disbanding after the commissioner dies or retires.

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BladeBoy__2025-11-24 20:55

That party scene is still gold standard MCU for me

Subject-Ad50712025-11-24 20:58

What party scene. I don’t get it.

BladeBoy__2025-11-24 21:02

The party at Stark tower after their Hydra siege. All characters get a moment to shine, the writers have fun with bits, all characters’ arcs within the universe are are elegantly updated. No suits or action, just a bunch of people written well.

Sncrsly2025-11-24 21:08

What's not to get? The scene when they are winding down after a party. The one with the hammer lifting attempts

Subject-Ad50712025-11-24 21:32

I don't remember every part of the MCU and I didn't like Age of Ultron. It wasn't bad, but because I didn't like it, I'm less likely to remember anything from it. Whole movie wasn't good. That was a dumb scene. Most heroes are unworthy anyway... What, they were supposed to be all worthy?

Sncrsly2025-11-25 00:07

No they weren't supposed to all be worthy. The fact that you would think that shows you completely missed the point of the scene

Subject-Ad50712025-11-25 03:04

There wasn’t much of a lasting point to the scene because that idea never gets carried over after that movie. That’s like Cap falling into alcoholism in Cap 2 and it not mattering after. Saying that because it would be pretty random in the long run and not a good idea. Notice how Tony Stark having metal poisoning and alcoholism matters more?

What was the point? They’re gloryhounds? Thor himself is partially a glory hound (Thor is my favorite superhero, so no criticism)

I say my point because there are so many reasons to not be worthy, that’swhy most heroes aren’t worthy.or else it would not be unique or a big achievement

Sncrsly2025-11-25 03:07

The point was to show that at least one of them besides Thor was worthy (Cap). This did have a lasting effect considering Cap uses the hammer alongside Thor in endgame. Not everything has to be mentioned repeatedly to have a lasting effect

Subject-Ad50712025-11-25 03:16

That point wasn’t easy to miss…I thought you were saying there was an important thematic reason. Why would I miss this part… if I missed this part, I’d be complaining Cap picking up Mjolnir is bad writing and again, I’m gonna say, it’s an achievement, but it’s also a who cares because so few people match the requirements. Spider-Man can’t do it and he’s really moral, in the comics. Not killing and pacifism aren’t it either, because Thor and Cap kill a lot

kneeco282025-11-24 20:55

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Subject-Ad50712025-11-24 20:58

I just said why Infinity War had the splitting up. Unless they’re gonna repeat the idea of a bad guy going all over the universe (now multiverse) to gather stuff.

Legal-Start94832025-11-24 20:57

We know from some leaks (trusted) and set photos that they will split. I see this movie like infinity war for me because at the end they will lose

Single-Pianist-22112025-11-24 21:04

It’s gonna be Infinity War not AoU. The number of confirmed characters alone makes this obvious

juances192025-11-24 21:51

You're making an unfair comparison. We have exponentially more characters now than when AoU came out. It's just not possible to manage a single team at this scale.

Maybe there could be smaller team up movies in the future but look at the cast list for Doomsday. They will split the teams for this one, they have to.