Kinda optimistic about Doomsday because Avengers 1
I just watched iron man 1 and 2 today and started avengers 1 again and i realised, that Avengers just had CA, iron man 1+2 and Thor before and made such a incredible Movie without huge background.
The Script achieved perfectly combine and use the given characters. So my hope is that could Doomsday a big banger. May not good as infinity/endgame but may plays in the same League.
Just my 2 Cents
The Script achieved perfectly combine and use the given characters. So my hope is that could Doomsday a big banger. May not good as infinity/endgame but may plays in the same League.
Just my 2 Cents
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I feel people underestimate how big of a gap can be filled with these movies.
There's the Bangols/negative bands or whatever from Miss Marvel, idk if anything was done with them in the Marvel's. Which I struggle to remember if that's what Wong pulled Shang Chi and his friend away for to talk with Banner and Danvers about. I do recall something like they were in Kamala's family for generations.
There's the Ten rings, which idk if this is what Wong talked to Shang Chi, Banner and Danvers saying something like they are ancient and are emitting some kind of signal.
That's about all I could think of aside from Adamantium in Cap 4 to be utilized for Wolverine and whatever other ways it would be weaponized.
There's also Pym tech, Reed tech, & multiple forms of magic.
However, if Marvel has teased some of these like what I listed and anything else, I'm not saying it's them adhering to a formula, but if they're mixing it up, so to say, then who knows if any of the items will make a play in any capacity or just show up once for some value importance, never to be seen again
Agreed, and I think this gets overlooked a lot, combined with some misrepresentations of what happened across the Infinity Saga.
Like when people complain about how Doom hasn't been sufficiently set up yet. I don't deny I would've liked to have seen some of that across phases 4 and 5 (though I suspect everything with Majors messed things up on that front), but it's not like Thanos, or even the Infinity Stones, got much real setup prior to Infinity War. Thanos himself had barely appeared, his actual goals and motivations weren't clearly established, and the Stones themselves had mostly just appeared as macguffins in their respective movies, rather than as objects with a specific "gather these and then snap away half of all life" goal.
None of which is intended as a criticism of phases 1-3, just to point out that a lack of meaningful setup doesn't mean that Doomsday can't do great work with Doom, just as Infinity War did so much for Thanos.
I think Infinity War and Endgame were amazing not because what came before them were meticulously planned to feed directly into those movies, but because of how well they took what was there and crafted something satisfying with it all. Like, the Endgame scene with Steve in the elevator was great, but it wasn't great because they had it in mind when they wrote Winter Soldier. It was great because it took what had been done and established already and did something really cool with it.
Phase 3 was an insanely high bar for consistent quality, and it is a shame we don't have that same level here, but I'm still hopeful that they can take a look at all they have available right now, all the characters and stories and ideas, and craft something fun and thrilling with it.
This is the end of the Multiverse Saga and the best we have so far is the Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four mid credits.
I remember when secret invasion was announced and I was excited until I realised how little time they had to set it up, and then they just decided to not set it up at all, and what we got was one of the worse TV Shows I've ever seen.
I do hope that Doomsday and Secret Wars are good, but despite having 14 movies so far in phases 4-6, it just feels like no building blocks have been put together
and
> the best we have so far is the Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four mid credits.
are mutually-contradictory statements.
Honestly the RDJ reveal was more "Set up".
And he had appeared in 3 films by then.
And im talking about set up for the films in general not just the villain. So we had also firmly established the existence and location of most of the infinity stones.
In fact the entire events of the first Avengers film were set up by Thanos.
So yeah, pretty much the same a 5 seconds of a ship in space and a side profile
Still not Marvels best characters and stories BY FAR
I'm not going to be optimistic about *Doomsday* until I actually see it and find it well-done.
Age of Ultron had even *less* setup, just a few seconds of foreshadowing in the prior week's Agents of SHIELD episode (which was written retroactively anyway).
As for Infinity War/Endgame, while the infinity stones were gradually introduced over the course of the Infinity Saga, Thanos himself had less than 2 minutes of screentime before that point.
Meanwhile, here in the Multiverse Saga, we're in a *very* similar situation: Doom himself has had only a few seconds of screentime, but lots of different elements of the multiverse *have* been gradually introduced over the past 5 years.
That said, I absolutely wouldn't expect this kind of movie. The closest thing to Doomsday will be Marvel Zombies: lots of new characters meeting for the first time and quickly teaming up against the threat at hand.