I am curious for the people who have read comics, what has been the best and worst change they made in the movies.

I’ve been rewatching some of the Marvel movies lately, and it got me thinking about how many things they changed from the comics. Some of the changes definitely worked out for the better, but others felt like they lost something important from the original stories. For those of you who’ve actually read the comics, I’m curious—what do you think has been the best and worst change Marvel has made when adapting the stories to the MCU?

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Rich_Syllabub982025-11-10 07:08

Worst change in a storyline imo was secret invasion. It was an avengers level story in the comics.

Worst change in a character is obviously taskmaster.

Cautious-Hedgehog6352025-11-10 12:34

Why?

Randolpho2025-11-10 13:44

Because she died, of course!

Rich_Syllabub982025-11-10 14:39

Because taskmaster ain't Terminator

Wtygrrr2025-11-10 07:10

Worst: making Hulk weak AF

Cavewoman222025-11-10 10:45

Totally agree, and I wish people would argue the point rather than just downvote you.

Regenitor_2025-11-10 12:21

I always assumed it was not going to be a permanent thing after Endgame, so I wasn't really worried. But then came the post-Endgame rollercoaster:

- First time we see Bruce post-Endgame is in Shang-Chi. And he's regular old Bruce Banner again! Huzzah! I knew it. He's figured out a way to revert his changes at will. Can't wait to see him in the next project.

- She-Hulk comes out. Here we go. Time to see the "real" Hulk again for the first time since Ragnarok. But no, we got regular Bruce, Smart Hulk, and a really frustrating scene cut at the one time when an actual Hulk-out was about to happen.

- Supposedly he's in an upcoming film, but not Doomsday, so we have yet another wait ahead that may still not pay off how we want it to.

I'm tired man. Just wanna see Hulk smash some stuff.

MajorNoodles2025-11-10 14:47

> Supposedly he's in an upcoming film

I believe that film is supposed to be >!Brand New Day!<

Regenitor_2025-11-10 19:08

Yeah I was avoiding spoiling for anyone who doesn't follow leaks.

MajorNoodles2025-11-10 21:22

I didn't even think about that. I spoilered my comment to fix that

eBICgamer20102025-11-10 07:14

Since no one said best, I'll say it:

Taking the baseline premise of One More Day and spinning it into something else with actual gravitas, i.e. No Way Home.

BambooSound2025-11-10 12:44

It was a fun movie but I didn't hate the mind wipe bs any less.

I hate it when stories go backwards so I'm really hoping for the lightest possible reboot after Secret Wars. Last thing I want is another 10 years of origin stories.

Mister-Lavender2025-11-10 12:59

Same. NWH is the low point of MCU for me.

mrbaryonyx2025-11-10 17:40

just a sign of how different things can be in film.

we got film adaptations of the Phoenix saga, Secret Invasion, the Galactus saga and even fucking Watchmen that all range from "ok, to shitty" (I haven't seen F4 I'm talking about rise of the silver surfer), but One More Day turned out fine.

Smooth-Mix-43572025-11-10 07:15

In comics Tony Stark is a huge drunkard which they have mellowed down in movies so that's a positive.

Thanos is a nihilist in comics who is obsessed with death and to woe her he erases half of the universe while in films he is a Malthusian villain, not that it is not mad but much better than whatever was in comics (it was Death who wanted balance in comics and not Thanos).

Civil War in comics was genuinely a civil war and wasn't about cracking jokes amist fights, I say comic book did it better.

Infinity Gauntlet comic was in a much more cosmic scale compared to Infinity War movie with Thanos fighting cosmic entities like Eternity, Infinity, Chaos and Order, etc. Movie can't have that unfortunately and had to be watered down. Even Thanos' journey to complete his gauntlet was much more challenging in the comicbook.

No Way Home is based on the comic "Spiderman One More Day". It is considered one of the worst spiderman storylines, they took that story and slightly twisted it and result was one of the most loved films coming out.

clashrendar2025-11-10 07:50

There's just not adequate time in a movie to convey a storyline like that effectively. They touched on it in Iron Man 2 which culminated in Rhodey suiting up.

DavitoDaCosta2025-11-10 07:37

Where do you start?

Swapping The Ancient One from a 2 thousand year old Asian man into Tilda Swinton (No shade on Tilda, she's a great actress)

Turning The Mandarin, one of Iron Mam's most formidable adversaries, into a side-show comedic act.

The complete disregard of Death and their involvement in the MCU as a whole. Thanos, Deadpool etc

ThatIslandGuy88882025-11-10 11:32

And when we finally get a cool Mandarin, they kill him off in his first movie -.-

FewWatermelonlesson02025-11-10 07:50

Best: The Mandarin twist is up there.

