I hope we have baron zemo in thunderbolts sequel

Now I don't know if a sequel will be made or not but I hope it's makes and if they make hope they include baron zemo as either leader of the team or vice leader .
I feel like they should have included him in first movie tho .

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rubyschnees2025-11-14 19:07

why on earth would this guy be the leader over yelena? she clears him in every metric

sm_8922025-11-14 20:39

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cheezyfilms2025-11-14 20:49

Because they're clearly not going the route of having this be a villain team. And Yelena has more development than Natasha ever did in the MCU

PhosphoFred82022025-11-14 20:59

Temu Black Widow vs the guy who successfully destroyed the Avengers through planning, strategy and manipulation

Responsible_Egg75192025-11-14 21:03

Temu? Yelena is far better written than Natasha ever was

Grayx_28872025-11-14 19:17

Under the condition that he has a more comic book- accurate looking suit and a far better mask than that shit he wore on his face in *"Falcon and the Winter Soldier."* Like seriously, 200 million dollars, and this is the best that they can come up with?!

But you know what I would love to see in a future follow-up to the first Thunderbolts movie?! Helmut Zemo leading a group of criminals pretending to be heroes just to gain all of the attention away for the Avengers. I don't give a damn who is on the roster of the newer Avengers at this point. If I don't see the real Thunderbolts from the comics being led by Zemo in the sequel, I am going to be very, very, very, **VERY** pissed off.

TheMikey22072025-11-14 19:45

The MCU isn’t the comics. Things can be different and it’s fine. People need to accept it, have fun and enjoy it.

The MCU mask is fine and the team being lead by Yelana works for the narrative and her character.

Not everything has to be 1:1 from the comics. The comics are always there for you to read and enjoy. The movies can do original things that haven’t been done and create new stories.

Mizerous2025-11-15 00:25

But then they tried making Zemo a Baron like the comics.

icorrectpettydetails2025-11-14 21:12

Movie Zemo's mask is the kind of identity hiding balaclava that a member of a paramilitary death squad like EKO Scorpion might wear. Comic Zemo's mask is a turtleneck pulled up too high.

2reeEyedG2025-11-14 19:20

He’s a great character and there’s a lot of comedy there too with his type of personality

Responsible_Egg75192025-11-14 19:21

Why would he be the leader? Yelena is very clearly the leader, with Bucky closely advising her. And regardless, one of the main purposes of the team is protecting + helping Bob, an uncontrollable and unstoppable enhanced person whose entire existence is the very thing Zemo was afraid of and tried to prevent by destroying the serums. Zemo would most definitely want him dead or, at the very least, incapacitated in some way, so I don’t see the him and the Thunderbolts ever getting along because of that. However, I do think he would make good antagonist and would offer some interesting dynamics

mrbaryonyx2025-11-14 20:14

yeah, in the original comics, Zemo was the leader for a while and it wasn't a very good arc. he literally betrayed the team because he got mad they "weren't being evil enough", which is just stupid

Chrisjay52802025-11-14 20:53

Quasi-evil

Bruhimonlyeleven2025-11-14 21:22

Zemo would settle for containing him, knowing he couldn't kill him.

I think if eh could be killed, the sensible thing would be to kill him. Bob's a nuke, with a hair trigger, that the world plays hot potatoe with. He literally can help in any scenario, or he will flip out.

You could argue you could use Bob quickly to save the world, and then go pull him out of the void, but that's not always going to work. Or maybe it will idk.

You would think that once Bob has built himself up, finds a working medication, and gets his depressin under control, the void would fuck off though

Responsible_Egg75192025-11-14 21:49

I don’t even know if it would be possible to contain him aside from using magic or putting him back in that stasis pod thing. Even the straitjacket + shock collar combo that The Raft used for Wanda wouldn’t work because Bob isn’t affected by electricity and can melt shit simply by looking at it.

I think getting his self esteem up and trying to heal from the abuse he suffered would also help him. The problem is that he has both his depression and mania to contend with, and it’s cyclical so it’s always going to come back

Bruhimonlyeleven2025-11-15 01:37

Yeah. I mean, he can't overdose, right? There's a reasonable dose of oxycodone he could take daily, that will help with depression. Lol.

At least in the short term, opioid abuse can be a cure for depression. Lol. (To anyone reading this, drugs are bad, this is a scenario where they would suffer zero health problems.)

Light his ass up with MDMA, psilocybin, and oxy whenever you send him on a mission. 😂 All of which are extremely effective for treating short term depression. The void would fuck off for a while at least, while Bob Candytripped his way to victory.

solospiderknight2025-11-14 19:28

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exprssve2025-11-14 20:31

The Thunderbolts don't exist they're the Avengerz

solospiderknight2025-11-14 21:41

You're not wrong

sm_8922025-11-15 06:26

They won’t be avengers or z with end of Sam Wilson s cap won the lawsuit

Defiant_Wheel48882025-11-14 19:28

He has to gather team of super villans not a heros

Grayx_28872025-11-14 19:40

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Defiant_Wheel48882025-11-14 19:45

so what is your point then? he is hero or wht??

