Characters that were largely changed, buffed, or nerfed from the comics

I heard before that the avengers were pretty much c tier heroes til the mcu, are there any other characters or teams that were nobody until the mcu, or characters that have been nerfed other than hulk and sentry

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Ranos1312025-11-12 02:40

The avengers were not c-tier characters before the MCU. They weren’t the big name, well known among the general population but only a handful of characters were. I’m also not sure what that has to do with characters being changed in some way.

Every comic book character that you have seen on the big screen has been changed in some way. Uniform, origin, powers, age, etc. have been changed on various characters.

PraiseRao2025-11-12 04:05

Jack of Hearts is out there like Ranos131 thinks he isn't a C lister he's celebrating tonight in the mansion heard it's going to be a blast. Yes Avenger were C Listers for the most part. There were a few A listers on the team but in reality a lot of them are not names people know. If you're a nerd like me sure I can name them but I'm not the average person.

Ranos1312025-11-12 05:19

You know there’s a letter between A and C right? And given that the OP clearly has little to no experience with the comics, I was going with the assumption that they were talking about the Avengers that have been in the MCU. Everyone that was in the Infinity Saga was at least B tier if not A. And since the Avengers have yet to actually exist on screen in the Multiverse Saga, I was assuming they weren’t talking about any of the characters introduced since then.

Maybe before jumping in and telling someone they are stupid in a childish roundabout way, you make sure you’ve actually thought through what was being said.

Edit for minor error.

Imaginary_Chance23242025-11-12 17:10

There is a letter B and C?

PraiseRao2025-11-12 20:18

The MCU was made up of characters no one wanted. If they had market value movies would have been made of theirs. That isn't A Tier characters. A Tier they are now. At the time they were not.

Ranos1312025-11-12 20:45

I never said they were A tier. I said they were B tier. They weren’t widely known but there was at least a couple of Avengers cartoons that had aired prior to the start of the MCU. That’s not C tier.

PraiseRao2025-11-12 20:56

So you're saying Tigra is a B tier character cause she was in a cartoon? I bet you no one can even name her if you showed them a picture. You call that B tier?

Ranos1312025-11-12 21:06

No. I’m saying Ironman, Thor and most or all of the heroes we saw in the Infinity Saga are B tier. That’s why they were chosen. While not as popular as Spiderman, Hulk and the X-men, they were still somewhat known to the general population. This is at least in part because of the cartoons. Iron man had a series in the 90s.

The point is that there isn’t the A tier that everyone knows and then all other heroes are C tier that no one has heard of. There’s a tier in the middle that many people were aware of even if the heroes weren’t hugely popular. That’s why they chose the characters they did over the course of the MCU.

PraiseRao2025-11-12 22:00

They were chosen because no one wanted them. They were selling their properties and came to Ant-man and no one wanted it so they brought back Marvel Films under a new name Marvel Studios. Then rights lapsed on characters no one thought were marketable and Marvel made those movies. It is why other studios had their A and B tiered characters and Marvel was left with what no one wanted or thought there was no value in them so they let the rights lapse.

The MCU was built on characters no one wanted. If people wanted them there would be no MCU.

Ranos1312025-11-12 22:18

You seem to be failing to understand the point.

The A tier characters were wanted by studios. The X-men, Spiderman, Fantastic 4 and Hulk are the only ones that got movies before the MCU. Those are Marvel’s A tier characters because of their popularity.

Then you have heroes that didn’t get movies but did have cartoons. I know Iron man had a series as did the Avengers back in the 90s or early 2000s. So while they weren’t A tier, they were still more known to the general population because of those cartoons. So they were B tier.

They led with Iron man because he was the most well known due to having his own series and the Hulk was right after since he already had a movie and was an A tier character. They clearly wanted to bring the Avengers to the big screen true to the post credit scenes of both Iron man and Hulk.

After the success of Iron man, they knew people wanted the rest of the Avengers. For whatever reason, they left Antman out of the initial lineup but brought other B tier characters in who were part of the original or at least early line up. They added more B tier characters throughout the Infinity Saga.