Worst: Removing Uncle Ben from Spider-Man’a backstory, even if they did eventually use Aunt May for that same purpose.

Live_Answer_38752025-11-10 08:23

Mandarin twist absolutely sucked and ruined Iron Man 3

FewWatermelonlesson02025-11-10 08:25

Nah, it was great commentary on creating a foreign boogeyman to manufacture consent for the military industrial complex. Genuinely one of the smartest plot beats in a Marvel movie.

ModernBass2025-11-10 08:54

I think it's definitely better NOW since we got a real Mandarin so fans could get over being baited.

No-Question47292025-11-10 12:11

I also think it works so well thanks to the utter legend that is Sir Ben Kingsley

randmperson22025-11-10 09:54

Disagree about Uncle Ben. We’d already seen Spidey’s origins twice within 10 years, we didn’t need the equivalent of falling pearls for a third time.

Vast_Replacement7092025-11-10 11:41

As we've not seen Tom's origin how do we know Ben isn't the source of the guilt that was already spurring him to be Spidey long before May died? Both of them have died in the comics so her dying in the movies doesn't mean she's replaced Ben as his original motivator.

spidervenom6192025-11-11 01:17

They didn't remove Uncle Ben from Spidey's Backstory, he's the whole reason why he's always Spidey in the first place.

clashrendar2025-11-10 07:55

Best is everything they did with Captain America was better than in the comics. Chris Evans got the character exactly right, which I thought would be impossible.

Worst change was Secret Invasion. That should have been it's own whole Phase with shows and movies to properly set it up and pay it off.

ijustuseredditformem2025-11-10 08:08

I didn't even read any of Secret Invasion, but I watched a few of the episodes and thought that it would have worked much better as a story with multiple heroes there. Secret Invasion is a common thing to bring up, it seems; I feel like, to Be Honest, I really thought that there should have been a goal for Phase Four. In my opinion, there should be an Avengers movie in every phase. Or, at the very least, a movie with lots of characters that kinda just shows everything is tied together. Like it doesn't have to have all avengers in it, but like if you just got like 4-5 of them fighting scrolls I think it could have worked as an interesting movie or even tv show. Imo it would have had a lot less people left Marvel. It just feels as if you could have skipped the majority of phase four, and you would be fine for the most part and I feel like this would have fixed this.

clashrendar2025-11-10 13:22

They also had the opportunity to connect several of the D+ shows by revealing key characters to be Skrulls. Hayward from WandaVision could have been a Skrull, Sharon Carter could have been a Skrull. Val could have been a Skrull all along. And I don't understand why they didn't make it so that Maria Hill was always Soren - would have both blown minds and made complete sense.

Rhodey being a Skrull (but replaced much more recently than the show implied) is fine. Same with Everett Ross.

I think the thing that pissed me off most about Secret Invasion is that they killed Soren offscreen, and then also had near-pointless deaths for Maria Hill and Talos, characters that people really liked and cared about.

yuvi30002025-11-10 14:04

The problem is that someone wanted shock factor without thinking about the consequences.

It could have been easy for them to show Maria Hill dying and reverting into Skrull form and we never see the real Maria Hill after that, so it's left up in the air as to whether she was killed or went into hiding or what. But no. They wanted to make a statement and they chose a terrible statement to make.

poppythepupstar2025-11-10 22:47

and their statement was the most cliche boring nonsense: 'we kill the women' a total non shocker and over done trope/ honestly i am so happy to see other people still annoyed about this years later i thought i was the only one holding this grudge lmao

mrbaryonyx2025-11-10 17:33

Yeah, what the show didn't realize is "spies who can't trust each other" isn't super novel; that's inherent to the genre (and Agents of Shield did it better).

The whole point of Secret Invasion in the comics is that its superheroes; you don't know which heroes are trustworthy or not. For a series where the characters almost always wind up on the same side, it could have been a really fun idea.

oorza2025-11-10 09:34

The problem with Secret Invasion or any body snatcher plot device is that you can’t retcon character moments after you’ve given the audience time to internalize and empathize with them. They sort of tried with Rhodes and everyone is mad. It’s bad storytelling in any medium and it’s always baffled me why people wouldn’t just want What If or Elseworlds if they want stories that don’t actually matter to the characters.

elizabnthe2025-11-10 10:08

To be fair, if you planned out something like Secret Invasion as a whole phase then you would approach such things differently in light of that context.

AdmiralCharleston2025-11-10 13:05

Theres no chance that the mcu audience could accept potentially an entire phase of character development being wiped away

elizabnthe2025-11-10 13:09

The idea would be that you wouldn't create important leaps in character development for characters that are just Skrulls.

clashrendar2025-11-10 13:47

And/or you'd reveal that the character's development had an ulterior motive because it wasn't actually that character.

