Yes it will, tchalla is a character, he should be allowed to exist even tho a dude who played him died.
bristenli2025-11-16 00:16
Tchalla the character was around long before Chadwick lived. But he MADE the role his. It just won't feel the same.
Steel_Serpent_Davos2025-11-16 00:17
I completely disagree. He portrayed tchalla wonderfully, as will the next actor to take up the mantle
heckdwreck2025-11-16 00:20
Completely disagree? That it won't feel the same?... It will feel different. That doesn't mean bad.
But it will feel different.
Steel_Serpent_Davos2025-11-16 00:21
Sure but after 5 seconds you’ll be engrossed in the film and it won’t matter
ToeAble11452025-11-16 02:31
would you say the same about RDJ’s Iron Man or Chris Evans Cap?
AmbitionOnly78722025-11-16 00:30
thats some bullshit
lolas_coffee2025-11-16 00:33
Simmer down.
JonSnoballs2025-11-16 02:03
that's a harsh response. just say you disagree. if iron man got recasted and someone commented "it just doesn't feel the same, it's hard to accept anyone other than RDJ", most people would absolutely understand, even if they felt differently.
SeanWonder2025-11-16 00:34
People who say otherwise are just naive or disingenuous to the impact that Chadwick and his role as BP made on the black community and many many others. He wasn’t, and isn’t, as replaceable as a bunch of folks made him seem to be. Which is why they took the time to acknowledge that with the 2nd film.
It’d be like if Sam Jackson unfortunately passed but people just expected Nick Fury to be immediately recast, and that’s even to a lesser degree because that character is less prominent and didn’t have a solo film that was hugely successful. It was a very special moment in time for a lot of people, and Chadwick is a HUGE part of that whether some folks understand it or not
Nightwing06132025-11-16 01:20
So only a Black character can have this impact on a community? That’s a stupid comment
Nightwing06132025-11-16 00:43
Christopher Reeve was the Superman I grew up and still my favorite. He passed away and I was very sad.
But I have still enjoyed and loved the versions that Tom Welling, Brandon Routh, Henry Cavill, Tyler Hoechlin & David Corenswet all played
These characters have been around for decades and should not be sidelined in film just because an actor passed away.
Yes, Chadwick is a great actor and a fantastic Black Panther. But the role should not die with him. They should have recasted the role with another actor. I get not doing it right away. Delay the movie, wait a year or so, recast and I guarantee you that Black Panther 2 would’ve been a hell of a lot better with T’Challa fighting Namor.
They had no issue recasting William Hurt’s character Thunderbolt Ross with Harrison Ford when he passed away from Cancer as well & this was after Chadwick.
I’m still in the side that they should recast. Bring in another actor and make it so this new T’Challa is from the past or from the multiverse. I don’t care. We just need T’Challa
unsupported2025-11-16 00:54
At least you left Dean Cain off the list. I had to triple check.
Nightwing06132025-11-16 01:18
We don’t talk about Dean Cain lol
DJfunkyPuddle2025-11-16 00:56
Strongly disagree, Boseman was good but MCU Panther was just a shade of his 616 counterpart.
LongjumpingEbb23452025-11-16 03:13
A far cry from comics T’Challa. Let’s hope they actually get the character right this time.
Linnus422025-11-16 03:30
Yeah Boseman was a great actor but he got a watered down T’Challa to work with who no edge or super genius
justafanboy10102025-11-16 00:19
Bruh 🤦🏾♂️
Steel_Serpent_Davos2025-11-16 00:20
Yes?
Jason_with_a_jay2025-11-16 00:22
There's zero reason to believe T'Challa is in this movie. More BP without BP. No thanks.
Steel_Serpent_Davos2025-11-16 00:23
I believe they set up the return of tchalla with his son……tchalla 😂
coldphront32025-11-16 00:24
Imagine if they age him up but everyone else still looks the same lol
Steel_Serpent_Davos2025-11-16 00:26
Well with doomsday/secret wars around the corner this isn’t out of the realm of possibility
unsupported2025-11-16 00:57
You dawg, j heard you like T'Challa, so we put T'Challa in your T'Challa.
Rising-Jay2025-11-16 00:41
But Shuri is BP, is that not a BP in action right there?? lol
ChemicalExperiment2025-11-16 00:49
People seem to have a hard time accepting these legacy characters after Phase 3. Sam, Shuri, and Riri just haven't caught on for people in the same way, to the point where people aren't even calling them Captain America and Black Panther. (I know the argument of "it's because they changed the race/gender" will come up, but I think the simpler answer is that their movies didn't become iconic in the same ways as their predecessors and cement them as important characters in their own right.)
Jason_with_a_jay2025-11-16 00:57
Nah. I love Sam as Cap and Riri. Ironheart a legit surprise to me. I loved that show. BP2 just wasn't a very good movie after the funeral scene, if I'm being honest. I love Shuri. We were talking T'Challa and this guy moved the goalpost.
