Is being a passionate mother the best base in the MCU?

We have seen some of the craziest feats of power in the MCU from mothers. With Wanda go crazy in Multiverse of Madness and killing the illuminati. to bring back her kids. And then Sue pushing over Galactus into the bridge to protect her infant son. This makes me believe that passionate mothers are undeniably the best base in the MCU!

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FX1142025-11-11 07:07

What is a base in this context?

marvelcomics222025-11-11 12:15

Power base

gavinashun2025-11-11 07:15

Common movie trope.

Currycel78912025-11-11 07:20

Wanda wasn't trying to "bring back her kids". She was trying to STEAL kids that never belonged to her.

Hunty55552025-11-11 07:24

Yeah fair enough, but i would still say she her motivations revolve around the kids from her hex, even if they were made up and not real.

Currycel78912025-11-11 08:08

No, the Hex was all about Vision. The kids were mere props to justify her love for Vision. Unlike comics Wanda, this MCU Wanda's entire identity revolves around Vision and nothing else. Mainline MCU Wanda is primarily a widow and BARELY a mother.

MoM was merely Darkhold-fueled (and enhanced) mania. Without it, she would NEVER have performed those feats. All those Wanda-stans saying "the Darkhold doesn't give power, only knowledge" are full of shit. Jac Scheffer and Sam Raimi both confirmed that it's a power amplifier. In the comics, it isn't- but the TRUE Darkhold (Mount Wundagore) always IS.

FX1142025-11-11 08:45

She honestly wasn't even with Vision that long.

Currycel78912025-11-11 08:53

She was with him for 4 years.

Single-Pianist-22112025-11-11 07:20

I think the best base is being gifted with crazy inherent powers

Currycel78912025-11-11 21:09

Neither Wanda nor Sue were gifted with any inherent powers.

Wanda got hers from the Mind Stone, Sue got hers from a space mission.

PotentialAnt96702025-11-11 22:02

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Currycel78912025-11-11 22:05

Technically, Wandavision also claimed in that same scene that these powers "would've died on the vine if not for the Mind Stone experiment".

Melodic_Taste_7132025-11-12 07:45

wanda was already born with powers. first used it on the stark bomb which stated by agatha a "probability hex" which seems to be a nod for her "probability manipulation" ability in the comics. the experiment saved her life because she bonded with the stone that unlocked and amplified "what was already there", again, stated by agatha herself. if she was normal human she would've died. a great mystery for how she was able to form a connection and bonding with the stone. which could be explored later in the future, if they have plans for the character.

Currycel78912025-11-12 08:50

The stark bomb still killed her parents anyway, so clearly her powers were very weak at birth.

I believe the stone did amplify, key word **AMPLIFY**, what was there. It also caused her to love Vision with ALL her heart. *Her love for Vision causes this amplification to endlessly increase.*

How and why she bonded with the stone was probably going to be answered through the Kang storyline, as in comics it was Immortus who brought Wanda and Vision together. But all that has been scrapped. Instead, it will just be something that happened.

**Wanda's bond with the stone, and Wanda's love for Vision make a true faithful adaptation of Children's Crusade basically impossible.** Instead, Doom working with a Wanda VARIANT and then Strange/Mordo to overthrow the TVA makes FAR more sense. In Doomsday and Secret Wars, Doom could have a romantic relationship with this Wanda VARIANT, and then the main Wanda is the "big Macguffin" that the Young Avengers have to find because only she is powerful enough to take on Doom and his army.

I know I digress, but I just wanted to put this theory out there. It's just an inevitable extension of my 'mind stone thesis'.

Alternative-Sea3282025-11-11 07:39

Power of love is mighty

Hot-Section-79652025-11-11 08:10

my mom punched a wall out of our burning home with me in her arms when i was young so its not like this is totally unreal 😅

Not_Steve2025-11-11 09:19

There’s been documented cases of feats of strength from mothers to protect or save their children. Moms fighting wild animals and fires are common.

ConcernedSim2025-11-11 10:36

This.

Pregnant women and new born mothers are capable of inhuman strength. It's not long term though.. more like a fierce burst of power that ends as soon as it accomplishes it's task or the adrenaline runs out. But in that short moment they are capable of experiencing strength that even the strongest of men would never experience.

ConcernedSim2025-11-11 10:49

Well we trem mother's love as the strongest power in the world for a reason. It's cheesey but from a biological standpoint the strongest adrenaline rush a person is capable of experiencing, comes from the desire to protect your offspring.. and it only amplifies when that person is a pregnant woman or a new born mother.

pennygirl1082025-11-11 11:45

I understand that sentiment but in this situation it really only applies to sue because she was acting to save Franklin where Wanda was only acting to enrich herself at the expense of the 838 twins’ wellbeing.

juances192025-11-11 13:55

Counter argument:

- High Evolutionary blew up a whole planet because it was a failed experiment
- Ego started to eat whole planets because of his... big ego.
- thanos wiped half of the universe to prove his point
- Infinity Ultron destroyed *several universes* because they made so much noise
- Kang enslaved the multiverse because he was bored I guess?

So *being a psychopath* is the greatest power in the MCU lmao

MalicCarnage2025-11-12 10:02

It’s a movie trope because as humans we often associate incorruptible love with mothers. (I know there are exceptions to this). Stories with supernatural abilities will depict this love as feats of strength.

maskaddict2025-11-16 06:52

What this is telling me is that Marvel thinks people are uncomfortable with women being extremely powerful unless they're moms who mostly just care about their babies.