Thaddeus Ross using the Sokovia accords to tear the Avengers apart in Civil War, and then revealing he's been a Skrull since 2012 would have worked.

Implying that Rhodey might have been a Skrull since Civil War does not work, because it undoes the stuff related to his injuries during the Germany fight.

Also, Marvel Studios made a pretty bold and interesting move in Captain Marvel by subverting expectations on Skrulls as a species and making them sympathetic refugees, which was relatable. Secret Invasion kind of took a big shit on that.

AdmiralCharleston2025-11-10 14:26

So it would be incredibly obvious who was a skrull, unless every character got no development across what could be 5 year's plus.

I just dont think people have really considered what this would look like in the mcu, it wouldn't be either too obvious who was a skrull or it would piss a lot of general audiences off

elizabnthe2025-11-10 14:31

Not every character gets development in MCU movies. For the most part there really isn't a huge amount of development for most characters full stop. So no, it wouldn't be obvious for that alone. But there's also ways to present something that seems like it would be character development without it actually being of significant impact.

AdmiralCharleston2025-11-10 14:37

Which characters received no development across an entire saga?

elizabnthe2025-11-10 23:52

Pretty much every character but Captain America and Iron-Man in films that weren't their first appearance, and they often reversed their character development anyway with Iron-Man and Captain America.

What character development did Hulk and Black Widow or Hawkeye really have Phase 1 - 3? They just weren't the focus and didn't get much serious fleshing out.

AdmiralCharleston2025-11-11 02:36

Hawkeye and widow both experienced events that led them to be disillusioned with authority amend become more independent, that was a huge part of their arcs.

What you're suggesting would basically mean that all main characters would not be skrulls which kinda lowers they're stakes

kiki_strumm3r2025-11-10 22:47

They effectively threw away all of Loki's character development for the show, and people were fine with it because of the payoff.

AdmiralCharleston2025-11-10 22:49

But that was explicitly a different character going down a different arc, not a charavter prerending to be loki whose big moments meant nothing because he was faking it. Loki had 2 seperate arcs

KalelRChase2025-11-11 04:45

So do you think the reboot will fail? Or is that significantly different in your mind?

AdmiralCharleston2025-11-11 10:28

I don't think there's going to be a reboot

ryaaan892025-11-10 13:45

This was a complaint about the comic too, specifically Jessica Drew.

ThatCheekyBastard2025-11-11 00:30

It wouldn’t have been difficult if they focused a bit more on the Skrull body snatching in FFH. Given that Mysterio already worked in the “do my eyes deceive me?” Plot device and the reveal that Fury and Hill were Skrulls in the end credit tag, I could imagine it directly feeding into Secret Invasion.

- Who else is posing as a superhero?
- Who is being framed?
- Who is manipulating nations (Wakanda?) for their own gain?
- Are the heroes we saw at Tony’s funeral the same heroes we see moving forward?

It’s not that far fetched to take the end of Endgame and use it as this driving force that’s ripping through arcs like CATWS, SWORD in WandaVision, possibly Armor Wars, Hawkeye series, and dovetailed into Captain Marvel 2, BP 2, Shang Chi, Ant-Man 3, among others.

They went too full force on multiverse and did make an attempt at Avengers 4 being the Secret Invasion movie that should have been.

Chapek really screwed the pooch on this

oorza2025-11-11 01:00

You missed the point. There’s no way to do a long form narrative body snatcher story without retroactively removing character development. There’s no way to do THAT without alienating probably half of fans, comics fans included. It was divisive as a book and they retcon and redo character development in the comics all the time.

They could have done Secret Invasion more successfully but they could not have done it with mass appeal.

wauwy2025-11-11 02:30

Secret Invasion was also yet another event that sucked and was designed to sell as many floppies as possible.

The only good part of it was Sacred Invasion, because Incredible Hulk was still temporarily Incredible Hercules with Amadeus Cho etc. It was not only good, it was fucking amazing.

Consistent-Flan14452025-11-10 13:16

I think the really depressing thing about Secret Invasion is that it had the potential to be so good. But you can’t do a massive storyline like that in a single miniseries and do it well. I agree that it almost needed to be its own phase, or at least a major subplot for the phase. It needed to be extensively set up in the projects preceding it, to have more big name characters, and to have a legitimate fallout that’s visible in the follow up projects.

Had they leaned more into the paranoia aspect of it and had some major characters be replaced I think it would’ve been much better. I was so disappointed that Maria Hill’s death didn’t lead to a reveal of her having been replaced especially. She’s Fury’s right hand and privy to almost everything. The personal fallout for Fury and then the question of what intel could have been leaked creating tension would have been fantastic. Esp had they thrown in a few more established and trusted characters and had some be replaced.