So the point is that there is an entire tier between the A and C that OP seems to think are the only ones that exist. Just because only the A tier was wanted by studios prior to the MCU, that doesn’t mean everything else was C tier.

PraiseRao2025-11-12 22:34

They weren't known to the general public. Jesus people really need to learn that the average person at that time weren't into comic book shit. It was Niche for a reason. Before 2008 walk down the street and ask who Iron Man was and if they didn't see the cartoon which was likely and didn't read the comics they wouldn't know who they were.

The Avengers Cartoon you're referring to is Avengers United We Stand. That lasted 4 months before it was shit canned.

Serious question how old are you? Cause I was getting my ass beat for liking comics in the 80's and 90's.

Careless_Royal82092025-11-12 02:49

I'd say the Avengers were B-listers, but in the comics Hulk and Thor are a lot more powerful than their movie counterparts. The Guardians of the Galaxy are very different. A lot of characters are different, but I do enjoy the MCU.

Obraxiss2025-11-12 03:03

I mean, they changed Ms Marvels entire powerset, whether that made her stronger or not is up for interpretation

Plus-Persimmon-32692025-11-12 06:23

I wasn't too bothered by this change but it would still be nice if they found a way to also make her stretchy

BravoLeader30002025-11-12 17:29

My only guess is that they didn't want to make her too much like either Scott Lang or Reed Richards.

SirBananaOrngeCumber2025-11-12 18:27

They did have her “growing” parts of her body is a similar fashion to comics, but the growing limbs were made of light. I was pretty happy when they did that as a nod to her original power set

Bartghamilton2025-11-12 03:19

Most of the villains. Seems they kill off villains a lot easier/quicker in the MCU.

kentkomiks2025-11-12 14:48

Maria Hill lost her entire acerbic personality as Fury's Pro-Registration replacement/rival. She was obstinate and irritable in the comics, almost off-puttingly so, but I grew to appreciate her over time.

Initial-Level-42132025-11-12 15:16

C-tier only in terms of popularity since the most popular characters before the 2000s - 2010's were Spider Man and the X-Men

In the comics they still earned the title Earth's Mightiest Heroes for the most part especially when their ranks consisted of Gods, Eternals, alien warriors and Kings.

ShibaVagina2025-11-12 17:14

I remember reading the early xmen. They were all pervs gooning on Jean. Professor X wanted to confess his love to her. Scarlet witch would make people trip over shit and like ladders fall over.

PSUNittany182025-11-12 17:27

Power wise most are nerfed. Cap is the only one that I can think of that is actually stronger than his comic counterpart.

BravoLeader30002025-11-12 17:28

Sentry was nerfed in the MCU?

ConnorRoseSaiyan012025-11-12 17:42

Would say only Hawkeye and Black Widow were C tier.

Thor definitely got nerfed

Ms Marvel had her entire powers set changed and made a mutant.

Bucky was originally a kid sidekick. Basically Cap's Robin

Hank and Janet were og Avengers with the former being the one to create Ultron

TrueLegateDamar2025-11-12 21:22

The Wrecking Crew in thr comics are strong enough to contend with the Avengers, but nerfed to a joke in She-Hulk.

AncientAssociation92025-11-14 14:11

The Avengers were b tier and the Gaurdians were c or d tier.

Ironman was not Spidermans mentor.

Thanos didnt care about balance as he was in love with Lady Death.

Drax and Mantis from Gaurdians were human.

Black Widow has taken a lesser version of the super soldier serum in the comics.

BP has a adoptive white brother.

Hawkeye use to be a criminal before the Avengers not a Shield agent.

BigMomFriendEnergy2025-11-15 01:01

Agatha Harkness for sure got a glow up to the extent the comics have shifted.

Free-Bar-27192025-11-16 18:20

Black Panther(T’challa) in the comics is a brilliant scientist and referred to as “The Supreme Technologist of Wakanda”. He’s normally ONE of the big brains in Marvel, with many technological feats and moments to back it up. In the movies none of that brilliance is put on display, that part of his character was seemingly gutted and given to Shuri.