"Death's Hand In Mine" or "Self-Control"?

Both episode 1x07 of Agatha All Along and 4x15 of Agents of SHIELD are consistently regarded as the single best episodes in the MCU. So it's time to pit them against each other.

Which one is best? Lilia Calderu spending her last hours on Earth reliving her life out of order? Or Daisy Johnson taking on a Secret Invasion of body-snatching robots like Sarah Connor?

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theMagicSwingPiano2025-11-18 21:03

Definitely the one from Agatha All Along for me. Wasn't crazy about the show as a whole but I loved that episode.

Hufa1232025-11-18 21:05

AAA was good, but it was not on the level of Agents of SHIELD. And Self Control was the best of Agents of SHIELD.

knotsteve2025-11-18 21:13

Apples and oranges. I rail against the idea that we can or should rank excellence. What is to be gained?

If we must, I'll go with AOS because it was part of a larger work of sustained quality and therefore more satisfying for me.

But it's still apples and oranges.

jcagraham2025-11-19 03:50

It's my favorite season of tv ever. Masterful weaving of three story arcs that felt distinct yet connected.

BaronZhiro2025-11-18 21:25

I’d give it to Self Control just because it was so much more fraught with peril and suspense, and had more astounding bits of genius in the writing (like the wholly unexpected way that LMayD’s storyline was resolved).

The Agatha episode also loses a point because the same premise had already been well explored with Robin in s5 of AoS.

____mynameis____2025-11-18 21:25

Agents of Shield hits harder cuz those are character you've been accustomed for 4-5 years now. Half the reason who is the LMD aspect worked so well is because of this.

Come to think of it, Robin was a seer like Lilia and had an arc similar to hers and that's another entry into my list of "tropes done by AOS before main MCU". That list is way longer than it should be.

BaronZhiro2025-11-19 05:55

I couldn’t unsee that during the *Agatha* episode.

blackbutterfree2025-11-24 02:39

> Come to think of it, Robin was a seer like Lilia and had an arc similar to hers and that's another entry into my list of "tropes done by AOS before main MCU". That list is way longer than it should be.

Honestly, I'm glad someone else brought that up before I did. lol

PCofSHIELD2025-11-18 22:58

Self Control not even close

FPG_Matthew2025-11-18 23:10

Daredevil does exist you know. There’s just no basis to the claim “consistently regarded as the single best” without acknowledging DD

I love AoS with all my heart but there’s at least 5 episodes of Daredevil that top AoS’s best

fieldsRrings2025-11-19 01:34

Death's Hand In Mine because Patti LuPone was brilliant.

Turbulent-Spirit-5682025-11-19 08:20

Probably Agatha cause Agents of Shield isn't canon...

kneegrowth4572025-11-19 09:12

A New Napkin - the Daredevil Season 3 finale is better than both of these

hiimred22025-11-20 06:17

Glorious Purpose (Loki S2 finale) and Home(Punisher S1 penultimate) as well.

kneegrowth4572025-11-20 06:18

yeah man forgot about Glorious Purpose, Daredevil is the better show but I may think Glorious Purpose is the best episode from either show tbh

Fares265972025-11-19 14:22

Given that I'm not aware of this information, I must cast some doubt on the "consistently regarded" part. Maybe by a portion of the MCU fandom, but is it big enough? Is it representative enough of the whole?

Bruhimonlyeleven2025-11-19 15:40

Agents of shield is meh.

ThePurityPixel2025-11-20 06:19

Why is this not tagged with Reddit's built-in spoiler flair? OP, can you fix this?

Ok-Presentation8092025-11-20 20:37

definitely death's hand in mine for me

InevitableWeight3142025-11-21 05:33

Ahem… Loki 2x6