Replacing Rhodey was all well and good, but he was far from the most interesting choice.

poppythepupstar2025-11-10 22:48

tbh it makes no sense that the skrulls didn't try to replace Maria?? like seems like they were not sending their best operatives for planning their rebellion. I suppose it could be implied that's why Skrull Ross called her but it not even clear if he called her or just any agent nearby or if they wanted her to see the info to call Fury....!

Consistent-Flan14452025-11-10 23:53

It’s so weird. She really was the obvious choice from a production and an in universe standpoint. Other than Fury and Rhodey she’s the only returning character that audiences are really invested in. Basically everyone who is someone interacts with her due to the nature of her job and she’s privy to so much classified information. Having her be replaced at an unknown point in time would highlight how capable the skrulls are and create major problems for a lot of people.

I was so disappointed that they just killed her off like that with no real pay off.

poppythepupstar2025-11-11 00:20

i know i was totally expecting it to be a cool spy espionage story with shape shifters and the only people who weren't really who they were was ross (and he was only in it for five minutes) rhodey and fury for two minutes that one time where skrull whose name i forget but was the main villain killed her. fury realized rhodey was a skrull right away so there wasn't even any 'who do you trust' paranoia at all so, so, dumb.

it's even worse bc Kevin Feige said at SDCC in 2022 with Cobie present (and she was the only cast member who showed up to promote the show too!) that she "played a major role" in the show and everyone cheered and reporters congratulated her in her major role in interviews following the event and that was it. absolutely embarrassing for the MCU.

lottolser2025-11-10 13:26

Tbh i thought they were setting up secret invasion to be an Avengers movie culmination. Like Avengers secret inVasion.

knotsteve2025-11-10 13:27

An entire phase of “guess the imposter” would have been hell. The problem with secret invasion was not format. It was the writing.

beekeeper_atlamont2025-11-10 14:04

>Best is everything they did with Captain America was better than in the comics.

Yet

>Chris Evans got the character exactly right, which I thought would be impossible.

I'm hoping this being the top comment is that people just really hated Secret Invasion.

clashrendar2025-11-10 14:18

*And the award for most dickish comment of the day goes to...*

mrbaryonyx2025-11-10 17:31

Secret Invasion didn't need to be a whole phase, but it should have at least been an Avengers movie, like the Multiverse Saga's Age of Ultron.

A lot of problems with Multiverse Saga can be summed up as "they took things that could have been good Avengers movies and made them tv shows, and then just decided to jump straight into 'Infinity War'"

tfresca2025-11-11 08:04

This would have worked as a bigger story but they made the Skrulls scrubs. No menace or danger. They are just refuges they are sympathetic. Made no sense to me

hobo_champ2025-11-10 08:13

While I do like Age of Ultron, the movie should had been called Weekend at Ultron.

ModernBass2025-11-10 08:59

I never get this point. Like, it's Age of Ultron because that was Ultron's end goal. To make a world, an era of nothing but metal.

Like, why don't you complain about Spider-Man No Way Home? They got home.

elizabnthe2025-11-10 10:09

The Spider-Men got home. But MCU Peter didn't :(

ModernBass2025-11-10 17:52

Maybe home was the friends that died along the way?

Carpeteria30002025-11-10 14:15

"Avengers Endgame"? More like "Avengers We Gonna Keep Making More of These" amirite?

mrbaryonyx2025-11-10 17:42

While this is true, the real reason is because "Age of Apocalypse" was the first real blockbuster Marvel crossover event, so for a while anytime they wanted to try something similar they called it "Age of ___", so the big event for 2013 was Age of Ultron, and then that's when the movie went into production so they just decided to call it that.

NotABonobo2025-11-10 19:52

Nah, it's called Age of Ultron because "Age of Ultron" was a big recent storyline in the comics at the time the movie was made. In that story, Ultron won, took over the world, and created an actual age of Ultron. It took time travel shenanigans to get things right.

Kind of like Age of Apocalypse, about an alternate timeline where Apocalypse takes over the world and epic stories ensue. Or Emperor Doom, a story where Doom actually wins and becomes emperor, not any old story where he tries and gets stopped. Just saying, if a movie's titled Thanos Wins, I want to see a movie where Thanos wins, not one where he has the goal to win and fails.

Not to mention that if the movie's good enough I don't care what it's called. Age of Ultron was underwhelming compared to other Avengers movies, which is what people are really complaining about.