Jason_with_a_jay2025-11-16 00:57
We're talking T'Challa. Keep up.
Joetheshow12025-11-16 00:26
I agree, am still sad about Bosmans passing but Tchalla is an awesome character that should be allowed to go forward to his full extent
Steel_Serpent_Davos2025-11-16 00:29
1000% they did themselves a huge disservice not immediately recasting
Joetheshow12025-11-16 00:31
Even the family wanted him recasted, BP2 would have been awesome with Namor and BP facing off
Steel_Serpent_Davos2025-11-16 00:32
Yep
Rising-Jay2025-11-16 00:40
They _did_ face off, and pretty well at that but I get what you’re trying to say
Joetheshow12025-11-16 01:08
Yawn, she had the costume but she wasnt BP
Nightwing06132025-11-16 00:47
His brother and family came out multiple times stating that Chadwick would’ve wanted the character to keep going and should not be retired just because he passed away
Harlockarcadia2025-11-16 02:27
I feel that as long as they cast well, which Marvel tends to do, then I think the fans would have embraced the new guy especially since his family was onboard and said he would have approved
Nightwing06132025-11-16 02:29
I agree. There’s a lot of good actors that could’ve played him
ManitouWakinyan2025-11-16 02:39
AFAIK that was just his brother. And honestly, what his brother thinks holds way less water to me than what Ryan thinks. That's the guy who knew him as an artist and an actor, and actually has to show up to work every day to make the movie work. If he didn't feel he could justice to the film with a new T'Challa right away, so be it.
AeroBlaze7772025-11-16 01:34
I think when they made the decision it was understandable, but looking back at Wakanda Forever it felt like they should’ve just recast.
ManitouWakinyan2025-11-16 02:37
They made a ton of money, won an Oscar, and got to process their grief as a community of artists. I'm not seeing a lot of downside.
lolas_coffee2025-11-16 00:32
*whoosh*
Way to not get a tribute because you can't stop glazing Marvel.
Steel_Serpent_Davos2025-11-16 00:33
Whut?
ScaredFamousfan2025-11-16 00:34
I’d argue that we should just keep going with Tchalla Jr. at this point. Gives us a chance to have a more comics accurate TChalla who’s the 8th smartest person in the Marvel Comics universe, and met Storm when they were children. Loved Chad’s TChalla but they did kind of take some of the superior intelligence away and gave it to Shuri. It’s an interesting way to recast the role and I’m on board with it.
Steel_Serpent_Davos2025-11-16 00:35
I’d assume this is why they named his kid tchalla
ScaredFamousfan2025-11-16 00:36
And they implied that the child was really smart
Steel_Serpent_Davos2025-11-16 00:39
Yep
Linnus422025-11-16 01:56
How did they do that?
ScaredFamousfan2025-11-16 02:39
At the end when Shuri meets him for the first time, it was a throwaway line of dialogue, like how he already knew multiple languages at a young age.
Worthyness2025-11-16 02:52
Would be normal for him given hed grow up in Haiti and probably know English and wakandan. So that's at least 2 plus whatever they would be speaking as a primary in Haiti (which is think is french).
4c512025-11-16 04:26
French and Haitian Creole, so at least 4 probably
AntiMilkman2025-11-16 01:44
I’ve thought this for a while. Mainly because I thought they might want a TChalla that sits in the same general age bracket as MCU Storm, but the intelligence level is a good shout too. I’m not mad at the direction they’ve taken since Chadwick’s passing.
ScaredFamousfan2025-11-16 01:57
It’s the cards we’ve been dealt with unfortunately, and Ryan knows what he’s doing so I’ve become more positive towards the direction they’re taking over time.
Live_Angle46212025-11-16 00:40
Shuri is better character than the movie version of T’Challa
Steel_Serpent_Davos2025-11-16 00:41
😂😂😂 what a hot take
havok72025-11-16 01:34
That idea works better in comics than it does in film. Not saying it doesn’t work, there are dozens of examples to prove it. But it is harder to move on especially given the circumstances.
frezz2025-11-16 02:21
No it won't. But that doesn't mean the character and mantle shouldn't go on
TikkiEXX772025-11-16 19:50
See he's more than just "a dude that played him" in a lot of people's eyes. That's a little reductive and doesn't speak to the impact Chadwick had.
SnooTomatoes47342025-11-16 00:47
Definitely won’t but I think it’s time. They respected him by giving it time. Love Chadwick he will always live in my heart as BP. Rest in Peace King 💙
“He was king and Black Panther to everyone, but to me he was everything. My T’Challa.” – Nakia
Grayx_28872025-11-16 01:09
Well, hopefully, they find an actor to play the adult version of T'Challa's son from a future timeline to carry out his father's legacy as the new Black Panther.
Creative-Ad95772025-11-16 08:37
This is true
mikeweasy2025-11-16 10:11
and it never will!
spaceraingame2025-11-16 00:14
I hope they bring a new T’Challa this time. Maybe through the multiverse.
i_like_cake_962025-11-16 00:19
if Feige promised a reset of the MCU, maybe a multiverse T'Challa won't be needed.
