Did Kevin Feige’s love of Rick and Morty and his reactionary hiring of its writing staff hurt the MCU?

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Top-Buffalo-98672025-11-13 18:58

If you’re talking Ant Man 3? Yes.

Ok_Atmosphere82062025-11-13 18:58

…what? Is this a joke? Or are you just angry the MCU has jokes in it like everyone else?

And even then the MCU doesn’t have Rick and Morty types of jokes so that doesn’t make sense either

Significant_Silver992025-11-13 19:01

Quantumania felt like a live action Rick and Morty episode

Available_Hurry2932025-11-13 19:11

No, except it's Sci fi

jtides2025-11-13 19:11

Multiple writers from Rick & Morty have been brought on to write MCU movies. Quantumania being one, Jeff Loveness. Another being Michael Waldron doing Loki

eagc72025-11-13 22:05

OP is not talking about the jokes, but more if the writers they hired to tackle some of the projects were really the best people for the job

notanewbiedude2025-11-13 18:58

okay buddy

Xekshek332025-11-13 18:58

walkinmermaid2025-11-13 18:59

Maybe. Random stories, no crossovers, 1000 new characters, no continuation. This MCU era was all over the place. Also, I hate that they went the multiverse route ever since it was announced. I thought it was way too early for that. They should’ve had at least one more saga before a multiverse saga.

Delicious-Explorer582025-11-13 18:59

Yeah, he brought on writers that are good at deconstructing genre tropes… but not so great at actually writing stories.

They also brought the wrong type of humor to the MCU and didn’t understand how to respect the main characters (since Rick and Morty is all about how the main characters are all awful).

MegaDuckCougarBoy2025-11-13 19:01

I'm gonna say no. Rick and Morty, terrible fanbase aside, is very capable of being dark and serious in amidst its wackiness. The problem with Quantumania wasn't the writer's CV, it was lack of directorial vision and editing.

SeekerVash2025-11-13 21:34

The problem was very much with the writers.

I mean seriously, it's a movie where Janet casually admits to adultery in front of Hank and Hope and neither one blinks or shows a hint of emotion.

It takes an uncommonly bad writer to come up with that.

FewWatermelonlesson02025-11-13 19:03

The writers themselves weren’t so much the problem as the fact that they were putting out way too much content and working off very half-baked scripts.

thecab0022025-11-13 19:03

No. The writers are talented, the issue is alot deeper than just “rick and morty writers”

Serawasneva2025-11-13 19:03

Yes.

JaesopPop2025-11-13 19:05

“Reactionary hiring”?

unreasonable-frog2025-11-13 19:08

No.

Own_Giraffe_69282025-11-13 19:16

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MarcSpector17012025-11-13 21:07

Waldron wrote Multiverse of Madness, had the idea for Wanda being the villain, and portrayed her as a relentless unstoppable murdering monster. He went too far and didn't give adequate screen time to Wanda's evolution from who she was at the end of Wandavision to his new villainous version. Though it's possible Sam Raimi had something to do with this too. Although Wanda's too sudden and too drastic character turn is the one universal complaint about the movie, Waldron just doesn't seem to get it.

Own_Giraffe_69282025-11-13 21:19

Maybe so. But that doesn't change the fact that MoM was a smash hit that most audiences seemed to enjoy. Same for Loki.

SpiritGator2025-11-13 23:04

When you say Wanda's turn was too sudden and too drastic, are you only including her arc in MOM? Was she not already trending that way by mentally incapacitating in entire town and then running away? She was a villain protagonist in her own show. I would argue that they were very deliberate with how she turned. Her man gets killed and she gets snapped. The first thing she did was try to destroy Thanos - not to save the world but to get revenge. And that's important because once she discovers the deed that Vision had purchased in Westview, plus being manipulated about his body, I think you can see that she was not in the best head space. Yes, Monica was able to talk her down but that was only after Agatha tried to turn her even further. Maybe you needed to see something in between her speed reading the Darkhold and the beginning of MOM but her character has always seemed to be driven by some sort of revenge - even back to Ultron with her revenge arc against Stark who she never really trusted.

MarcSpector17012025-11-14 05:52

Yeah, but then she was outright murdering innocent people in MOM and it was just way too much of a crazy turn without us seeing some more of how she had evolved into this new person. Remember at the end of Wandavision she let all the people in Westview go. After she defeated Agatha she could have recreated the whole scenario all over again and nothing would have gone wrong this time without Agatha around to screw it up. Wanda could have re-enslaved Westview but this time it would have been perfect forever. Instead she sacrificed her children and Vision. To go from that person to the crazy mass murderer she was in MOM was too great a leap without more scenes showing her succumbing to the Darkhold and to her despair.

SpiritGator2025-11-14 19:33

Not the first time she murdered innocents (on purpose or not). I'm sure those 13 Wakandans that died at the beginning of Civil War would like to know if they were innocent or not. If Agatha hadn't lifted the veil on the citizens of Westview, who knows if Wanda would have actually let go of the rope. If Agatha wasn't there trying to steal her power, no one was going to stop her. In other words, it took a worse person to stop her and that was before she was corrupted by the Darkhold. Which is huge. Every instance in the MCU of the Darkhold being used - Agents of Shield season 4, The Runaways season 3 - has ended with the human being corrupted killing innocents.

MarcSpector17012025-11-14 21:04

There's a big difference between the Wakandans who died in Civil War due to a mistake on Wanda's part while she was trying to stop an explosion, versus the people she outright deliberately killed in MOM. And Agents of SHIELD and Runaways aren't shows you can assume everyone has seen.

SpiritGator2025-11-14 21:49

And the similarities are that neither group had to die. The wakandans died because Crossbones caught Steve off guard talking about Bucky. The "innocents" in MOM died because they didn't give her what she wanted. They were protecting America. They weren't defenseless children.

Also, ignorance is not an excuse. Just because people haven't seen either show doesn't mean they don't exist.

icorrectpettydetails2025-11-13 22:20

Waldron also wrote *one* episode of *Rick and Morty*. He was an intern on the show, then became an assistant writer on *Community*, a show with maaaaaaaany other connections to the MCU, then went back to producing *R&M* before writing the single episode he is credited for.

Arkodd2025-11-13 19:17

Yes. Feige made lots of bad decisions. Only now MCU is coming back on it's foot with F4 and Thunderbolts but will it ever reach the reputation of the Endgame era again? We have to see how Doomsday turns out.