Bonekrusher14082025-11-10 10:19

I haven't read too many comics, and there's only one that was "adapted". That comic was Planet Hulk. The comic was awesome, it and it's follow up, World War Hulk, are hands down my favorite comics. I absolutely hated Thor: Ragnorak and caca titty for what it did to the story, I'm still kind of pissed about it lol I didn't realize that until now that I'm reminded of it.

The movie version isn't anything like the comic and only accomplished taking a fat shit on a great Hulk story and guaranteeing that we'd never get a proper adaptation.

SirFlibble2025-11-10 10:27

There's a long list but the thing which I don't like the most is Hank and Janet being old. While these two characters have never been A listers, they are unique.

Particularly Hank, whose battle with mental health is something which, if well written, could have brought something really interesting to the MCU.

By skipping to them retired and Janet missing, we lost so much potential in story telling.

museedarsey2025-11-10 11:07

They don’t necessarily make movies in chronological order though, if they were popular enough or there’s still meat on a storyline, they could always fill in with an earlier-set film.

Lovethiskindathing2025-11-10 13:08

Yeah but they gave Ultron away already, and they made Yellow Jacket a whole other thing. So a lot of their most intense storylines would need to either be in another timeline, which I mean I guess we have!

whyspezdumb2025-11-10 11:11

If the Pym Particles made you insane and Hank killed or cause Janets disappearence, it may have been better.

Hope's reaction to Hanks story of Janet was so overblown. She really reacted as if it was his fault.

Hank was so distraught of his creation, then after the first movie he perfects it off screen and puts it in his coffee.

Lovethiskindathing2025-11-10 13:06

I was so angry about the yellow jacket story line and Ultron. Ultron is so key to Hanks entire story! It's what destroys him and Yellow Jacket is part of his redemption and I just whyyyyyyyyy?! Paul Rudd was great as Scott Lang but I wanted the Pym story not the Lang one. They took all of his big moments and gave them to others, keeping him a side piece and not an equal contributor.

And he's one of the only ones to ever actually care about what happens to the baddies! They did him so dirty.

yuvi30002025-11-10 14:10

Hank and Janet have often been on Avengers teams in comics, animated shows, etc. Even in the Lego Marvel games, they're pretty important to the stories. So I can understand where you're coming from.

However, I think if they wanted to, we could get something just as cool or even cooler:

Period piece stories with Hank and Janet. They could cast younger actors for them (or use the older actors with de-aged faces and stunt doubles) and we could get a series or a movie or at least one special presentation or something. It feels weird that we didn't get this already.

Stillwindows952025-11-10 15:41

My wife and I think that they did it for a really shallow reason - the names don't appeal to younger audiences. Hank and Janet just sound like a couple of 60-70 year old people.

We are probably wrong but if Marvel wanted their Ant-Man story to appeal to all ages and seem more realistic for the time period, Hank and Janet are a bit outdated as names. Scott and Hope are a lot more 'regular' and somewhat modern despite how Scott is also a very old name, it's remained relevant.

banditk772025-11-10 10:56

One of the best changes was not starting the universe with the Fantastic Four. They belong in an alternate 1960’s timeline. And dressing Ben Grimm better.

khludge2025-11-10 11:51

Thor Love and Thunder absolutely massacred the Mighty Thor story about Jane taking over and even more so the Gorr the god-killer story (spoiler- in the comics he actually kills some gods, which you would barely know from the film)

No-Question47292025-11-10 12:17

Yeah I think the mistake they made with this was trying to shoehorn both storylines into the same movie. In parts the Jane thread worked well but it also meant that Gorr was starved of the screen time he deserved. The tiresome constant comedy also didn’t sit - for me this would have the makings of a great movie with another 15 minutes or so of Gorr butchering everyone and a more serious tone for the second half of the movie. Keep the humour in the intro with the Guardians, the first hour or so until the scene with Zeus (Russell Crowe was inspired) and everything after that should have been dark as hell as Thor stops hamming it up and gets back in touch with his Infinity War self a bit.

lottolser2025-11-10 13:32

The movie needed a montage of Gorr butchering gods which apparently was filmed but cut, iirc because they didn't want to push the pg13 rating. I believe they filmed enough Gorr to film a solo movie but like 85% of it was cut.

Rich_Syllabub982025-11-10 14:41

Yet they kept Hemsworths butt. But it was worth it

No-Question47292025-11-10 18:58

Here’s hoping for the extended special edition at some point then!

mrbaryonyx2025-11-10 17:41

I feel weirdly vindicated in my belief that Taika leaving Akira to make another Thor was a bad idea

although its possible Akira would have turned out bad too, so who knows

Affectionate_Dark1032025-11-12 22:34

I feel like the adaptation of Gorr should have basically been a horror movie. I can't tell when Chris Hemsworth's character has ever been truly terrified, and Gorr feels like the perfect vehicle for that. Granted, I think my ideal Gorr adaptation would be too dark for Disney and not something that seems in Waititi's wheelhouse, so I would have preferred his story focus on Jane' Mighty Thor story.