"Kevin Feige has confirmed the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) will undergo a "reset" after Avengers: Secret Wars, though he avoids the term "reboot". This reset will streamline the timeline and introduce a new era, which includes recasting major roles"
justafanboy10102025-11-16 00:21
Good point
old_man_log4n2025-11-16 00:34
What will happen once the MCU resets? Like back to origin stories of the existing heroes, like Iron Man, Captain America and so on?
What does reset means?
i_like_cake_962025-11-16 00:35
no idea....
"Kevin Feige has confirmed the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) will undergo a "reset" after Avengers: Secret Wars, though he avoids the term "reboot". This reset will streamline the timeline and introduce a new era, which includes recasting major roles"
old_man_log4n2025-11-16 00:36
Thank you. So, it means bringing new heroes that aren't there yet or haven't been used at all in some capacity.
LaserCondiment2025-11-16 01:01
It probably means a new strategy for the MCU! Meaning a new streamlined story, that will redefine some old characters and introduce some new ones.
Hopefully it will result in a more impactful story with more room for character development and actual consequences, while also being easier to follow for casuals.
veemonjosh2025-11-16 01:32
I imagine like the new DCU. Certain heroes will already be established to not retread origin stories that were already told, certain actors will still be around while other characters are recast, and they'll pick and choose what's still canon from the previous universe.
captainkezz1232025-11-16 04:58
I’m guessing some universes merge with mainline MCU
postALEXpress2025-11-16 18:40
Secret Wars on the comics had Universes fight for their survival. So, that is how Miles, the Spider-Man of the Ultimate universe, got into the 616 proper. In the end Peter and Miles both survived because they weren't the same person...or something like that. There was an arc later with the 616 Miles too I think, but I digress.
So, with that we can assume the movies will introduce alternate versions of nearly every character. Each one will have their own origin story that can be explored after their introduction in Secret Wars. Some characters wouldn't need a whole movie to explain their origin, while I'm sure some would be fertile grounds for money or writing.
This also allows characters to be entirely recast with the same exact origin.
This is what reset vs reboot means.
AnOnlineHandle2025-11-16 00:43
The more they do this stuff the less it feels like anything matters.
Phase 1-3 were great because it felt like a serious shared scifi universe where earth was very much a tiny underdog and what was out there was mysterious and dangerous, tied together by the secret government agency shield.
Then they just started throwing more and more stuff in without connecting any of it together, like wizards, sword, a bunch of different magical factions or whatever, and none of it feels connected or cohesive or important anymore. IMO it started with the first Dr Strange movie which did a terrible job of retconning the wizards into the universe, compared to the great job which things like Antman and Captain America did, and since then it's all just become disconnected random nonsense and such absurdly inconsistent multiverse stuff that none of it matters anymore.
ToeAble11452025-11-16 02:40
don’t think theres a true way to please everybody. If you try to connect everything to shield a lotta of people would probably find it tacky or contrived after a certain point ya know. It’s inevitable, the more they expand the universe things will need to be introduced abruptly or without any deep setup from past films. The only real solution to simply everything is a reboot where they start small again essentially. The comics run into the same issue too.
AnOnlineHandle2025-11-16 12:34
It's not just about Shield, it was about it feeling like a semi-grounded universe not so dissimilar to our own, where history had started to branch out into something more interesting. Once they're living in some weird blended universe it's completely detached from anything familiar, and is more like DC with its fictional cities etc, whereas the strength of Marvel was that it takes place in real places from our own like New York and feels much more grounded and like a reality not so far from our own.
The random addition of places like Madripoor without a good explanation really began to wear at this as well.
James_Parnell2025-11-16 00:32
Shuri was more than fine tbh
spaceraingame2025-11-16 01:10
Nah. I just couldn’t buy her as a Black Panther. It was way too forced.
James_Parnell2025-11-16 01:13
Nah she was a good black panther in the comics as well as in the movie. Not forced at all considering
AweHellYo2025-11-16 05:40
MBJ as alternate non corrupted killmonger?
Deathbysnusnu172025-11-16 00:15
Just, please be a jump into the future. Track record of sequels that have kids as the main characters tend to be bad 😂
Sarahthelizard2025-11-16 01:43
Also the difficulties that Ironheart went through.
SandieSandwicheadman2025-11-16 01:43
Why would it be a kid as the lead? The lead would just be Shuri
ScottOwenJones2025-11-16 01:46
Because that worked out so well last time
Graynard2025-11-16 01:58
The movie made a ton of money and had good reviews, with several critics specifically praising her performance but ok I guess lol
sbrooks842025-11-16 02:01
I really want to know what the original Black Panther 2 story was going to include before Chadwick died
marvelcomics222025-11-16 02:16
There's a great Bullets And Blockbusters [video ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJxKvrziKGc)on that.
sbrooks842025-11-16 02:19
Diving in. Thank you kind person!
