I hope that the MCU X-Men movies take notes from First Class on the dynamic between Charles and Erik.

X-Men: First Class is one of the best X-Men movies from the franchise, and I don't think that's a question. It's up there with X2: X-Men: United and X-Men: Days Of Future Past, but one of the things it did perfectly was the dynamic between Charles and Erik. They were written wonderfully, and the acting by James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender was amazing. They start out completely different, but come together as people with common goals, but over the course of the film, their paths diverge and so do their ideals, but they still maintain that respect for each other. Obviously, that didn't originate in First Class, but First Class did it so perfectly, so when the time comes for the MCU's X-Men, they should certainly take notes on how First Class did the dynamic between Charles and Erik.

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TommyTheGeek2025-11-15 07:47

I would be perfectly fine with never having to focus on this relationship ever again.

ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-15 08:33

And it seems like they won’t based on what Kevin Feige has said in interviews about wanting to do different things with the X-Men.

marvelcomics222025-11-15 09:02

Charles and Erik are main X-Men characters, but if they want to focus on Scott, Jean, and the other younger X-Men, that would still be great.

ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-16 05:33

Actually, the comics tend to not focus on Xavier that much. He stopped being the leader of the X-Men in the 80s and was more of a supporting character until the 2020s.

shogi_x2025-11-15 07:52

Most people say Days of Future Past but IMO First Class was the best of the Fox prequels. There was something pure and bold about watching the team come together on their first mission.

Charles and Erik's relationship was beautiful and really cements the tragedy of their feud.

marvelcomics222025-11-15 08:02

'Prequels' is an interesting word to describe those later Fox movies, but I agree that First Class was better than Days Of Future Past, for many reasons, but one of the main ones being that the tone was pretty lighthearted for the most part, but when it was serious, it was *serious*.

Market_Massive2025-11-15 08:45

Don’t know what else you would call First Class if not a prequel. Like pretty much all the X-Men films, the continuity is inconsistent but DOFP confirms it takes place in the same timeline as the original trilogy.

marvelcomics222025-11-15 09:04

First Class is a prequel, sorry if what I said came off as otherwise, but the three movies that followed aren't really prequels.

Market_Massive2025-11-15 09:05

Ah. I understand you now. Apologies, that’s on me.

ultranonymous112025-11-15 16:53

Aren’t they? Basically sequels to a prequel?

marvelcomics222025-11-15 17:50

Despite being set chronologically before the original X-Men films, both take place in different timelines, and their versions of the X-Men aren't just younger versions of the original cast.

ultranonymous112025-11-15 18:09

Except for Logan for some reason?

And wait so First Class is the same “timeline” as the original X-Men movies (and therefore different from the newest ones), despite having the same cast as the ones it’s not related to? That’s very confusing!

Market_Massive2025-11-16 00:14

Best to just think of it as…

First Class, X-Men Origins, X-Men, X2, X-Men: The Last Stand, The Wolverine, and DOFP as one timeline.

Apocalypse, New Mutants, Dark Phoenix, and Logan (although Logan can just be considered its own thing) as the new timeline shown at the end of DOFP.

Deadpool films shouldn’t be taken seriously in the continuity but I guess if you really wanted, you can set them in the new timeline around Apocalypse due to the X-Men cameo in Deadpool 2. This would also line up with the inclusion of Logan due to Deadpool and Wolverine.

ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-16 05:40

>although Logan can just be considered its own thing

It can’t be after Deadpool & Wolverine.

Market_Massive2025-11-16 05:41

True. I realized that while typing.

marvelcomics222025-11-16 05:55

If you look at it in the MCU Branching timeline way, Wolverine creates a branch in Days Of Future Past (after the events of First Class happen, but before anything else), and everything after that is set in a new timeline.

Pheonyx19742025-11-15 12:15

DOFP created a REBOOT of the movie series. Making EVERYTHING released before its release ( with the exception of First Class) as non canon.