LastRecognition20412025-11-10 12:13

I think the streamlining in the Infinity Saga was very smart, they took the realism of the Ultimate comics at the beginning and then increased gradually the madness with Guardians and the cosmic side. The worst? Moon Knight and Thor Love and Thunder really destroyed beyond repair any seriousness from the world of gods turning Taweret, Ammit, Zeus, Bast and the Celestials into (not great) jokes

BambooSound2025-11-10 12:49

My best and worst is actually the same thing:

I loved how they changed the Eternals / Celestials to be about emergences and that planet’s were basically giant eggs.

I hated how they never said that the reason Thanos wanted to half all life in the universes was to stave off the Celestials’ arrival.

Really I just wish that Eternals movie was set on Titan (and maybe a bit of Xandar) instead of Camden.

MajorNoodles2025-11-10 14:49

> I hated how they never said that the reason Thanos wanted to half all life in the universes was to stave off the Celestials’ arrival.

If they had gone that route, why couldn't he have just wiped out the Celestials instead of half of everyone else?

BambooSound2025-11-10 16:22

Could have just made it so celestials supercede infinity stones. They've made bigger changes.

Dukefrukem2025-11-11 02:00

just throwing this out there... because it would be awesome... but when Thanos said he was "cursed with knowledge" to Stark, what if he wanted to erase half of humanity because he knew Galactus was coming? Galactus only interested in planets with large populations.

Lovethiskindathing2025-11-10 13:02

The best change is Thor and Loki and their relationship together. MCU Loki is lovable. Thank you Tom Hiddleston

The worst change is the entire Ultron and Ant-Man situation. Hank Pym deserved to be the first Ant-Man in an Ant-man movie (no offense, Paul Rudd you did amazing as Scott Lang). Also Hope not being a twin. Idk I enjoyed the movies, but I was just super annoyed the moment the dates for Ultron's premiere and Ant-Man's were announced, and I realized they likely weren't going to have Hank be a part of Ultron's story at all. Then Yellow Jacket just UGH. Hank you deserved so much more. Your story is so much more.

HappycatAF2025-11-10 13:44

Captain Marvel’s comics origin is a bit clunkier, but I think tying her powers to the Space Stone was better for the MCU. The rest of her story is a complete mess and I don’t think they are touching that.

Thanos also had good tweaks to his storyline. The Death thing in the comics has its place but I am glad they didnt include that in the movies.

Falcon’s origin is much more realistic than the comics, which is just weird.

Thor is also an improvement without donald blake. However, I do think parts of the Ultimate version could work in film, specifically the part where people think he was a crazy person with stolen tech.

Taskmaster has a alot of potential and they threw away and put a bullet in the head.

I also think a younger hank pym and janet being original avengers could have been done well. Scott Lang is ok, but he is really Ant-Man. Pym is really a more creative scientist and we could use more Giant-Man.

I also think Hawkeye’s 616 origin of being a carnie and a crook is better than being just a black ops agent. If you had those skillsets, I see being either a performer or a crook to be a more likely career path than going into shield.

Ordinary-Chain-80472025-11-10 14:00

Taskmaster is the worst change need I say less?

whofedthefish2025-11-10 14:09

Hot take but I like how they changed Kamala’s powers for the shows. Plus they really upped it in Marvel Zombies

beekeeper_atlamont2025-11-10 14:14

Best: Making Killmonger and T'Challa cousins, and changing M'Baku from a fairly racist, dated character into a fan favourite.

Worst: Idk. Making Peggy the "love of Steve's life" comes to mind, maybe.

BunsenHoneydewsEyes2025-11-11 05:44

And jobbing Sharon Carter to a single kinda incesty kiss. I guess you can argue that Peggy is just Sharon from the comics, but honestly I really love Sharon and Steve together and wanted to see Emily Van Camp do something cool with her.

Speileggs2025-11-10 14:15

Everything to do about Thor, Asgard, the Nine Realms, and the nature of gods in general. Trying to make Thor an "ancient alien" was a mistake, and they lazily tried to retcon this in Thor 3 and 4 when they were more comfortable with real magic, but it just became messy.

MX24192025-11-11 03:46

Yes I agree with this. I'm like an alien?? Really??!! Come on lean into the godhood and fantasy aspect of Thor.

