Building a Black Winter?

Does anyone else think that Marvel is building Thor into a MCU Black Winter? I don't think its going to be a variant of Thor. I genuinely believe with the progression of his character arc that all of this is leading to him destroying the multiverse. He has suffered intense loss and heartbreak. I think he may even be the Nexus being.

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PeterTingle6162025-11-12 06:03

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FrnchsLwyr2025-11-12 18:47

It's also true that after Cates' run, Thor went on a somewhat meta quest with all the children of Odin to preserve the cosmos from higher order gods, resulting in his death and resurrection at the hands of Don Blake, the new God of Lies as a mortal with minimal memory

PeterTingle6162025-11-12 20:00

something tells me Ewing's run is even less likely to be adapted than Cates'

PraiseRao2025-11-12 06:06

Marvel is allergic to comic book story arcs. While not a great source the EP of X-men 97 stated during blade meetings while he worked on blade they were told they weren't allowed to use comic story arcs and had to come up with original stuff themselves. Like what if true it's rather stupid.

stableykubrick6672025-11-12 17:04

The best movies in the MCU also have very little to do with comic storylines - Infinity War, Endgame, Guardians 1 or 3, Ragnarok, and even Civil War or The Winter Soldier only have the smaller pieces of the comic storylines and even then, most of what happens is new. Civil War and Winter Soldier are probably the best examples of how the comic storylines are outlines at best but were made into great movies - in both cases, though, nearly everything after the mid-part is pretty much new.

PraiseRao2025-11-12 20:04

Infinity War is based off the Infinite Gauntlet story and Infinity War story from the comics. Ragnarok you're joking right you never read Planet Hulk which takes up 2/3rds of the film. Civil War doesn't have the roster to do it like the comics but it still the basic story from civil war. Guardians still form because of Ronan like they did in the comics only difference is Ronan isn't the one asking he's the villain. It's almost like you didn't actually read those comics.

There is a difference between adapting storylines which is what all those stories did and doing a 1:1. What the produced suggested is the want NONE of the comics stories. None.

stableykubrick6672025-11-12 21:44

The MCU uses the most basic, stripped down version of the comic storylines while then creating a brand new plot new. The plots of the movies are always fundamentally different than their comic inspirations.

Gauntlet and War are radically different. The plotting of Gauntlet isn’t the same at all compared to War. Gauntlet has no Wakanda, no battle on Titan with Tony/Guardians/etc, no attacks on earth, no Thor or Stormbreaker, no Vision or Scarlet witch sacrifice, and the snap is basically the end. No black panther, no guardians, no death, no Mephisto, no Adam Warlock, no black order, no outriders, no Thanos’ army, and almost no presence on Earth. Thanos doesn’t even win in Gauntlet, Adam Warlock does. Those differences accounts for most of what happens in War and almost none of that is in Gauntlet at all.

Ragnarok on the other hand being 2/3’s of Planet Hulk is laughable. Thor isn’t in Planet Hulk nor is Hela, Odin, Loki, Asgard, Surtur, or basically most of the first and third acts of Ragnarok. Hulk doesn’t fight a rebellion against the grandmaster like he does with the red king, there is no Hulk wife, no death of his wife, no giant explosion derailing the rebellion and no becoming a king of Sakaar. Hulk doesn’t even fight to overthrow the Grandmaster nor does he become King like Planet Hulk. The Ragnarok revengers don’t even take over Sakaar, they only cause chaos so they can get to the Devil’s Anus. Hulk isn’t leading some rebellion against the grandmaster and Sakar isn’t some brutal, ruthless, hellscape, the Grandmaster is completely different than the red king. Biggest of all, Planet Hulk certainly isn’t a comedy like Ragnarok. Ragnarok’s main storyline isn’t Planet Hulk even if it does borrow and adapt some aspects of the Planet Hulk storyline but that’s again, a fundamentally different thing and far from a 2/3’s adaptation. It barely adapts the Planet Hulk storyline and only does so temporarily while most of Ragnarok is focused on Thor not Hulk.

I’ve read these stories have you?

PraiseRao2025-11-12 21:57

Learn what the word adaption means. it doesn't mean 1:1 it means basing the stories off a preexisting story. Like I said they adapted those stories they aren't a 1:1 and never claimed they were.

BartleBossy2025-11-12 16:12

I genuinely consider myself to be very well knowledgable about Marvel.

Ive never heard of The Black Winter lol

JizzEMcguire2025-11-13 06:48

he is basically what Thor turns into and as a result, he destroys the multiverse.

Illustrious-Sign30152025-11-12 18:14

I can see Black Winter Thor join Dr Doom's Alleged team in Doomsday/Secret Wars