Fantastic Four has so much potential as a new franchise within the MCU

I guess you could make this argument about any of the solo films, but this one in particular feels like it could really be the MCU's next big thing. The new *Guardians of The Galaxy* if you will.

The first movie came out at probably the MCU's lowest point ever and it still managed to make over $500M and get great reviews. It's been reported that a sequel is in the works and we know they're going to have a significant role in *Doomsday* and *Secret Wars*. I would be surprised if Marvel didn't try to get a few spin-offs out of it given how rich this IP is.

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unreasonable-frog2025-11-08 22:56

Sure

AbsorbingMan2025-11-08 22:57

Don’t you feel like the next few moves will continue with a similar naming convention?

Like

FF: Second Chances

FF: Third Wheel

The_Superhoo2025-11-08 23:09

2 Fantastic 2 Four

YESRedbone2025-11-08 23:14

amen

The_Reddit_Guy_22025-11-08 23:34

The Fantastic and the Four: New York Drift

CaptHayfever2025-11-09 00:30

Fantastic Five...wait a minute....

mani96122025-11-09 21:35

Fantastic Four 2: Electric Boogaloo

HazazelHugin2025-11-10 11:04

The Fate of the Fantastic

SolaceRests2025-11-09 14:38

The Fantastic Four: Fantastic Harder

Consistent-Annual2682025-11-08 23:51

Fant4stic

Fanta5tic

Fanta6tic

Fantas7ic

Fant8stic

FantastIX

Fan10stic

That's all I got.

bobthemusicindustry2025-11-09 00:38

Hope not. They’re already pushing that gimmick with Spider-man and it’s getting lame

DefVanJoviAero2025-11-09 01:57

The next Spidey breaks that trend

waitforit552025-11-08 22:59

Idk. Some of this movie were not great for me.

KeptPopcorn51892025-11-08 23:21

I really enjoyed it a lot more on the second watch, also watch the og 2000s movies before it

waitforit552025-11-09 00:39

Downvote but Ben looked horrible when moving in every scene after the boat pull.
Sue is as strong as galactus?

MaxReb02025-11-09 01:52

Sue Storm is an incredibly powerful character. I actually thought the final showdown with Galactus was a brilliant way to show how much of a badass she is

decitronal2025-11-09 04:39

Sue was already the strongest F4 member in the comics. I don't know if I'd easily call her stronger than Galactus though, she can't maintain that ultimate attack of hers without literally dying. If that black hole and the Silver Surfer deus ex machina weren't there she would've been cooked

lazerlinks2025-11-08 23:08

Can't forget: the thing, hour long documentary about orange rocks told by Ben grimm

TaffyPool2025-11-08 23:10

I’d be *totally down* for a “Mr. Wizard”-like science experiment series for kids with Reed Richards and guests. And release them on Saturday mornings for maximum childhood nostalgia.

British_Rover2025-11-08 23:39

That would be awesome. Not sure if you can get Pedro Pascal for something like that he is in such high demand. Maybe an animated series?

TaffyPool2025-11-08 23:50

Eh, playing off the public access TV tradition, no need to be super high-quality. Film a dozen over a week and release them over a three month period.

PissNBiscuits2025-11-11 01:13

>And release them on Saturday mornings for maximum childhood nostalgia.

Fuck, I miss Saturday morning cartoons. The excitement of being able to watch the hyped up episodes of Pokemon, Static Shock, etc on Kids WB after them being teased all week was the fucking best.

TaffyPool2025-11-11 02:36

Same, just not the same nowadays perusing the available kids shows on various streaming apps and letting the kid(s) pick from them. *When we were their age* “we watched what was on at the time and liked it!”

The more I ponder it, a **Mr. Fantastic & Friends** live-action Saturday morning show (via D+) with simple but FF-relevant science experiments would be *so* good — educational and, to a small extent, adding to the larger MCU lore.

Edit: Oh man, now I’m just imagining Paul Walter Hauser’s Mole Man as a semi-recurring MF&F guest talking about earthworms and boring tools and the like. Do want!

DegenGamer7252025-11-08 23:11

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YESRedbone2025-11-08 23:15

Maybe "Fantastic Four: Second World" as a name idea if they get transferred to the 616 universe post SW.

Any-Transition952025-11-08 23:18

F4 is a big IP, the MCU should have brought them in earlier in the Multiverse Saga. It would have been in the MCU's favor if Thunderbolts was the closing film of Phase 4, and F4 as the opening film of Phase 5, instead of the unfocused mess of films we got that wasn't building towards anything.

El_Quetzal2025-11-08 23:22

Is F4 really that big of an IP? Back then yeah, but today?

Any-Transition952025-11-08 23:27

I'd argue, yea. Their name alone would have drawn more attention than Antman, Thunderbolts or The Marvels back when the public was still largely interested in the MCU post-Endgame.

matty_nice2025-11-08 23:49

They are probably in the same tier. Not really relevant.

I think once you get outside the top 20 superhero properties, it doesn't really matter about name/brand. And yes, I think they are outside the top 20.

iamsobluesbrothers2025-11-08 23:46

In the comic book world I would say yeah but not in terms of general audiences. I don’t think general audiences care much about the FF. There might be a little bit of nostalgia from the cartoons from the 90’s but that probably a small percentage.

