I think the next 2 avengers movies will be a disaster

The hype and build up isn't there, and it won't be like Endgame and Infinity War, but disaster is a very very strong term to use here.

Maybe it's you that's changed?

You typed out a good number of words, but said nothing at all. You're just claiming it will be a disaster, with no reasoning whatsoever.

Actually a nothing post, jesus do you people have nothing better to do

As soon as that first official trailer drops there will be no more post like these

Yeah the writing, the actors, just feels like the b team.

Ya.. I think they’re trying to build it up like IW and EG but it just doesn’t have the legs old MCU had.

We know next to nothing. All these random groups, some whom aren’t even together yet are coming together.

This movie is building on “epicness” and nostalgia rather than characters. At least, so it seems

More than likely given the past 6 years, yes

I don't want old vibe

Someone tell OP that trailers, marketing and press tours exist.

While I expect nothing but complete and total fan service in these movies, I would agree the lead up has been horrible.

Infinity War and Endgame had perfect lead up. Every movie felt connected to the finale. Every character mattered. Every story was relevant to the conclusion.

These last few phases have been a total mess. Little to no actual relevance towards Doomsday or Secret Wars. Aside from Loki, Deadpool & Wolverine and Fantastic Four.. Nothing really became mandatory viewing. So many irrelevant characters and stories. After credits scenes weren't used like they were to bring Thanos and the stones into the picture. The whole threat of Doom only came together after Fantastic Four. I get the whole Kang thing got ruined but even that was poorly planned.

While I expect these next 2 movies to be the best things we've seen since Endgame, I really wish the build up have been better.

I think so too. I'm expecting very flawed and interesting train wrecks. The Russos aren't great filmmakers and this time they don't have the developed popular characters or ongoing story to work with that the Infinity saga gave them. The MCU is in a very different place than the last time they were around and they have a Dr. Doom to develop, a nostalgia X-Men team, two Avengers teams and who knows what else to make work in this mad rush to a new Endgame.

I think the issue is the "old MCU" did so much build up and in such a new and unique way, that non-comicbook movie people went to see them. Now, not so much. So even if the new movies are spectacular, and to be fair, I'm willing to give the Russo's the benefit of the doubt, the audiences just won't be as high because those non-comicbook-movie people probably not coming back without the same hype and buildup that the MCU had by the time they were rolling in Phase 3.

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How about you give them a fucking chance. The fact that they brought back the Russos and McFeely shows they’re at least trying

I think the movies themselves will probably be just as good on a *technical* level. I just wonder if the story will be there to get people on board. We'll see I guess. 

NWH and DP&W were the highest grossing post-Endgame films by far.

**Nostalgia sells.** It might hurt the overall quality of the films to fans with more discriminating tastes, (Especially those of us who just wanted **Victor Von Doom** to finally be done right on the big screen. It's looking more and more unlikely the casting of RDJ isn't going to be relevant to the plot.) but.....

*Want art (and everything else for that matter) to improve? Time to end capitalism.*

Yes, the next 2 Avenegrs

I think it’ll be awesome.

As much as the Russos need to give us two great movies introducing Doctor Doom, making the audience love the Fantastic Four and juggling a huge cast of characters, they also need to fix the MCU. There have been a bunch of new characters and a bunch of bad decisions in the past six years since Endgame, and the Russos need to either fix what isn't working or retcon it. They're basically deciding what the MCU Mark II will be along with Feige.