TheFirstSonOfTheSea2025-11-16 02:06
I mean, Wakanda Forever made over $800M and won an Oscar…
Deathbysnusnu172025-11-16 02:29
The movie ended with the discovery that T’challa had a son. That paired with Shuri being a lead was luke warm and the actress herself being “controversial”. There is always a possibility the next movie focuses on his son taking the helm. I just would prefer they jump forward to make him older.
SkintCrayon2025-11-16 07:31
A jump forward would be awkward given that this takes place within the MCU main timeline.
NervousAd32022025-11-16 07:36
It will probably take place after Doomsday/Secret Wars
The movie & the timeline in general can be whatever they want
OmecronPerseiHate2025-11-16 22:08
If it's after Secret Wars it'll be a reboot and if it's a reboot then it doesn't matter who the lead is. Secret Wars' whole thing is being a reset of the timeline.
Jonn_Jonzz_Manhunter2025-11-16 08:53
It's post-Secret Wars on the other end of a soft reboot
Pen_dragons_pizza2025-11-16 10:48
Not if it’s after secret wars
monkeymad22025-11-16 11:34
Just have him fall into a time hole in the ancestral realm or something. Problem solved. Goes in aged 11 comes out at 28 or whatever age is needed for a really good casting.
redditaccount3000002025-11-16 13:15
I wouldn’t mind tchallas son taking over. I know it was due to circumstances but shuri being BP felt forced. She feels like a side character. Maybe tchallas son being a lead would feel better than shuri.
electrorazor2025-11-17 00:07
They did the best they could honestly. But having her as an interim black panther and Tchalla jr taking over post Secret Wars is an idea I love
BigfootsBestBud2025-11-16 20:30
That cant really be done considering its a shared universe with other Marvel films.
How do you handle a Black Panther film being set in the future of the MCU, because T'Challa Jr would still be a kid in the present of the MCU.
ToDandy2025-11-16 04:42
It will most likely be T’challa Jr after Secret Wars. It also will then fit with Coogler’s trilogy following a different Black Panther with each film and set up a new main Wakanda King. I like Suri but people want T’challa back on the throne. I like Batgirl but I’d prefer a Batman movie with the actual Bruce Wayne.
EagleSaintRam2025-11-16 10:35
To the point, if they cast a kid or teen, that'll be high-risk, high-reward to the nth degree. I find child performances to be all-or-nothing.
WombatChilli2025-11-16 16:57
Oops all origin stories.
Kind of the opposite approach to Spider-Man. Both were established as already powered and active in Civil War and Spidey didn't get an origin movie.
ShoeTasty2025-11-16 05:24
Because Shuri sucks ass
foxfoxal2025-11-16 06:32
She has been fine, you guys are just moving your opinions of the actress into the character.
thr0waway24352025-11-16 08:09
Hard disagree, her character is one of the highlights of post Endgame MCU for me.
Complex character with both incredible virtue and serious flaws, who handles trauma realistically, who has dynamic heartfelt relationships (T’Challa, her mother, Namor) and interesting themes/conflicts (her atheism in a deeply religious society). And whatever you say about Letitia Wright’s off-screen antics, you cannot deny she’s a damn good actress.
I like her more than I like any of the new gen heroes except Spidey and Yelena. Maybe John Walker.
redditaccount3000002025-11-16 13:26
Is spidey new gen? He was introduced way back in winter soldier. But, imo, of the characters pushed to leads introduced around infinity wars, yelena, John walker post thunderbolts, Kate bishop, FF, ms marvel and moon knight are all better. So that’s like everyone minus ironheart and eternals.i
Edit. Civil war not winter soldier. But he had a cameo and headlined a movie before infinity war, so he doesn’t feel as new gen as some others.
lolzidop2025-11-16 21:36
Spider-Man was introduced in Civil War in 2016
Madonna-of-the-Wasps2025-11-16 19:07
She was great in the first one. But then they had to change her personality and role and ugh.
dwide_k_shrude2025-11-17 02:16
Nah she’s amazing.
Kindly-Koala61502025-11-16 01:44
Yeah, it’s a risky move for sure, kids can really ruin a good vibe lmao
KrifeH2025-11-16 01:51
You weren't happy with the dozen plucky teenage girls wearing chucks?
_Levitated_Shield_2025-11-16 02:06
Why would the kid be the main lead? He isn't old enough yet.
Philander_Chase2025-11-16 03:38
Good thing Shuri will be the lead then, not a kid
Crimkam2025-11-16 04:11
Naw we need to go full sharkboy and lavagirl with the sequel
taviusparadise2025-11-16 04:12
they have 2 years to develop. ryan hasnt had a bad movie yet.
dsteffee2025-11-17 02:48
Black Panther 2 is where I'd disagree
Boempowered2025-11-17 03:02
It's not as good as the first one, overstuffed and a little messy at times.. but a BAD movie? Come on.
hear_the_thunder2025-11-17 19:41
I’m seeing the BP2 was bad take spammed all over reddit. The manosphere seems to have been given its cut and paste orders.
