Can she counter the snap even without the darkhold?
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Remote-Direction9632025-11-12 15:55
NO, the Infinity Stones operate on a cosmic scale beyond even her chaos magic. She could destroy a stone, as seen in Infinity War, but reversing the will of all six combined is another level entirely. Without the Darkhold amplifying her power, she’s devastatingly strong, but not universal.
Divi12212025-11-12 15:57
No
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-12 16:02
Obviously not 🙄 and not with the Darkhold either. Wanda is strong but the overglazing has to stop
who1sJosh2025-11-12 16:09
Her stans think she’s The One Above All
Shaudius2025-11-12 17:50
You could have just said you're not familiar with the comics and left it at that.
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-12 17:52
This isn’t the comics genius
Shaudius2025-11-12 17:52
And yet you're convinced the answer is no and somehow thinking yes is "overglazing" with no basis in anything at all.
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-12 17:54
What? Nothing she’s done in the movies suggests she could counter the snap with or without the Darkhold
Shaudius2025-11-12 17:56
So destroying the book of vishanti and destroying every copy of the darkhold across the multiverse is just run of the mill powers?
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-12 18:00
Not saying it’s “run of the mill” but it’s not the same level as the snap from the infinity stones. Destroying the Book of **Vishanti** (maybe get the name right before you talk about it) is impressive but to destroy the Darkholds, she just destroyed one building.
Lots of heroes can destroy a building. And there are at least a few other heroes who have the raw power that could likely destroy the Book of Vishanti as well.
spidervenom6192025-11-13 08:51
Wanda was going to destroy a Infinity Stone and was going to beat a 6 Infinity Stones Powered Thanos something that you boy struggle to do twice if she wasn't you know trying to kill her boyfriend and destroy a unbreakable stone that it Took Thanos using all 7 stones for to destroy them.
And this was before she was powered up by the Darkhold.
Affectionate_Milk7942025-11-13 09:05
First off, there’s only six stones lmao… so maybe get your facts straight before you start discussing these things.
What do you mean struggled to do twice? Thor overpowered Thanos with all six infinity stones effortlessly. Five minutes earlier Wanda was overpowered by five stones.
If you want to count destroying the mind stone as facing the power of a sixth stone (debatable) then fine, that makes her overpowered by six stones. Thor overpowered all six stones easily.
What did Darkhold Wanda ever do that was more impressive than IW Wanda? If you ask me that was her most impressive feat
JyconX2025-11-12 16:05
No, she couldn't have. Her powers may be comparable to one Infinity Stone, but never against all six of them.
elledcides2die2025-11-12 16:07
prolly the comic version
Defiant_Wheel48882025-11-12 16:11
With or without darkhold she cannot counter the snap. People says she can use the gaunlet but na she cant survive it. she could have stopped the snap but still she cannot survive it once it happen, Doctor strange himself died he is sorcerer suprene for example i say. if it feel strange i added, ebony maw cant with stand it though it was not cosmic level snap still i feel its powerful.
ConstantRefills2025-11-12 16:19
I would think she has the ability but not the capability.
juances192025-11-12 16:30
Maybe she can create an hex bubble and protect those inside but it wouldn't work on the entire universe.
No_Imagination_24902025-11-12 17:41
As always, it depends on the writers, but I don't think we've seen any evidence for it in the MCU so far (comics Wanda is a different as she was able to rewrite the entire universe). MCU Wanda's greatest feat of power was probably destroying every version of the Darkhold across the multiverse.
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-12 18:07
all she did was destroy the building at Mt. Wundagore which was the source of the Darkholds. She didn’t like….reach into every universe herself.
spidervenom6192025-11-13 08:52
Except for the fact that she did destroy all the Darkholds, Strange said it himself and he supposed to know everything.
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-13 09:10
She destroyed them by destroying the building.
Wong explained that all the Darkholds are copies and the source of their power is the building at Mt. Wundagore. It’s like the Chitauri ship from Avengers 2012. Destroying the mothership killed all of them at once.
That’s why Wanda destroyed the building at the end of the movie. To destroy all the Darkholds at once. Many heroes even without superpowers can destroy a building…
BlueJeanRavenQueen2025-11-12 17:56
"With all six stones, I could simply snap my fingers and they would all cease to exist. I call that mercy."
"What fingers?"
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-12 18:10
Wanda does magic spells. Her powers don’t just happen. The full gauntlet, especially the reality stone, can just block her spell.
BlueJeanRavenQueen2025-11-12 18:31
I don't understand the distinction you're trying to make. What does it matter if it's called a spell or not?
Disappearing a body part is a specific magical effect Wanda can actively create (i.e., a spell, probably from the Darkhold). But I think it's the same thing as "Why doesn't Dr. Strange use a portal and cut Thanos's arm off?" where I don't think there's an in-universe reason.
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-12 18:50
The distinction is that because it’s a spell, there’s some kind of physical energy or force that moves from Wanda to the target, and thus it can be blocked. It’s like she’s a pokemon doing a psychic attack. There’s something physically there, moving from Wanda to the target that can be blocked if you have the right means.
