Do we have any indication of how the series (especially Born Again S2 and S3) will link up with Doomsday and Secret Wars?

So far currently the only MCU media released after Doomsday and before Secret Wars is Born Again S3. Surely if there are possibly incursions and multiversal shenanigans in Doomsday and a possible Battleword in secret Wars that a BA S3 would look very different.

Only workaround I can think of is it'll all take place before Doomsday. But then with the Punisher in Brand New Day which is set right before Doomsday might make things a bit confusing continuity wise (unless he doesn't appear in both seasons

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Wompum2025-11-21 13:04

How would we possibly know

Relevant-Bicycle-8442025-11-21 13:06

Kevin feige said that tv shows will no longer be connected with the movies so born again will not have any ties with the movies but they're still in the same universe

Monarki2025-11-21 13:15

I mean if there's a universe altering event nothing happening in the tv shows makes zero sense.

BatmanForever232025-11-21 13:19

lol I love when Redditors decisively claim that something that hasn't yet happened makes zero sense, despite the fact that it can absolutely make sense. What's wrong with S2 happening before Doomsday/SW, and S3 taking place after?

I guarantee that no one who watches Daredevil watches it for Multiversal nonsense, so what would actually make zero sense would be to force such a plot line into the show.

Wtygrrr2025-11-21 13:28

Tell that to Agents of SHIELD.

Monarki2025-11-21 13:29

Agents of Shield stop being in the same universe after S2. The audience and the show understood that. No one thought it was a shared universe anymore while watching.

SeekerVash2025-11-21 14:56

Everyone but comics fans thought it was the same universe.

The general audience has no idea or understanding of MCU possessing different universes.

Monarki2025-11-21 15:00

Nah I remember explicitly people realizing it was a one way relationship at most. And then the last two seasons solidified the fact it was another universe because there was no Blip.

General audiences aren't dumb they understand two similar things can be in different universes

CaptHayfever2025-11-21 16:29

I can't respond downthread from SeekerVash for reasons, but I need to address something you said in a reply to him:

> And then the last two seasons solidified the fact it was another universe because there was no Blip.

You don't know there was no Blip. Just not talking about something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Monarki2025-11-21 16:56

Can't remember specific examples but it was quite clear from what was said and what they did the blip didn't happen..the creatives even acknowledged that they obviously weren't told about the blip and thus things are quite different

CaptHayfever2025-11-21 17:12

Everyone who saw the phase 3 presentation at Comic-Con was told about the blip the instant Infinity War was announced as a two-parter. The only surprises there were *who* got blipped & *how long* it would last in-story.

There's nothing in the show that contradicts the blip.

Monarki2025-11-21 17:16

No way they spoiled the blip like that. Do you have a source for that? Because if that was the case it would've been mentioned online and never saw any indication pre Infinity War Thanos was 100% going to snap only that it was possible (because of the comics)

Also the lack of mention of a severely altered world in S6 (post infinity war) is pretty clear that a blip never happened. The world was still the same which is most definitely not the case post infinity war in the MCU. It was generally accepted that AOS was a different timeline.

CaptHayfever2025-11-21 17:34

They didn't explicitly say it, but it became obvious to anyone who'd knew about the comic snap & about narrative structure.

They barely spend any time around normal people in S6; who's to say what's "altered" or not?

Monarki2025-11-21 17:42

So I searched it up and the show runner Jed Whedon did know about the Blip but just didn't incorporate it into S5 to avoid spoiling Infinity War.

S5 ends on the events of infinity war. s6 takes place a year after , they're still on earth for a lot of the season, having zero mention of the blip is strange and it's effect on any of the earth based characters is weird. The writers were basically told to ignore the snap happened. And I'm S7 they use endgame logic to imply that they were a branching timeline.

So at the end of the day AOS ended up in a different timeline and the Blip never happened

Wtygrrr2025-11-22 19:43

I see tons of people on here insisting that it’s the same universe. Especially in the AoS sub.

Legal-Start94832025-11-21 13:18

I don't know if the majority thinks like me but these decison makes me to only watch shows that I'm interested with. Like if you told me Echo, Daredevil, Ironhearth weren't supposed to have a big consequences on movies, I wouldn't watch them at all

CT-10302025-11-21 13:10

It likely won’t.

Johnny02302025-11-21 13:22

I think Daredevil will always remain somewhat on its own, without connections

CaptHayfever2025-11-21 16:30

It'd be bizarre if S2 wasn't set *almost immediately* after S1. And we can't possibly know what's up with S3 until we see S2.

Monarki2025-11-21 16:49

Do we know timeline wise where S1 took place? Is it all the way back to like a year after the events of Daredevil S3?

Honestly I can see that. What that means is the Punisher we will see in Brand New Day is not the same as we saw in BA S2. Which could bring its own continuity issues.

CaptHayfever2025-11-21 17:10

We do know, in fact, based on given info:
--Fisk gets the idea to run for mayor in spring 2025 (the post-credit scene of Echo).
--Matt visits LA, gets a new suit because he's actively Daredeviling, & is in a pretty good mood in summer 2025 (episode 8 of She-Hulk).
--After Foggy's death in the prologue of Born Again, Matt quits being Daredevil completely. A year later, Dex is finally sentenced for the murder. Shortly after that, Fisk wins his election (which means it's November).
--Fisk is inaugurated on New Year's Day.
--Matt thwarts a bank robbery on St. Patrick's Day *before* returning to Daredeviling.
--Once Daredevil resurfaces & Muse dies, Kingpin moves very quickly to ramp up his "anti-vigilante" measures; the rest of the season after that point spans no more than a couple weeks.

Putting that all together: The prologue is fall 2025, the rest of the first episode is fall 2026 (ending on Election Day), & the remainder of the season starts in January 2027 & ends no later than mid-April 2027, before the attempt to shoot President Ross in Brave New World.

What do you mean about Punisher?

Monarki2025-11-21 17:14

Thanks for laying that all out. So in way there's a world where BA S3 can take place just before Doomsday instead of after since S2nWill carry on straight from S1. Guess we'll have to see how S2 goes. Ignore my punisher comment

Grayx_28872025-11-21 17:02

Not really. I have heard that season two of Daredevil: Born Again is set before the events of Spider-Man: Brave New Day.

Aromatic-Cupcake48022025-11-21 18:35

Born Again S3 is the only thing in the MCU to come between Doomsday and Secret Wars. I don’t know how they would address everything being normal in S3 with whatever happens at the end of Doomsday.

Scary-Command22322025-11-21 19:17

No way do the Russo's tell the DD writers what they are planning so they can include relevant things in DD S3.

DD S2 and Punisher are before BND and I would not be surprised that something happens at the end in BND with spidey and maybe Punisher, and that's all we get for street heroes set up for Doomsday/secret wars. I'm sure DD and other defenders will be sadly ignored with Kevin wanting TV and film separate. ( I know punisher is in BND but he is only a guest star in DD BA)😞

I bet all universes collapsing somehow ridiculously by-passes DD. At best he is suddenly in battleworld with the least expense for Disney as possible and then into a new universe in the same way with maybe a comment at most, and almost all of it in DD looks the same.

This is the opposite of what I want. DD is one of the most interesting characters to utilise for trauma for the common man, just as he would have been for the snap.

In addition, I don't think they want to pay Charlie marvel film money so he is more expensive for tv, so will keep him out except for the briefest cameos. 😢