Fickle-Ad-71242025-11-09 00:07

F4 launching after Endgame would have been big, and marked a new focal character for the series. They should have moved on to Reid, Doc Strange, Chang Shi, Wanda and Cap Marvel movies then into an avenger low stakes film instead of whatever we got

Any-Transition952025-11-09 19:40

Yea this would have been a much better path. Post Endgame needed its new anchor characters, but we weren't really given any.

AmaterasuWolf212025-11-09 12:57

Is it a big IP tho?

This subreddit was telling me F4 was gonna clock 1B with no difficulty and it ended up having to crawl out of the 2nd week dropoff

El_Quetzal2025-11-08 23:25

I dont think so, the general audiance doesnt seem to care about this team much

Countback0982025-11-08 23:31

It’s pretty much the Jetsons

matty_nice2025-11-08 23:39

IDK, I'm not really sure how you make a sequel a bigger movie than the first. Let's assume no more Doom or Galactus. The options are gonna be Annihilus? Puppet Master? Frightful Four?

I think transplanting them into the MCU is gonna be akward too. Did they just move over to the 616? Or were they always in the 616? Complications aren't good.

MiwasObsessions2025-11-09 00:24

They’re definitely not in 616. Totally different universe

matty_nice2025-11-09 00:31

I'm talking about going forward.

While information is limited, seems like these varios universes are going to merge together. Meaning the FF's universe will no longer exist.

DefNotAShark2025-11-09 08:33

They need to move them out of that universe because it’s too sterile and clean an environment to tell a mature story. It was cool for one movie but the way people in that universe react to basically anything is so far from reality. Their idea of rioting was standing around outside and then Sue tells them all “don’t worry” and they’re like “okay” and go home lmao. I get the backdrop they were going for but it’s going to wear thin real fast.

I think they will have to merge them into 616 or these movies are gonna be annoying. The mass idealism was interesting as a set up for who these people are and where they come from but it’s gotta go now. The same way WW2 era was a useful stage to set up Steve Rogers, but he became infinitely more interesting when he came to our modern age.

matty_nice2025-11-09 19:20

For clarity, there's a difference between moving them and merging them.

Moving them is going to have a lot of issues. They would be the same characters just in a different setting.

Merging them would make them different characters. So the characters never existed in the 1960s and were always modern characters. And that should have a huge impact on the characters.

Merging them would IMO be the better choice, but it also makes First Steps irrelevant to the characters that are going forward since they would be different characters.

MiwasObsessions2025-11-18 06:15

Ohhhh sorry my bad i misinterpreted that

Be_The_Zip2025-11-08 23:51

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Ubergoober1662025-11-09 00:31

I don't know that I'd go that far with it. They'd run the risk of over saturation and making people turn against it. I absolutely loved First Steps, though. I'm not even that big of a fan of the Fantastic Four, but the movie was a solid introduction to this team. It's one of the few recent Marvel movies I'll probably watch multiple times and actually regret not seeing in theaters.

NoelCanter2025-11-09 16:02

I have no attachment to Fantastic Four, but really loved the retro futurism and color palette of the movie. I just watched it streaming and enjoyed it a lot. Not sure why it got such a mixed reception. Maybe not enough clobbering time? It was a little more of a cerebral movie, but just like Thunderbolts* I’m more than okay with that. Felt like there was a lot fewer quips undercutting more dramatic moments.

Wtygrrr2025-11-09 16:34

The way they established them as an established team in such a short time was very impressive.

SeekerVash2025-11-09 06:47

>It's been reported that a sequel is in the works and we know they're going to have a significant role in *Doomsday* and *Secret Wars*.

There's a script in the works, but that does not guarantee a sequel. It all depends on Doomsday's reception, if Doomsday struggles to break even, they're unlikely to try and continue Fantastic 4, they'll likely just fully shift to X-Men.

We do not know they're going to have a significant role in either movie. In fact, we do know that Thor is the second lead, behind Downey as the lead, so that means that they're background characters.

FreeStall422025-11-09 06:56

Kinda lost all interest when Franklin was put in the first movie.

Killed all intrigue and reality warping children ruin everything they are in.

SonicTheHedgehog992025-11-09 09:12

A Herbie short series like Groot would be fun ti watch

Rcp_43b2025-11-09 14:47

I finally watched it last night and loved it to be honest.

Fickle_Ad87352025-11-09 19:38

nah

MCCylReddit2025-11-10 00:09

Thundra spinoff.

FreeStall422025-11-10 06:38

It had potential. Sadly wasted by again just skipping all their development.

Introducing Franklin Richards killed any intrigue. Don't like stories with him or any other power baby/child.

intraumaticspiderman2025-11-10 06:44

Could easily make a tv series showing how Franklin grows up and the fantastic 4's day to day lives ....

Or make a human torch - spidey bromance tv series.... There's literally no good bromance stuff coming out nowadays

Scenora2025-11-10 16:42

Sure

FXintheuniverse2025-11-10 17:13

I don't know, it was mid to me. Nothing special. I would rather watch season 2 of Moon Knight, or Eternal.