About Deadpool and Wolverine appearing in Doomsday or Secret Wars...

So we know Deadpool and Wolverine was rated R. However, Avengers movies are rated PG-13. Considering the reason their movie was rated R due to their extreme violence and crude language, how would they work in Avengers: Doomsday or Avengers: Secret Wars? Would the Avengers movies have to be rated R or would they have to tone down both Deadpool and Wolverine's violence and language?

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CaleBoi252025-11-11 06:56

If they show up, they'll definitely be toned back.

ultrahateful2025-12-01 06:51

In Deadpool and Wolverine, when they’re teleported to the trash heap, Deadpool wakes up/comes to next to a comic cover/poster that has “Secret Wars” on the cover. Safe bet that they’ll be showing up! I know it’s just inference, but these things are on the nose as far as Marvel goes.

Can’t seem to find any posts or comments that have discussed this, though. Surely someone else has paused it to take a look.

CaleBoi252025-12-01 17:12

Oh, interesting! You should snag a pic and post it lol, get folks talking.

Single-Pianist-22112025-11-11 06:58

I bet they’re just gonna be cameos in Secret Wars for this exact reason….pretty small parts, enough to make people happy but not so much they clash with the family friendly rest of the Avengers

HenryOnYt12025-11-11 16:58

I don't think they will make characters that made them a billion dollars and well-received reduced to small roles. Doomsday sure, but Secret Wars?

WilliamEmmerson2025-11-11 06:59

Hugh Jackman's Wolverine operated in the PG-13 realm for 17 years before he got R Rated. He'll be fine.

For Deadpool, they'll probably have a scene where he tries to say something R rated and there's a bleep or he's just physically unable to and says something like "well, this is a PG-13 movie" and move past it.

Standard-Contest-9492025-11-11 08:32

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epic_reddit_dude2025-11-11 09:26

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reddit_hayden2025-11-11 10:00

they did a separate cut of deadpool 2 that was significantly toned down and PG-13 / 12A

Armandonerd2025-11-11 15:07

With Fred Savage!

RetiredBlackKnight2025-11-15 03:42

I've never seen it, but I hear it actually work really good. PG13 Deadpool could easily work, especially with as big of a cast as later Avengers movies where the less crucial characters only get a couple minutes of screentime.

Deadpool cusses and murders a lot, but there's more to the man than that. And as noted, Hugh Wolverine was a fan favorite even under the PG13 rating.

b-irwin2025-11-11 13:49

I like one person's idea for Deadpool.

He keeps waiting for the right time to say the one 'fuck' they get in a PG-13 film. Then someone else steals it instead.

thuggishruggishboner2025-11-11 14:11

"Close the fucking door!"

Practical-Level-62652025-11-12 18:22

They are not doing bleeps in The Avengers movies lol. He just won’t say fuck. Or he’ll get to say the one fuck they can do

FalenAlter2025-11-13 21:14

I hope he's busy throughout the movie bleeping Wolverine cause he knows it's a PG-13 and the one they get to use is something he couldn't stop. Could be a funny running gag.

Practical-Level-62652025-11-13 21:15

That’s more natural for sure

xProperlyBakedx2025-11-14 03:07

My hope is he's just as vulgar as usual but it's all bleeped out. Even better would be only he can hear the bleeps.

Keeping with the 4th wall breaking theme I'd love to see him making a 4th wall break from another character's perspective. Seeing him standing there just ranting at empty space could be hilarious.

omysweede2025-11-11 07:03

There will be kids there. Sue uses her forcefield to missile him. Deadpool quips "Lady, one guy did try to shut me up once and that didn't work!" Walks away and throws his arms in the air "Fizzlesticks!!!"

Ubericious2025-11-11 07:17

They bring Deadpool in and give the movies 1 fuck to Nick Fury

AustinAlexanderK972025-11-11 07:28

Fury really should have been the one to get to say the MCU's first fuck

DarthSomething052025-11-11 07:33

Eh, the one in Guardian 3 was really funny as the first f-bomb

AustinAlexanderK972025-11-11 07:45

It was. I just feel like since Fury had been there since Phase One and is played by Samuel L. Jackson, it felt more earned. Idk why

yaboyskinnydick_2025-11-11 09:54

That's just fan service essentially, because we know Sam as an actor as literally THE guy who says "motherfucker" and we basically already got him saying that as he was being dusted..

