Let Fantastic Four world survive

I really want Marvel to keep Earth-828 from the new Fantastic Four movie as its own universe. The retro-futuristic vibe, the 60s tech, the tone — it feels unique, not just another multiverse flavor.

Instead of merging it into 616, I want to see what happens after Doomsday. Imagine Iron Man in his original clunky, riveted armor fighting low-level threats in a 60s-70s NY city. No nanotech. No multiverse drama. Just pure metal fighting Fing Fang Foon or comic accurate Mandarin.

I believe MCU could take two separate timelines

Any other characters that would fit there?

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Sargaron2025-11-24 19:05

Hey, I'm actually reading the Secret Wars Comics currently and I just wanted to let you know that if the movies follow suit with the same comics then every universe gets destroyed.

Significant_Silver992025-11-24 19:11

It should just stay as a FF only universe instead of putting other characters

Long_Ganache_13352025-11-24 19:12

I like that, but my other thing is Given the hypothetical scenario where the Fantastic Four team (Pascal, Kirby, Quinn, Moss-Bachrach) and their entire retro-futuristic 1960s Earth-828 reality (with unique elements including the Baxter Building, Fantasticar, ReedTech, supporting characters (Future Foundation, Mole Man) etc.) along with are consumed and reconstituted into the mainstream MCU (Earth-199999's Revised Timeline) via a Nexus Event during the Multiverse collapse after the Multiverse Saga concludes with Avengers: Secret Wars into a 616 comic-accurate Earth-199999 Revised) world.

sciencesold2025-11-24 19:27

Earth 616, 199999 is the comic universe that's identical to the MCU, but not the MCU itself.

LaylaLegion2025-11-24 19:16

If it survives, there’s no way to integrate the Fantastic Four into the MCU without them wanting to return home.

sotommy2025-11-24 19:21

They can just hop universes when needed. The world design was the best part of F4, would be a huge mistake to throw it away

LaylaLegion2025-11-24 19:24

Allowing multiversal travel would undermine the danger of multiversal incursions, the very core conflict of this phase.

sotommy2025-11-24 19:32

I don't care about all that shit. They would be stupid to leave 828 behind. If that means that they won't meet other heroes after Secret Wars, let be it

FalenAlter2025-11-24 19:33

I agree, but they could use the idea that all the smart people around figure out a safe way to travel without incursions, which is sort of what they did with time travel in Endgame.

KrakoaOmega2025-11-24 19:17

This would be optimal since they wouldn’t have to try and rework magneto’s back story. He would be super old in 2025 if he was a holocaust victim

AdultSWIMDeep2025-11-24 19:18

One of the major points of Secret Wars is to merge the FF and X-Men into the main 616 universe, 828 will most likely be destroyed anyway.

Loose_Concentrate3322025-11-24 19:32

The multi world/timelines just confused a lot of people. I'm pretty sure they're going to make one universe after Secret Wars and get rid of all this complication... And I prefer it that way.

Zulmoka5312025-11-25 02:13

Yeah the multiverse stuff has run its course, and it’s been a bumpy one at that.

FalenAlter2025-11-24 19:35

I would like to see the worlds somehow merge so there's a whole borough of New York with the Baxter building and retro-60s aesthetic to use. Ben gets to keep his girlfriend too.

jtfjtf2025-11-24 20:00

Imagine being the FF where you’ve achieved peace in your world and then you get stuck in the hellscape that is 616.

ContentAssumption2042025-11-24 20:02

Moving the characters to the utopian, retro-futuristic Earth 828 would be completely antithetical to Marvel’s main philosophy. These characters were meant to exist in “the world outside your window.”

Mellotom2025-11-25 00:23

Secret Wars famously doesn’t allow this to happen.

ckal092025-11-25 02:50

I was hoping the FF would lose and it would be destroyed by Galactus, with the team just being able to escape to our universe.

Sadly that didn’t happen.

MarcSpector17012025-11-25 14:29

I'd prefer we keep Earth 828 and lose Earth-616 altogether. Too much dumb shit has happened on 616. With 828 we have a clean slate starting from what looks to be the year 1969. Just reintroduce all the best MCU characters in Earth-828 in more comic-accurate, less tech-heavy forms, and forget about the characters no one cares about. Clunky Iron Man armor, no Stark-style 3D computer crap, no nanotech, no magically appearing and disappearing helmets. Go heavy with silver age style villains. Fin Fang Foom would be awesome. People would inherently understand an MCU reboot better if they started fresh on a new Earth.