I was just bringing it up to say that Thanos can likely block Wanda’s spells because he has the reality stone, in contrast to the Illuminati who had no defenses at all against her spells coming at them.
SharpshootinTearaway2025-11-12 19:22
>Wanda does magic spells.
*“I'm not a witch! I don't cast spells! No one taught me magic!”* - Wanda Maximoff, in WandaVision.
>Her powers don’t just happen.
*“Magic on autopilot! Tell me your secret, sister...”* - Agatha Harkness, in WandaVision.
Her powers do just happen, sometimes subconsciously so, and she, in fact, does no cast spells. We've seen what spells and witchcraft looks like, in Agatha All Along, and it is a learned craft that Wanda never ever practiced up until Agatha taught her to cast runes (the first *actual* witchcraft spell she ever casts in her life) and then she starts learning spells from the Darkhold.
Now, whether she would have had enough control over her magic to will Thanos' fingers out of existence at the time, without having learned anything from the Darkhold, is another topic, and I personally believe she did not. The downside of her magic on autopilot that manifests without her casting spells is that it is tied to her emotions and state of mind more than any rational and fully-controlled intent.
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-12 19:24
We can see every time she does anything there’s pink or red glowing from her hands, eyes, or body. She’s doing magic spells (whether consciously or not), it’s not just springing into existence from nothing.
“Spells” is just a term used loosely here, doesn’t have to mean specifically witchcraft. I can use the term “psychic attacks” too and the point is the same.
My point is that her powers (the force or energy whatever they are) physically move from point A to point B and can be blocked
SharpshootinTearaway2025-11-12 19:28
We do not see the red glowing effect everytime, no. Was there any glowing effect when she created and birthed her children? Did they not spring into existence from nothing?
*“You're supposed to be a myth. A being capable of spontaneous creation!”* - Agatha Harkness, WandaVision.
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-12 19:36
Her giving birth to her children was inside the illusion she had already created. The initial “spell” was already over.
And creating stuff is still a kind of “spell.” I’m just trying to make the point that when she uses her powers, she exerts some kind of external force (a force that affects a target or the area around her) and so it’s something that can be blocked
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Lots of heroes can destroy a building. And there are at least a few other heroes who have the raw power that could likely destroy the Book of Vishanti as well.
And this was before she was powered up by the Darkhold.
What do you mean struggled to do twice? Thor overpowered Thanos with all six infinity stones effortlessly. Five minutes earlier Wanda was overpowered by five stones.
If you want to count destroying the mind stone as facing the power of a sixth stone (debatable) then fine, that makes her overpowered by six stones. Thor overpowered all six stones easily.
What did Darkhold Wanda ever do that was more impressive than IW Wanda? If you ask me that was her most impressive feat
Wong explained that all the Darkholds are copies and the source of their power is the building at Mt. Wundagore. It’s like the Chitauri ship from Avengers 2012. Destroying the mothership killed all of them at once.
That’s why Wanda destroyed the building at the end of the movie. To destroy all the Darkholds at once. Many heroes even without superpowers can destroy a building…
"What fingers?"
Disappearing a body part is a specific magical effect Wanda can actively create (i.e., a spell, probably from the Darkhold). But I think it's the same thing as "Why doesn't Dr. Strange use a portal and cut Thanos's arm off?" where I don't think there's an in-universe reason.
I was just bringing it up to say that Thanos can likely block Wanda’s spells because he has the reality stone, in contrast to the Illuminati who had no defenses at all against her spells coming at them.
*“I'm not a witch! I don't cast spells! No one taught me magic!”* - Wanda Maximoff, in WandaVision.
>Her powers don’t just happen.
*“Magic on autopilot! Tell me your secret, sister...”* - Agatha Harkness, in WandaVision.
Her powers do just happen, sometimes subconsciously so, and she, in fact, does no cast spells. We've seen what spells and witchcraft looks like, in Agatha All Along, and it is a learned craft that Wanda never ever practiced up until Agatha taught her to cast runes (the first *actual* witchcraft spell she ever casts in her life) and then she starts learning spells from the Darkhold.
Now, whether she would have had enough control over her magic to will Thanos' fingers out of existence at the time, without having learned anything from the Darkhold, is another topic, and I personally believe she did not. The downside of her magic on autopilot that manifests without her casting spells is that it is tied to her emotions and state of mind more than any rational and fully-controlled intent.
“Spells” is just a term used loosely here, doesn’t have to mean specifically witchcraft. I can use the term “psychic attacks” too and the point is the same.
My point is that her powers (the force or energy whatever they are) physically move from point A to point B and can be blocked
*“You're supposed to be a myth. A being capable of spontaneous creation!”* - Agatha Harkness, WandaVision.
And creating stuff is still a kind of “spell.” I’m just trying to make the point that when she uses her powers, she exerts some kind of external force (a force that affects a target or the area around her) and so it’s something that can be blocked
If you're asking an open-ended question, try to add your own personal answer and the reasoning.