Grayx_28872025-11-14 19:56

His goal of leading the Thunderbolts in the comics and in other forms of media was to gain attention away from the Avengers while he was **pretending** to be a hero in disguise. His comic counterpart still has a history with Captain America. MCU's Zemo, well... he only wanted to cripple the Avengers because of what happened to his family in Sakovia (Age of Ultron and Captain America: Civil War). Now, his history with Bucky Barnes and Sam Wilson in the MCU, yeah, it doesn't have that same weight as his grudge with the Avengers in Civil War. Now, if he wanted to stick it to the newer team of Avengers. Whether it's Sam Wilson's team or Yolena and Bucky's team, he should probably trademark the name of either the Mighty Avengers or the Dark Avengers. Avengers: West Coast, no.

Defiant_Wheel48882025-11-15 02:27

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Majestic-Marcus2025-11-14 22:07

That doesn’t make sense in the MCU.

He hates supes.

Defiant_Wheel48882025-11-15 02:27

He hate super soldiers not supes. both are differnet man.

Majestic-Marcus2025-11-15 10:43

No. He hates anything super. He made that clear in civil war.

He didn’t break up Bucky and cap. He broke up the avengers

Defiant_Wheel48882025-11-15 14:37

Kindly google and watch correct film friend. he want to make revenge on captain america. he is not JJJ to hate supes or superman villan

Majestic-Marcus2025-11-15 15:49

Not once did he say he was targeting Captain America. He was targeting The Avengers.

If anything Zemo recognises Steve Rogers as the exception that proves the rule.

Defiant_Wheel48882025-11-15 16:03

ok I agree friend. you won.

NickDynmo2025-11-14 19:58

If he ever comes back I hope he keeps his mask on longer than five seconds.

ArmadilloOk14452025-11-14 20:26

Hot take but I am so sick of everyone glazing the OG comics Thunderbolts with Zemo and the villains pretending to be heroes, yes it was a good concept and we got one of my favorite Marvel characters (Moonstone) out of it, but there are other Thunderbolts eras, I much prefer Osborn's Thunderbolts, Luke Cage's Thunderbolts, the New Thunderbolts\* in the comics, the Devil's Reign Thunderbolts and yes, even the MCU Thunderbolts to the OG ones. Hell, Thunderbolts Red is my favorite team in all of Marvel

Edit addendum: Screw it, here's a little tier list of every Thunderbolts lineup in my opinion

S: Red

A: Osborn's, New\*, Devil's Reign, Cage's

B: MCU, OG, King in Black

C: Civil War, Bucky's, Bucky's New, Mayor Fisk's

D: Dark Reign, Hawkeye's, MACH-IV's

Yamato432025-11-16 01:39

Forgive me I’m not very comic book familiar, which one had Sharon as a member?

crap-zapper2025-11-16 11:54

Google told me Bucky’s new.

Yamato432025-11-19 09:48

Thanks! :)

ArmadilloOk14452025-11-16 13:21

The other guy is correct, that was Bucky's New Thunderbolts, which was very early Multiverse Saga themed because they knew the MCU would be doing a Thunderbolts movie in a few years, it was led by Bucky and the other members were Black Widow, White Widow (Yelena's codename in the comics), US Agent, Red Guardian, Shang-Chi, Sharon Carter and a Life Model Replica of Valentina, it's just the MCU team but worse because it has comic Yelena and Alexei instead of their MCU counterparts, at least it has Shang-Chi though

Yamato432025-11-19 07:53

Thanks for confirming! :) If you don’t mind me asking, how’s Sharon in it?

ArmadilloOk14452025-11-19 18:03

IDK bruh I didn't read it, and even if I did I don't read Sharon Carter often so I wouldn't have a good point of reference

Desperate-Pen75302025-11-14 23:34

Hoping that the Thunderbolts get hijacked by the Masters of evil, and we get Dark Avengers

This should follow secret wars

boyawsome8762025-11-14 23:40

I think he should be the villain not the leader

Sncrsly2025-11-15 03:19

Assuming there is a sequel

Standard_Major39902025-11-15 04:23

Nextdoor is thunderbolt Ross the former president and they get to talking lol

No-Jello-41542025-11-15 06:24

I hope we have a thunderbolts sequel

Ok-Average-64662025-11-15 22:39

Have him lead a actual Thunderbolts team.

sultan33g2025-11-17 13:34

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