So close enough, GotG used it \*perfectly\* and Pratts delivery was hilarious.

CaptHayfever2025-11-11 08:31

He tried to as he dusted.

Armandonerd2025-11-11 15:08

And starlord

Currycel78912025-11-11 07:19

Cameos at most.

I know for a fact that the "X-Men universe" they're using for Doomsday isn't 10005, so I wouldn't expect much from these 2.

CyberKitten052025-11-11 08:05

To be fair 10005 never had a consistent timeline

argama872025-11-11 07:20

We still have to see what makes Thor cry. They'll be there. Can't bring in the X-Men without bringing them in too.

Single-Pianist-22112025-11-11 07:21

We don’t, they won’t, and yes they can

argama872025-11-11 07:23

Sure thing

threemo2025-11-11 14:00

You’re right on at least 2 of 3

BravoLeader30002025-11-11 10:30

I've never expected to see why Thor cries; it was just a joke, not a promise of a future plot point. It could easily be explained as happening on a branch we're never shown.

Wtygrrr2025-11-11 15:25

These are the same people that take the whole “anchor being” thing seriously.

Laughlin7722025-11-12 04:29

It seemed to not just be a joke. Ryan even came out and said it would be resolved at some point

BravoLeader30002025-11-12 14:46

Where/when did he say that?

shadowlarx2025-11-11 07:38

Ryan Reynolds will say something quippy and meta to explain it all away.

GreasyStool882025-11-11 07:42

Hugh, Tobey, RDJ’s Stark, all should be main three stars of the final film (assuming it’s Doomsday and then a two-part Secret Wars). Let them carry the entire movie, legitimate leading roles.

If we have a chance to add Evan’s Cap (and probably Pedro’s Reed to further legitimize that franchise and put him in their level), then that works too.

One chance to do this right and cap off what will be 30 years of films, for a real reset. Never will get the chance again.

BravoLeader30002025-11-11 10:30

Why the hell would anyone assume a two-part Secret Wars?

Wtygrrr2025-11-11 15:30

Because they’re making assumptions about how the story overlaps with the comics that makes it impossible to tell the story in 3 hours.

MetalRexxx2025-11-11 08:08

That was the worst Deadpool movie. So cooled off on him now. They thought they were doing fan service, when in fact it was just a cameo movie with really bad writing.

karafuto2025-11-11 08:15

Similar to their 2009 PG-13 movie

SeekerVash2025-11-11 19:26

It's worth noting, that movie's haul was only 51 million worldwide and 6 million domestic. I don't think that shows there's a path to success there.

LnStrngr2025-11-11 08:35

Post-credit scene for Doomsday. They’ll portal into the MCU post-battle and Wolverine will see Xavier dead, and Deadpool will say “what the fu” and it’ll blank out. “Wolverine and Deadpool Will Return in Secret Wars” and Deadpool will whisper “shhh, it’s supposed to be a secret.”

ModernBass2025-11-11 08:55

Calling it now. In secret wars Deadpool will show up and make a reference to being in a PG-13 movie. He'll say he's saving his one f bomb for a super special moment...

Later in the movie, the time comes, he's about to say it when OG LIVE ACTION HOWARD THE DUCK SWOOPS IN AND SAYS IT FIRST

Deadpool is just left there standing and says "go duck yourself".

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ThaSpaghettiPolicy2025-11-12 02:17

So the same idea everyone else is saying but a different character?

gagi110302025-11-11 09:27

Imagine a scene where Deadpool tries to say something like "You motherf..." and then you hear "Hey, language!" offscreen and the screen pans to an alt universe version of Captain America

Drsamquantum2025-11-11 11:28

That would actually be a pretty great way to reintroduce Cap and would play off the Johnny scene in DP&W

contrabardus2025-11-11 09:41

I think Deadpool should be in Secret Wars, but in blink and you'll miss it cameos in the background of establishing shots.

He should not directly interact with anyone on screen, and should have no lines, but any time something important happens or something goes wrong, he should be there.

Then have the next DP movie be Deadpool's Secret Wars, and have him be either a direct or indirect cause of every single problem the heroes have during the movie.

Every hero death should be at least indirectly caused by him, every speed bump, road block, and so on.

