Theory- what if it’s Doom in the ship w Franklin in the Thunderbolt post credit scene

I feel like that scene was meant to be like Ragnarok’s post credit before IW and maybe that’ll be a fun twist where everyone expects the F4 and it turns out it’s doom

I could also see Doom coming across Sentry and learning of his powers. Hell what if Doom beating up the thunderbolts make Bob turn into Sentry and that’s how Doom discovers his powers.

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ModernBass2025-11-12 03:57

You think Doom would stoop so low as to use Reed Richards tech as a getaway vehicle?

SkarletVVitch2025-11-12 04:56

This is a popular theory.

But narratively it just makes more sense for it to still be the fantastic 4 after tracking Doom/Franklin to universe 616.

1) why does Doom need to steal Fantastic 4 tech to do his bidding? That seems like a bad way to start off a new major villain

2) from a writing standpoint it makes it easier to have the Thunderbolts intercept the F4 ship. Make introductions to the bulk of the main cast and then set the stage for what is happening (a la Hulk crashing into the Sanctum)

BravoLeader30002025-11-12 16:21

I don't think Marvel would have played the Fantastic Four theme music during that scene if they didn't want to imply that it was the FF onboard.

Ambitious-Writer-8252025-11-13 06:02

Remember they took Thor out of the scenes of time travel so you wouldn't see him fat? I wouldn't put it past them to do an intentional misdirection.

fieldsRrings2025-11-14 01:07

I just can't see Doom getting Franklin away from Sue in the post credit FF scene. She walked into that room ready to throw down and we've seen in the comics and the movie that she doesn't really hold back when it comes to him.

lifesyndrom2025-11-14 01:33

While I do agree, I think that’s the perfect way to establish his strength

We just saw one of the strongest female characters give Galactus a hard time and doom comes away and deals with her with ease, perfect great impression. It’d be the same as thanos killing Loki at the start of IW

arecbawrin2025-11-14 13:01

Can someone explain why it's a different looking ship in the credits vs the f4 movie?

14_EricTheRed2025-11-14 13:30

I’m thinking it’s Doom with the 4. If he was on their earth, and saw the lengths they’d go through to keep Franklin from galactus - he knows he has to play nice.

Maybe he tells reed about the multiverse problem and uses him for his tech? They form a tenuous alliance and start exploring the multiverse

Edboy7962025-11-14 23:37

Would it be all four or just the boys? How do we know Doom hasn't kidnapped Franklin and Sue