Fantastic 4 mid credits scene

I waited to see this movie until it was on Disney+ due to underwhelming results at the theater when watching Thunderbolts. Everyone is complaining there isn’t much build up to Doomsday. I agree there’s not the 10 year build up we got for Thanos but simply seeing the green hooded Dr Doom holding his mask in hand while seemingly admiring Franklin made me so pumped for Doomsday. It’s such an ominous scene. Now I have to ask the question… who do you all believe is in the Fantastic 4 space ship in the thunderbolts credit scene??

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Lincoln6242025-11-09 15:20

Not the Fantastic Four.

Narrow_Ad_73312025-11-09 15:23

I believe it’s Doom escaping with Franklin following a quick fight with Sue Storm. But when I saw thunderbolts I was sure it was the Fantastic 4 running from Galactus and potentially coming to warn 616 of Galactus

Zaladin032025-11-09 15:23

Doom and Franklin

SkarletVVitch2025-11-09 15:46

It’s simply the fantastic 4 after tracking Doom and Franklin to this new universe.

I know people think it’d Doom with Franklin, but that narratively it makes more sense to do this:

Doom will retreat to “our universe” using Franklin or an already made gadget he invented, maybe both. the F4 will do science to make sure they can also travel (probably tweak the teleporter) and follow.

This leads to the Thunderbolts credit scene.

The New Avengers will intercept the F4 ship and that’s how everyone will be introduced to each other and then the F4 will explain what is going on.
It’s the “Thanos is coming” part of the movie and it sets everything up to follow.

Thanos probably does something to get the proper Avengers on the radar. They attempt to fight him but are over powered and that’s what sets the Avengers up to teaming up with Thunderbolts and F4

evapotranspire2025-11-09 16:06

A lot of people assume that the FF mid-credits scene shows Doom about to kidnap Franklin. I think that would be awfully heavy-handed. I think it would be more interesting if Doom's interactions with the FF are more nuanced than that. Although obviously Doom and Reed are rivals, they used to be close friends, and (in the comics anyway) Doom has an uncle-like relationship with Franklin and Valeria.

So perhaps the FF mid-credits scene depicts Doom coming to the FF with news of multiversal danger, and perhaps the Thunderbolts end-credits scene depicts Doom AND the FF traveling from 828 to 616 in order to do something about it. Just my guess.... we'll see!

FX1142025-11-10 06:53

The way they specifically show Doom being absent from every global meeting seems to be intended to indicate animosity and seclusion. Plus, Sue seems pretty shocked that he's appeared in their house.

evapotranspire2025-11-10 09:11

I agree with all of that- but I still think there's the possibility of a more nuanced interaction than just Doom kidnapping Franklin and fleeing the universe with him! We'll see, I'm happy to be proved wrong.

sunny_xo2025-11-09 16:50

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Narrow_Ad_73312025-11-09 17:23

I have been very very careful about what YouTube videos and posts I consume. I was determined to not have the end credits scene spoiled for me bc I felt like it would be my first time seeing Doom and it was.

Aggravating-Mix20942025-11-09 18:16

Even from titles of stuff tho… half the time I get spoiled without even opening a thing. Kudos to you!

NikolitRistissa2025-11-09 19:04

I’ll do them one better.

I just saw the movie today and I didn’t even know Galactus was in it up until Silver Surfer appeared on screen.

a_o2025-11-09 16:55

With Thanos it was really like 6 year build-up, with ~2 year gaps between every appearance (except between GotG and Age of Ultron)

intraumaticspiderman2025-11-10 06:35

Franklin has been established as the most powerful mutant with healing superpowers who literally brought Sue back to life....

Doom taking off his mask and Franklin touching his face could only mean that he wants his scars treated on his face ..... So we could see RDJ's face in the movies ( and not just him wearing the doom mask at all times )

Secondly, in the comics Franklin can create worlds, and maybe Doom wants him to create the battle world in Secret Wars.

Narrow_Ad_73312025-11-10 20:22

I didn’t know a lot about Franklins character in the comics other than he was very powerful. Now you’ve got me pumped it would be insane if he made battle world. And I hope they didn’t heal the scars. I looked at RDJs face as Iron Man across a decade. I wanna see Doom not Tony in a green hood

intraumaticspiderman2025-11-10 20:56

Yes most probably Franklin would have a role in setting up the battle world... He is one of the most powerful mutants (telekinesis, can manipulate matter and warp reality) even above many omega level mutants including magneto and professor xavier... In the comics he makes an exact copy of Earth 616 and several pocket universes at will... In all honesty he could also be the one creating the new marvel universe (post secret wars) which introduces the mutants to mcu, something which would set up the x-men saga....

As for doom, yeah even I would want it to be more than rdj ... and tbh he is such a great actor that he would surely pull off doom very naturally ... I guess they would still somehow indirectly tie the tony stark thing as both have a lot of traits in common (pride, intelligence and genius, insecurities, rebellious and going against the tide)... the only thing that separates them is the good vs bad side ....

As for the scars, i guess franklin would not be able to completely heal them because he's still a kid and though he is overpowered, his powers might fluctuate (something like jean gray in x-men).... This in turn will add another parallel between doom and tony (what the mask and scars are to doom is the same as what the arc reactor was to tony)

...and who knows you get to see a scarless doom post-doomsday, in secret wars, as battleword is his utopia ; though he would still chose to wear a mask as a symbol of what doom stands for (even tony got rid of the arc reactor in the last iron man movie, though he still used it as a major element in his newer suits)

Turbulent-Spirit-5682025-11-10 07:45

I think the fantastic four post credit scene is the start of Doomsday then Doom takes Franklin and hops into a dimensional portal. The Fantastic Four then try to follow him using the spaceship but end up in E616 then we get the Thunderbolts post credit scene.