Savitar1232025-11-18 16:36
A lot of it is people who very clearly hate black women
demonoddy2025-11-16 05:37
He won’t be a kid
abellapa2025-11-16 07:18
Just have secret wars reboot the universe with T'challa never have died and Recast or pretend that in the universe The Son is already grown up and The King who is names T'challa so Recast anyway
ProductArizona2025-11-16 00:18
Im ready for the next T'Challa, hell yeah
Rudias872025-11-16 00:18
I'm in the minority here but I want a different director
justafanboy10102025-11-16 00:20
Why?
That’s a unlikely because Ryan Coogler is involved with everything Wakanda
Rudias872025-11-16 00:29
I know it's unlikely, I think this character has so much potential but I feel as though it hasn't been fulfilled. Granted, he had to introduce BP twice but both films didn't do anything for me. I feel as though the BP in CW was way better than what we saw in the first movie.
Also, I think it would be good to have a different voice. Coogler is a good director but I do think he's slightly overrated.
justafanboy10102025-11-16 00:36
Overrated? Dude only has 5 directing credits to his name🤣
Rudias872025-11-16 00:56
Liked his direction in Fruitvale and Creed. Surprised he didn't bring any of that style from Creed to BP. I was excited about BP but ended up being disappointed by it.
I thought the action scenes could have been better handled, sometimes the set looked cheap especially the museum scene. Both panther movies have pacing issues.
To answer your other question, the performance of Chadwick was better in CW, there was a certain arrogance in the way he performed which was missing in BP.
ZenithGamage2025-11-16 00:24
What's wrong with Coogler's direction? Also who would you want as a director?
Rudias872025-11-16 01:12
If he can find that Bourne form I think Paul Greengrass would be a good fit
vicvega882025-11-16 00:28
Coogler has done great with every Marvel project he’s worked on. Curious what you don’t like about his directing?
Rudias872025-11-16 00:33
I feel as though we got a better BP in CW than what we got in BP movie. Maybe it's not the direction but a different writer might help?
justafanboy10102025-11-16 00:38
What is better about how Black Panther is portrayed in Civil War than how he was portrayed in his own movie?
CutMeLoose792025-11-16 00:18
Just not interested. First one was decent (culturally significant, but nothing special entertainment wise). Second one was trash.
ItsAProdigalReturn2025-11-16 00:24
I thought they were both fucking incredible.
CutMeLoose792025-11-16 00:29
We have very different standards on what makes an incredible movie.
First one certainly wasn’t bad, but the second one I thought was pretty awful in parts.
ItsAProdigalReturn2025-11-16 00:40
I highly doubt you just have higher standards than me, we just have different tastes. There are plenty of masterpiece films that I LOVE, and plenty I don't. I'm a filmmaker by career and have seen thousands upon thousands of movies and have met thousands of filmmakers in my life, all with varying tastes.
Jrocker-ame2025-11-16 00:25
Im gonna have to disagree on the second one. It was a film about loss, grief, and how we handle that. Seeing it after my mom recently died really resonated with me. I would agree that the super hero parts weren't amazing but everything else was
CutMeLoose792025-11-16 00:28
I went to see it because it’s a super hero movie…
I get some people get invested because of Chadwick, but as an actual piece of entertainment (which is what I saw it for), I thought it was pretty crappy. One of the few Marvel movies I’ve never cared to watch again.
Jrocker-ame2025-11-16 00:36
How did you react to guardians 3? That oe was extremely emotionally heavy too.
CutMeLoose792025-11-16 00:40
I thought it was a much better story and much better directed. While I enjoyed the other 2 movies more, Guardians 3 was pretty decent.
Emotional parts aren’t an issue as I loved Infinity War and Endgame. I just don’t think Black Panther 2 was a very good movie and the super hero parts were not good.
Jrocker-ame2025-11-16 00:42
Fair enough. Just a agree to disagree moment.
Smaptey2025-11-16 00:28
Each movie somehow had the worst cgi slop endings of all the MCU
CutMeLoose792025-11-16 00:30
Yeah the endings to both were very disappointing
Buhos_En_Pantelones2025-11-16 00:30
I thought Shuri's character in the sequel was way more compelling than T'Challa was in the first.
speedfreak4442025-11-16 00:40
Yeah it is unfortunate that it really was focused on the supporting cast and he didn’t get a ton of time to shine. He was also believed to be dead for a significant chunk of the movie.
I agree that Shuri really impressed me as a character in 2. T’Challa did get lots more cool superhero stuff in 1 though.
Admirable-Shift-96312025-11-16 00:19
Super excited i freaking loved BP2 and i'm excited to see where Shuri's story goes
justafanboy10102025-11-16 00:21
Me too! Can’t wait to see her in Doomsday first tho!