Earth 10005 (X-Men): Wade Wilson Crosses to The Sacred Timeline

X-Men: First Class (1962)

X-Men: Days Of Future Past (1973 Events)

X-Men Apocalypse (1983)

Dark Phoenix (1992)

Deadpool (2016)

Deadpool: No Good Deed (2017)

Deadpool 2: Movie Bookends (2018)

Deadpool And Wolverine (2024) MCU Phase Five

The New Mutants (Late 2020’s)

Logan (2029) D&W places this in the future of Earth 10005

Earth TRN414 (X-Men): Originally 10005 Events Unwritten by DoFP

X-Men Origins: Wolverine (1979)

X-Men (2003)

X2: X-Men United (2003)

X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)

The Wolverine (2013)

X-Men: Days Of Future Past (Rogue Cut)+ (2023 Events)

Nicotecu2025-11-15 08:22

For real. First Class is my absolute favourite superhero movie, I truly think they should never have returned to Singer.

Afraid_Trick_59192025-11-15 09:10

for sure, their connection made the fallout way more tragic and impactful than the others

Novel-Feed67962025-11-15 09:16

Real I dont even like the X men franchise that much, but as a standalone film I LOVE X-men first class, one of the best superheroes movies IMO...

Far-Pineapple-27592025-11-15 11:02

totally agree, their friendship made the whole thing hit way harder in the end

jsnxander2025-11-15 22:26

Both were strong movies. Erik/Magneto has a fully developed arc that adds real gravitas to his character and his role as an antagonist/anti-hero. I hope the MCU doesn't muck with Magneto's origins but instead finds a get him to the MCU with some crazy time-time/whatever thing. Hell even a consciousness transfer. Anything but removing his concentration camp survivor origin.

pbj_everyday2025-11-15 07:55

I hope the MCU takes notes from the X-Men comics and realizes Xavier is the most boring character and writes him out at every opportunity

ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-15 08:31

I highly doubt Marvel even wants to focus on that based on what Kevin Feige has said in interviews.

SethNex2025-11-15 18:42

What did he said?

ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-16 05:07

He said that they want to differentiate from Fox’s X-Men and not redo what came before.

GeneQuadruplehorn2025-11-15 11:42

the Erik/Charles, and Hellfire Club stuff are the only good parts of First Class.

Pheonyx19742025-11-15 12:10

I personally prefer the antagonistic friendship of the reboot movie characters to the good/bad feel of the original movie characters.

BryanDowling932025-11-15 12:35

I hope they explore that Professor Xavier is actually kind of a jerk like in the comics. The idea of Xavier being this absolute saint with no flaws came from the animated show and the films. There are numerous occasions in the comics where Xavier can be so tunnel visioned and self-righteous that border on mean-spiritedness, which other X-Men members (such as Kitty Pryde and leader Cyclops) then call him out on his bullshit. Then there is David Haller/Legion. Who he was an absentee father to until David was pretty much an adult. And even then they never had a great relationship after they met.

Don't get me wrong. He is still an important part of the X-Men and his message inspires the Mutant Freedom movement. But read an X-Men comic and you'll see that Xavier is a lot more complicated as a character.

Gumichi2025-11-15 13:21

I can appreciate that. Still, I come from just watching the old 92 cartoon. There Xavier worked as the flawless saint as you said. So much so that the McAvoy portrayal felt alien to me, for better or worse. No doubt, Xavier has a long history in the comics. While the concept of him being more rounded might be compelling. I think it's important that there be a solid moral foundation for an Xmen team. I'd prefer to establish a status-quo before we challenge it. We can't do Dark Xavier for Onslaught if Xavier is the basically the same person.

Dyleemo2025-11-15 12:55

But hopefully not on Emma Frost, unless it's to learn from her depiction.

i_like_cake_962025-11-15 14:54

i hope they hire fassbended and McAvoy... Fox nailed the casting for the OG class and the first class...

ComprehensiveYam51062025-11-15 17:49

I also loved me some White Queen!