Speileggs2025-11-11 22:42

The Thor franchise could have been the LoTR of the MCU so it's a shame, I wanted Thor to go on adventures in mystical realms filled with gods, elves, dwarves, giants, witches and trolls etc. Guardians of the Galaxy, the Avengers, and plenty of other heroes were there to do outer space stuff with.

MX24192025-11-11 23:40

Yup I agree. That's why I love the first Thor and Thor 2 could've been way better. Even though they lean on alien more you can see the fantasy aspect with the Frost Giants and opening fight of Thor 2. I wanted to see what you said with mystical realms and objects. Yes Thor 3 is the best one but is my least watched. It's crazy to say I know. Balder, Tyr, Enchantress etc. I hope Thor goes out on a high note with Thor 5.

Carrot_King_542025-11-10 14:52

Worst is definitely the Mandarin from Iron Man 3, which was rightfully retconned.

Casual_Observance2025-11-10 14:55

For best, I'd say Civil War.

They took Millar's soiled toilet paper of a "story" that had tons of character assassination and disjointed stupidity just to supply shock moments and made it into a viable story where the characters acted appropriately based on their established characterization.

For worst, I'm going with Waititi's Thor. Yes, BOTH movies, although after Ragnarok, I didn't even bother with Love & Thunder. An yes, by extension, this also means how he was written in Endgame.

I don't care what Hemsworth wanted. There's a reason that Cap and Thor often see eye-to-eye and are not only comrades-in-arms, but friends. While they can smile, make an occasional joke, and laugh, they are more serious warriors. They are driven to protect innocents and defeat evil. Not everyone has to be Tony Stark. Not everyone has to constantly be making jokes.

The constant attempts at humour and levity along with the disjointed story and obviously constant adlibbing took all the drama and emotional impact out of serious moments. I had no idea just how badly the death of Odin, the loss of Jane, the absence of Sif, or the death of the Warriors Three affected Thor because those things were either followed up immediately with unfunny jokes or they were completely ignored.

And the destruction of Asgard? OH YEAH! Waitit himself tried to make us laugh with an obvious and unfunny joke as soon as it happened.

Frankly, Thor showed more emotion over the loss of his hair than the loss of his eye, his father, his friends, and his home. What a travesty of a movie.

But, hey! Many people found it funny, so Waititi and Hemsworth got a second chance to butcher Thor even more, along with other characters and stories. At least that time people clued in that this direction for Thor totally sucks.

The worst part is the Russos did more for Thor in Infinity War and somewhat fixed what was wrong. Thor showed sadness and even a few touches of appropriate humour. And we saw glimpses that he was trying hard to just suppress and not show what the events of Ragnarok had done to him. And then Endgame saw him revert backl to the same idiocy as we saw in Ragnarok. SO much so that I immediately assumed that Waitit had been confirmed to return for the next Thor movie and probably insisted and assisted in how Thor was to be shown.

Look, I know Hemsworth likes to flex his considerable muscles when it comes to comedy. And that's fine. And I'm sure Marvel/Disney wanted to keep him happy as he was one of the few major Phase 1 actors who wasn't chafing to get out of working in this franchise.

But, if all he wanted was be a muscled goofball, maybe he could have waited and tried out for Guido/Strong Guy or something....

drallafi2025-11-10 15:48

This is certainly a small gripe but I wished they had kept the Infinity Stones / Gems the same colors as the comics.

tbutz272025-11-10 16:07

Worst is secret invasion. Which was garbage.

Second worst was age of ultron which should have been called "weekend in sokovia of ultron".

phil_davis2025-11-10 16:20

I haven't read the Infinity War comics, but I'm familiar with Thanos's motivation, and I'd say that's my pick for worst. Everyone jokes about him being a space incel, and I'm sorry but the whole motivation of "I need to use these magic stones that have reality-altering powers to murder half the population so that there are enough resources to go around...for a while" is so, so stupid and lame, for reasons that have been talked about to death at this point. Him doing it to woo the actual personification of Death is more interesting from a character perspective, and honestly more horrifying. And it actually makes sense, which the motivation we got in the films doesn't, not even a little bit.

CaptHayfever2025-11-10 18:39

Best change: I didn't like the comic version of Civil War at all, or the comic version of Ironheart at all. Both are *massively* improved in the MCU.

Worst change: Aging up Molly so she's only 2 years younger than the other Runaways, while not also changing dialogue regarding Molly to sound like it's about a 14/15-year-old instead of a 12-year-old.