ZenithGamage2025-11-16 00:23
Ikr! Very underrated movie
Rising-Jay2025-11-16 00:42
Yeah it’s a phenomenal movie, wish folks were able to see its triumphs more clearly despite everything
Dan_Of_Time2025-11-16 00:51
I think the problem is that final act is where most of the complaints come from, and because it’s the last part of the movie it kind of ruins the first part that was good.
At least that’s how it was for me. I remember loving it halfway through and then hating it by the end, when k rewatched it I actually stopped watching the final fight halfway through because I had no reason to watch it again.
GoldenNinja30002025-11-16 00:50
Same here, I LOVE Wakanda Forever and what Coogler did with Shuri’s character development. Really hoping she has a good role in Doomsday and while I also think T’Challa’s son will age up, I hope Shuri is still active as Black Panther alongside him.
N8CCRG2025-11-16 02:17
Neither BP movie is in my top five, but after my latest rewatch, Wakanda Forever is better looking and more character driven than BP1 was. BP1 was too focused on "Wakanda is so cool! Look how cool it is!" which it was, but since then we've seen Wakanda in multiple projects and so it's just not as noteworthy anymore.
thr0waway24352025-11-16 08:12
I freaking loved that movie. It is definitely in my MCU top 5. Frankly I think I liked it better than the first, Shuri’s character arc was so good, Namor was a fantastic villain, every single actor/actress killed it. The religious themes, colonization themes, conversation about grief, all fantastic.
Yes the final battle was a bit ridiculous, and the Riri introduction a bit awkward, but goddamn that movie NAILED the key themes and emotional moments.
justafanboy10102025-11-16 00:23
Always excited to see more Black Panther content. Can’t wait to see what happens! And what’s going on with Denzel’s character
mrcolter512025-11-16 00:27
How positive are we that Damson Idris will play the son of T'Challa?
akodini2025-11-16 01:45
I think he takes Bond instead.
dpittnet2025-11-16 01:53
Bond won’t be on the table
N8CCRG2025-11-16 02:05
Zero positive. That's still just one fan-casting.
FerrusManlyManus2025-11-16 03:10
Yup literally zero positive.
It’s fan casting plus he was at a non Marvel fashion event with Angela Basset.
Special-Outcome-32332025-11-16 00:27
I thought they made three
s_walsh2025-11-16 00:29
I think Black Panther 2 was Cooglers worst movie (Although he was dealt an impossible task continuing without Chadwick) so I'm ready for him to be done with Marvel so he can focus on original stuff full time
Degan7472025-11-16 00:41
Yeah, but if Chadwick hadn’t passed, do you really think it would have been his worst movie?
Nightwing06132025-11-16 00:49
He could’ve delayed the movie, waited a year or so. Recast the role with a new actor
fisheggsoup2025-11-16 05:05
It was delayed.
joseph_jojo_shabadoo2025-11-16 00:31
Sinners was by far the most interesting thing Coogler has done. Kinda bummed he’s going back to MCU. I wanted to see him continue to branch out and grow as a filmmaker, now he’ll be stuck in development of this for the new several years
EffectzHD2025-11-16 01:44
If his machine is as smooth as I think it is he could start filming early 27, I don’t think that’s bad at all
Strawberry_House2025-11-16 00:31
Am I the only one who is fine with them not recasting T'Challa? I think focusing on the other Wakandans is probably the best solution they could do
Fat_Stacks12025-11-16 00:31
They should have replaced the Chadwick after he died.
Wakanda forever sucked.
lolas_coffee2025-11-16 00:32
I hope this one is good.
I know this sub will never be objective about it, but BP2 was lame and it did not need to be.
It was 100% made for not very bright people.
We deserve better. CB deserves better.
PresentationIll21802025-11-16 00:35
Is Damson confirmed?
Notoriously_So2025-11-16 00:40
Awesome.
Shadowrocket03152025-11-16 00:40
I know it was thing in the comics, but Shuri taking on the mantle didn't work for me. So I'm echoing the sentiment of using Secret Wars as an excuse to introduce a T'Challa variant or age up Junior.
LongjumpingEbb23452025-11-16 03:16
Yea, Shuri only held the comics temporarily so her giving it back to T’Challa is as accurate as her getting it in the first place. She is not the definitive Panther, T’Challa carries well over 90% of the lore and iconic stories.
danohaggard2025-11-16 00:41
Should had recast with John David Washington instead of giving the comedic relief her own movie
canadiancarlin2025-11-16 00:43
Finally! The people spoke, and he listened! Which people? I have no idea.
TypeExpert2025-11-16 00:58
No offense to shuri/ Letitia Wright, but but my interest in this movie hinges entirely on if it focuses on a new version of T'Challa or not.
LameDrain2025-11-16 01:00
Honestly I’d rather see him do his win original work like Sinners. He’s far too talented to be limited by a mediocre mcu film.
