MCU Post Secret Wars
Do you guys think the MCU after Secret Wars will be more like how how the Insomniac games are? Most teams already exist, some villains too, and most heroes are experienced
I’d really like the MCU to move in that direction and stop with the many origin stories, because most of them feel unnecessary. They could just introduce new minor characters like She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, or Moon Knight through stories involving major heroes and teams, similar to how Adam Warlock was introduced in Guardians of the Galaxy
Another thing I’d like though I’m not sure it would work is for all the phases to focus on one story, instead of stretching multiple phases to reach an Endgame/Secret Wars style finale. If most heroes already existed, those stories could be told much faster and anyone could start with the mcu in that phase as there wouldnt need much prior context, like one phase with a xmen trilogy with some standalone movies with other xmen characters or even a spider man/f4 movie and in the end of the phase a major villain shows up like apocalypse or onslaught, or even a phase focusing on street level characters (some bigger/standalone movies in each phase of course but with focus on a certain storyline)
Sorry if this has been discussed previously, i just wanted to know what you guys think and to show my "take" on this.
I’d really like the MCU to move in that direction and stop with the many origin stories, because most of them feel unnecessary. They could just introduce new minor characters like She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, or Moon Knight through stories involving major heroes and teams, similar to how Adam Warlock was introduced in Guardians of the Galaxy
Another thing I’d like though I’m not sure it would work is for all the phases to focus on one story, instead of stretching multiple phases to reach an Endgame/Secret Wars style finale. If most heroes already existed, those stories could be told much faster and anyone could start with the mcu in that phase as there wouldnt need much prior context, like one phase with a xmen trilogy with some standalone movies with other xmen characters or even a spider man/f4 movie and in the end of the phase a major villain shows up like apocalypse or onslaught, or even a phase focusing on street level characters (some bigger/standalone movies in each phase of course but with focus on a certain storyline)
Sorry if this has been discussed previously, i just wanted to know what you guys think and to show my "take" on this.
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Anything that flopped will be dropped. Especially with Iger going out and a new CEO coming in with "something to prove", there will be no appetite for making movies that don't generate significant profit or that lose money.
If they can get Fantastic 4 down to a 120m budget it can be profitable enough to make worth continuing.
Although if there's one street-level hero whom 120m budget isn't enough, it's definitely Spider-Man.
For a healthy profit with a box office take at 500 million, the budget needs to be 120 million-ish. A influential director might be able to talk them into 150 million and a lower profit.
But 180 million to F4's "North of 200 million" is off the table with a box office of 500 million.
The first Avengers movie did help Iron Man 3, Thor: The Dark World, and Captain America: The Winter Soldier do better than Iron Man 1, Iron Man 2, Thor 1 and Captain America: The First Avenger, after all.
They don't make a sequel to a flop that didn't profit by giving it the same budget and hoping more people show up.
That is absolutely not happening.
F4: Don't really expect any changes...I am super confused on who they be fighting with Doom, Galactus and Surfer seemingly off the Board...Yeah Yeah Negative Zone and Annihilus but will that hype the casuals don't know...should spin Nova out of this Project.
X-men: Going Young apparently don't know if that means all the big names are Young or they going the X-men Evolution route and some of the A-Listers are old and some are young...Will we Have Logan, Old Man Logan (Jackman) or Laura or just two of those don't know.
Avengers: Or Old MCU....BP3 and Dr. Strange 3 after that no clue. Scarlet Witch is popular enough for more projects but how long does Lizzie want to stick around for? Thor 5 is rumored but again how long is Chris Hemsworth staying around? I have no idea what they do with Thunderbolts, Sam Wilson, She Hulk and Wonder Man....Characters who sure are around but cannot sell. Maybe the next two Avengers movies will boost their profiles such that they are sellers but I don't know about that given RDJ vs Evans seems to be taking center stage again.
Origin stories are going to stick around, especially for characters that are new to audiences. There can be creative ways to explore a character's origin outside of devoting the plot of the movie to it.
The X-Men should start off young, and you should be able to see the characters change and evolve. We don't need 30 year old Cyclops who's been around for a decade.
I think the Phases concept has been used enough, and it doesn't need to stick around. A common suggestion has to that some movies may have ideas that carry over, and that works well.
Explaining why the whole saga was structured like on long phase, since only the final Phase of the Multiverse Saga has Avengers movies in schedule.
The current Saga had a number of issues, from strikes and Covid, unexpected death of Boseman, the legal issue with Majors, films that were complete bombs, the failures of the tv shows, etc. Marvel had to pivot A LOT, and as a result things felt even more disjointed.
Not sure we've ever had any indication Marvel was getting rid of the Phases concept. It's been said unofficially that the next Saga is gonna be the Mutant Saga. It does make some sense why the Phases/Saga idea started, DC even copied it. But not sure how much sense it makes now.
Kevin Feige said they want a new Tony Stark and Steve Rogers, and the MCU has become like homework. So they are going to focus on a completely new universe.
Minor changes doesn't solve the homework issue.