ChappieBeGangsta2025-11-10 21:20

Best character change is Namor by 1000 miles. I'm so done with old Namor after seeing this version

poppythepupstar2025-11-10 22:44

in the secret invasion comics maria hill is actually cool and essential the skrull invasion plot (killing a bunch of them and using a LMD to trick them) and was vital in fighting them off and resisting them and in the show they murdered her after 8 minutes of screen time in the stupidest way possible after she did literally nothing but pick fury up. 2 years later and i am still pissed!!!

edit: i had not read the comments yet and thank you to everyone who still acknowledges how ridiculous that choice was years later.

AmeriCanada982025-11-10 23:14

Best: pretty much everything they did with Vulture compared to his comic counterpart. Dude actually comes across as a credible threat in the movie version, and they made him a scavenger which just makes perfect sense for a guy named "Vulture"

Worst: its been said all over the thread, but Secret Invasion. That should have been a massive event with several heavy hitters. Instead it was a BAD TV show with seemingly no impact going forward for the MCU

crispyg2025-11-10 23:17

The Eternals (as characters) are so boring compared to the interesting varied roles they have in the comics.

Longjumping-Air14892025-11-11 00:35

Worst was all the crap they’ve done with the FF and Dr Doom up until the most recent one. That last one was pretty good, and the previous ones were pathetic travesties.

Best is all the Avengers. Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Black Widow, and Hawkeye were all done exceptionally well.

ijustuseredditformem2025-11-11 00:38

Yeah, i have to say I kinda wish they introduced Fantastic Four wayyy earlier. But that being said, Fantastic Four has gotten some really bad movies so I am just happy about having a really good one. It's clearly the best.

spidervenom6192025-11-11 01:15

Best Change= Anything to with Phil Coulson, Captain Marvel's Character, and Saving One More Day which thought would have been impossible.

Worst Change= SECRET INVASION AND INHUMANS, DEAR GOD INHUMANS.

wauwy2025-11-11 02:26

The worst change was no Richard Rider Nova introduced in Marvel Cinematic Cosmic because James Gunn thought his helmet was goofy.

Now, I think GotG3 is a masterpiece. But the only goof occurring here has to do with you, James. You done goofed and you done goofed bad.

sunny_gym2025-11-11 02:51

Best: Not worrying so much about secret identities
Worst: Botching Secret Invasion

Common_Wrongdoer32512025-11-11 04:07

I liked Miss Marvel's powers way better in the comics

This-Major-92392025-11-11 04:12

Best: generally keeping the spirit of the comics alive in the major crossover movies. What I mean is if you wanted to follow a crossover event in the comics, you might have to read Spider-Man one month, fantastic four the next, avengers the following, etc. the movies worked the same way.

Worst: introducing too many characters that are irrelevant for little payoff. I don’t want to hear crap about the young avengers, if I don’t have X-Men.

deadlieststing2025-11-11 05:00

People have covered most of my gripes, but another one that stands out is taking away Natasha Romanoff's age. Unlike Steve and Bucky, she was awake and active during the entirety of the Cold War. To make her likeable, they watered her down, erased half of what made her awesome, and then took her age away because "not everyone can have long lives" according to the Russos.

BunsenHoneydewsEyes2025-11-11 06:03

Worst: Ultron. The movie is fine. It’s a decent Avengers flick with lots to enjoy. But man. Take a read through of Kurt’s Ultron books. I want my Ultron to be a howling genocidal maniac with a mouth that never closes and bleeds red energy from the sides like a fucking furnace of hate. And I know nobody cares about this like I do because my friends all look at me sideways but fuck you YOU DONT GIVE ULTRON FUCKING METAL LIPS SO HE CAN SPEAK LACONICALLY! Ultron always had Starscream’s voice when I was reading. Or at the very least Megatron. Not James Spader.

Best: The buddy scenes between Nat and Steve in Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier as a whole is my favorite MCU flick, but Steve and Nat’s chemistry together is so wonderful. Not at all romantic. Just pure respect and deep love of two friends who have each other’s backs. Hawkeye is supposed to be her best friend, but Renner’s Clint was always too straight for me.

Missed opportunity: Natasha and Matt’s relationship is something I really wanted to see onscreen and never got. At least we got a Jen one night stand with Matt making the walk of shame. That’s a small consolation prize.

Another thing I really wanted but know we’ll probably never see is Carol being best friends with Jessica Jones. Ritter and Larson together onscreen would make for some fun times.

Time_Lord_Omega2025-11-11 09:42

Secret Invasion hands down and I try to be a glass half full kind of guy lol

danielo132025-11-11 14:37

Best: making tony likeable
Worst: what they’re doing with the hulk

Alarming_Valuable8362025-11-13 12:49

Secret Invasion didn't make sense and couldn't happen for real

nlmf2025-11-14 20:43

I hated the organic webs or Tony giving Peter everything cause by doing this you're taking away a big part of his character,his intelligence and inginuty and giving it to someone else