Interesting. I wonder how involved 20th Century Studios actually is with these films.
Jedi_Master832025-11-20 16:49
It was distributed by Disney so it’s probably just a 20th Century Producer credit maybe?
FX1142025-11-21 06:53
They aren't listed as the production company for either movie.
Caciulacdlac2025-11-20 14:39
I heard that the X-Men and Fantastic Four licenses that Fox had were different, in that Fox licensed X-Men directly from Marvel, but they licensed Fantastic Four through Constantin Films, which is still involved in the licensing process, so Marvel has to keep the Fantastic Four rights tied to 20th Century, otherwise the licensing rights revert back to Constantin.
It's just a legal arrangement, I don't think 20th Century is actually involved in the process.
Benjamin_Grimm2025-11-20 14:49
Fantastic Four was licensed to Constantin in 1986, way before the late 90s fire sale, and some time after all of the legal actions that arose from the 1994 ashcan film, Constantin partnered with Fox. I think that later arrangement sort of cemented Constantin and Fox together, though, because Fox didn't want Constantin able to shop around the rights. Since 20th Century is Fox's successor studio, that cementing is still there, with Constantin getting some sort of cut of anything made.
whitepangolin2025-11-20 15:37
The rights issues around X-Men and Fantastic Four, even though Disney bought FOX, are so fascinating to me. Especially when Ryan Reynolds said they legally couldn't use "Wolverine" in the title of Deadpool and Wolverine for awhile...like, why?
JaesopPop2025-11-21 06:28
I'm not sure if Constantin would still have a claim given the time between F4ntastic and First Steps? That's more than 7 years from the former before the latter started production, and they are not credited for First Steps.
Significant_Silver992025-11-21 06:38
They still do
JaesopPop2025-11-21 06:56
What are you basing that on? I don't see them credit on First Steps.
I can't find anything else though. Not on their website, they aren't credited in First Steps as far as I can find.
FX1142025-11-21 06:52
It's only 2 years more than between F4ntastic and Rise of the Silver Surfer.
JaesopPop2025-11-21 06:56
>It's only 2 years more than between F4ntastic and Rise of the Silver Surfer.
Which is enough to bring it into question - production on a new film had to start within 7 years.
FX1142025-11-21 06:59
Production was pushed back because of the strikes. That may count as an act of God when it comes to the contract.
JaesopPop2025-11-21 07:00
I don't think production was ever going to start in 2022. Pedro Pascal wasn't even cast until well after. Constantin also aren't credited like they are in the previous FF films.
Significant_Silver992025-11-21 06:39
Fox licensed X-Men from The Donners' Company not Marvel
ICommentWhenInRome2025-11-20 14:42
I wonder if it just has to do with the archived footage they used for the old Fox movies in the credits.
Significant_Silver992025-11-21 06:40
Not really. the reason the film is credited to 20th Century it's because Fox licensed the X-Men and Deadpool rights from The Donners' Company
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It's just a legal arrangement, I don't think 20th Century is actually involved in the process.
Which is enough to bring it into question - production on a new film had to start within 7 years.