Nighthawk694202025-11-16 01:12
Agreed and I say that as someone who loved both Black Panthers. Give him a blank check and let him come up with something original.
_Levitated_Shield_2025-11-16 02:11
He's clearly very passionate about his work bringing Wakanda to life.
Plus who says BP3 will stop him from creating other films?
mr_mayon2025-11-16 01:12
Lame.
Grayx_28872025-11-16 01:14
I know it's not going to be the same without Chadwick Boseman. But we just need to be sure that they find a stronger actor to play his character's son from a future timeline.
TylerBourbon2025-11-16 01:16
Black Panther 3 will mark the first time a trilogy came into existence with it's title character only appearing in a single film.
I loved the actor, and his passing was sad, but just recast the damn role.
N8CCRG2025-11-16 02:14
Black Panther appeared in Civil War, Black Panther, Infinity War, Endgame, and Wakanda Forever. T'Challa appeared in four of those five.
Godphase32025-11-16 03:54
They did "recast the role", in that the title "Black Panther" has always been passed between different characters, and it did to someone else in Wakanda Forever. You're simply wrong.
But if you do mean recast T'challa son of T'chaka the guy we saw trying to catch Bucky in Civil War and who helped The Avengers try to make a stand against Thanos in Wakanda during Infinity War, that also doesn't make sense because that character died. That's what happened in the story that was told.
Are you saying what you want is for Black Panther 3 to have a guy who isn't Chadwick Boseman appear and say "Somehow I, T'challa, have returned from the dead but I'm definitely still the exact same guy you remember from before. All the events related to my passing that happened in Wakanda Forever can now just be ignored and we pretend none of that ever happened." And that this would be a good thing?
CaptHayfever2025-11-16 05:08
There is a Black Panther in Black Panther 2. Don't make stuff up.
NervousAd32022025-11-16 07:43
You say “will mark” as if you know for a fact they aren’t giving us a new T’Challa
Rubbishtv2025-11-16 02:06
Might be an unpopular opinion but I honestly thought wakanda forever was a way better movie than bp. Yeah Bosmans presence is absolutely missed but I thought they did a great job investing us in the idea of Shuri being black panther going forward and I think it would be a sign of distrust in her as a character to just recast tchalla.
N8CCRG2025-11-16 02:13
Good lord, reading through these comments, this fandom is insufferable about speculation and fan theories that it decides have already happened.
CaptHayfever2025-11-16 05:10
No kidding! The misogynoir is real, & it is *embarrassing.*
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-11-16 09:21
What misogynoir
Free-Bar-27192025-11-16 14:14
Wanting the main character to be present in his own story is apparently misogynoir here.
blac_sheep902025-11-16 02:28
Maybe no Shuri this time? Perhaps Nakia is the The Black Panther?
pentagraphik2025-11-16 03:42
Al menos la segunda parte fue mediante entretenida, incluso con el mediocre CGI. La primera es aburrida de cojones por no decir una completa mierda.
Nonadventures2025-11-16 04:53
Jesus some of the Redditors in this thread have terrible ideas. I’ll defer to the guy has a great batting average over this brain trust.
Huckleberry_Sin2025-11-17 00:27
I can swear I’ve seen all these comments word for word and this post before. Is this all astroturfed or am I having the wildest episode of deja vu I’ve ever had?
Dchama862025-11-16 06:38
Recast T’Challa please
Powerful-Bowl60002025-11-16 09:18
I hope Storm is in BP3.
Substantial_Fun_57662025-11-16 09:45
I think they might as well wrap it up. Coogler, Moore and Disney have turned both BP and Wakanda into a joke. The 2nd film failed to turn a profit even though Disney will never admit it. I don't think they'll improve much with a 3rd film. The Russo brothers should have hired to work on BP. They made T'Challa an awesome character.
hammy_6942025-11-16 10:57
Is anyone really asking for a 3rd Black Panther movie?!
SamXTeck2025-11-16 12:18
Take my money now
Free-Bar-27192025-11-16 14:01
As long as T’challa(the titular character of the franchise returns) is in it I’ll be there. If not, I really don’t care.
Commentaires
It still won't feel the same without him.
But it will feel different.
It’d be like if Sam Jackson unfortunately passed but people just expected Nick Fury to be immediately recast, and that’s even to a lesser degree because that character is less prominent and didn’t have a solo film that was hugely successful. It was a very special moment in time for a lot of people, and Chadwick is a HUGE part of that whether some folks understand it or not
But I have still enjoyed and loved the versions that Tom Welling, Brandon Routh, Henry Cavill, Tyler Hoechlin & David Corenswet all played
These characters have been around for decades and should not be sidelined in film just because an actor passed away.
Yes, Chadwick is a great actor and a fantastic Black Panther. But the role should not die with him. They should have recasted the role with another actor. I get not doing it right away. Delay the movie, wait a year or so, recast and I guarantee you that Black Panther 2 would’ve been a hell of a lot better with T’Challa fighting Namor.