But also have him be a direct contributor to the final resolution in the end, but off screen in a way that the heroes win wouldn't have happened if he hadn't been there.

Wtygrrr2025-11-11 15:28

So you want the Origins version of Deadpool.

Nethias252025-11-11 09:42

I said for years that MCU Deadpool should be the new stan Lee. I want a full costume Deadpool in the background of the coffee shop Peter walk into in brand new day, doesn't say a word, just there sipping his coffee. Things like that.

BravoLeader30002025-11-11 10:27

How sure are we that they're even gonna appear in Doomsday? My money would be them we don't see them until Secret Wars.

HenryOnYt12025-11-11 17:00

It's a pretty safe bet to expect them for doomsday.

Thedarklordphantom2025-11-11 10:58

Deadpool would try to curse and get beeped and Deadpool would say something like “ok gotta be pg13 this time “ why do people not understand this

dreamteensasha182025-11-11 11:30

That would fit his character so well, Deadpool breaking the fourth wall like that would be perfect

TDStarchild2025-11-11 14:25

Deadpool and Wolverine will assuredly appear in either Doomsday or Secret Wars, if not both. Makes sense they’d be part of Loki defending the TVA

Did Avengers have ‘extreme violence’ when Thanos snapped Loki’s neck or ripped the stone out of Vision’s head? Or when Thor cut off Thanos head? When Spider-Man did ‘instant kill’?

Hugh as Wolverine has mostly not been R-rated. Just tune down the blood and language, they’ll both be fine

Armandonerd2025-11-11 15:07

They're both going be in doomsday and secret wars and both will be rated PG-13, I'm sure Deadpool will try to say something R rated and get smacked by wolverine or one of the avengers with "language"

SchoolBoy_Jew2025-11-11 18:22

They’re going to do Secret Secret Wars and it’s going to make $1.5b

Marrow-Sun77262025-11-11 19:19

Deadpool and Logan aren't going to be fighting and cursing each other out anymore. They already did that in Deadpool & Wolverine and they were buds at the end of that movie. Also as others noted, Wolverine was in a bunch of PG-13 movies before Logan and D&W, it'll be fine.

SeekerVash2025-11-11 19:24

Wolverine will be in there fine, as others have said, he was PG-13 in almost all of his material.

Deadpool won't be in there beyond a momentary cameo. Deadpool doesn't work outside of his movies. His brand is being very R-rated, without that, he's just the Temu-Wolverine and not very interesting. If they gave him a major role and pushed him into PG-13, they'd destroy the Deadpool brand and cement a box office bomb for his next movie. No one's interested in PG-13 Deadpool.

Further, his tone is counter to that of an Avengers movie, his product is based on comedy and 4th wall breaks, which doesn't fit at all with an Avengers movie. He couldn't be Deadpool.

SavagerXx2025-11-12 06:28

As for violence, its easy. They can murder aliens or robots all they want in pg13 movie. Language is also not a problem with Logan. Deadpool can literally say out loud that Disney is not allowing him to curse.

mutzilla2025-11-12 08:17

Deadpool is in the fantastic 4 ship that we see at the end of Thunderbolts.

mdavis87102025-11-12 22:51

When this topic comes up, I always hate everyone’s ideas for him to be meta or try to curse. There are plenty of times in the comics, and he’ll even his own films, where Deadpool treats the story he’s in seriously.

n_mcrae_19822025-11-12 23:17

Honestly, I’m curious how they’re going to have the Punisher in the next (presumably PG-13) “Spider-Man” film without neutering him.

Dphotog7902025-11-17 04:15

If Doomsday is Patrick Stewarts last movie....then Yes will get Hugh Jackman in Dooms day almost GURANTEED! and if hes in the movie! Deadpools definitely in the movie!

Shyamalandra2025-11-24 23:21

I think Wolverine might be in Secret Wars. I highly doubt he will be in Doomsday simply because I feel Marvel would try to stick to "Worst" Wolverine, because that's the one variant they developed the most and it's basically their way of resurrecting Wolverine into the MCU. They're not just gonna get Hugh to play a random variant for Doom to kill like with the X-Men, let alone have another Wolverine variant to develop and sideline the one from Deadpool.
He's not like Patrick Stewart, who has died like three times as Professor X so if they kill him again it's just another stripe to the tiger.