They had no issue recasting William Hurt’s character Thunderbolt Ross with Harrison Ford when he passed away from Cancer as well & this was after Chadwick.
I’m still in the side that they should recast. Bring in another actor and make it so this new T’Challa is from the past or from the multiverse. I don’t care. We just need T’Challa
Way to not get a tribute because you can't stop glazing Marvel.
“He was king and Black Panther to everyone, but to me he was everything. My T’Challa.” – Nakia
"Kevin Feige has confirmed the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) will undergo a "reset" after Avengers: Secret Wars, though he avoids the term "reboot". This reset will streamline the timeline and introduce a new era, which includes recasting major roles"
What does reset means?
"Kevin Feige has confirmed the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) will undergo a "reset" after Avengers: Secret Wars, though he avoids the term "reboot". This reset will streamline the timeline and introduce a new era, which includes recasting major roles"
Hopefully it will result in a more impactful story with more room for character development and actual consequences, while also being easier to follow for casuals.
So, with that we can assume the movies will introduce alternate versions of nearly every character. Each one will have their own origin story that can be explored after their introduction in Secret Wars. Some characters wouldn't need a whole movie to explain their origin, while I'm sure some would be fertile grounds for money or writing.
This also allows characters to be entirely recast with the same exact origin.
This is what reset vs reboot means.
Phase 1-3 were great because it felt like a serious shared scifi universe where earth was very much a tiny underdog and what was out there was mysterious and dangerous, tied together by the secret government agency shield.
Then they just started throwing more and more stuff in without connecting any of it together, like wizards, sword, a bunch of different magical factions or whatever, and none of it feels connected or cohesive or important anymore. IMO it started with the first Dr Strange movie which did a terrible job of retconning the wizards into the universe, compared to the great job which things like Antman and Captain America did, and since then it's all just become disconnected random nonsense and such absurdly inconsistent multiverse stuff that none of it matters anymore.
The random addition of places like Madripoor without a good explanation really began to wear at this as well.
The movie & the timeline in general can be whatever they want
How do you handle a Black Panther film being set in the future of the MCU, because T'Challa Jr would still be a kid in the present of the MCU.
Kind of the opposite approach to Spider-Man. Both were established as already powered and active in Civil War and Spidey didn't get an origin movie.
Complex character with both incredible virtue and serious flaws, who handles trauma realistically, who has dynamic heartfelt relationships (T’Challa, her mother, Namor) and interesting themes/conflicts (her atheism in a deeply religious society). And whatever you say about Letitia Wright’s off-screen antics, you cannot deny she’s a damn good actress.
I like her more than I like any of the new gen heroes except Spidey and Yelena. Maybe John Walker.
Edit. Civil war not winter soldier. But he had a cameo and headlined a movie before infinity war, so he doesn’t feel as new gen as some others.
That’s a unlikely because Ryan Coogler is involved with everything Wakanda
Also, I think it would be good to have a different voice. Coogler is a good director but I do think he's slightly overrated.
I thought the action scenes could have been better handled, sometimes the set looked cheap especially the museum scene. Both panther movies have pacing issues.
To answer your other question, the performance of Chadwick was better in CW, there was a certain arrogance in the way he performed which was missing in BP.
First one certainly wasn’t bad, but the second one I thought was pretty awful in parts.
I get some people get invested because of Chadwick, but as an actual piece of entertainment (which is what I saw it for), I thought it was pretty crappy. One of the few Marvel movies I’ve never cared to watch again.
Emotional parts aren’t an issue as I loved Infinity War and Endgame. I just don’t think Black Panther 2 was a very good movie and the super hero parts were not good.
I agree that Shuri really impressed me as a character in 2. T’Challa did get lots more cool superhero stuff in 1 though.
At least that’s how it was for me. I remember loving it halfway through and then hating it by the end, when k rewatched it I actually stopped watching the final fight halfway through because I had no reason to watch it again.
Yes the final battle was a bit ridiculous, and the Riri introduction a bit awkward, but goddamn that movie NAILED the key themes and emotional moments.
It’s fan casting plus he was at a non Marvel fashion event with Angela Basset.
Wakanda forever sucked.
I know this sub will never be objective about it, but BP2 was lame and it did not need to be.
It was 100% made for not very bright people.
We deserve better. CB deserves better.
Plus who says BP3 will stop him from creating other films?
I loved the actor, and his passing was sad, but just recast the damn role.
But if you do mean recast T'challa son of T'chaka the guy we saw trying to catch Bucky in Civil War and who helped The Avengers try to make a stand against Thanos in Wakanda during Infinity War, that also doesn't make sense because that character died. That's what happened in the story that was told.
Are you saying what you want is for Black Panther 3 to have a guy who isn't Chadwick Boseman appear and say "Somehow I, T'challa, have returned from the dead but I'm definitely still the exact same guy you remember from before. All the events related to my passing that happened in Wakanda Forever can now just be ignored and we pretend none of that ever happened." And that this would be a good thing?