This movie is extremely overheated and is a very good movie.
Multiverse of madness is hated for very dumb reasons and is a very good movie. Is it as good as some of the best like infinity war no not really but it is better than the majority of marvel movies.
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And I don’t think you’ll find many saying Secret Invasion is fun. And ironically, I don’t find Love and Thunder very fun, even though that’s all it seems to care about.
I think what the prior commenter is pushing back on is using the fun factor to shield from and dismiss criticism. Some people frame fun as if it means that no other standards should be used to critique a movie because it has fulfilled the function of being fun. But fun movies can be great movies. For me, if the story isn’t landing I’m probably not going to be having as much fun. That was MoM for me. I don’t hate it, but I can’t say that I really enjoyed myself.
Criticizing a “fun” movie doesn’t inherently mean wanting it to be something high brow or serious. For me, it often means wanting it to be a more complete experience that facilitates me having fun.
Is it hot in here or is it just Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness?
You just described one of the coolest sorcerer fights on screen.
Seriously, I don’t get wtf people want sometimes.
It's a visually stunning movie, and I love the cinematography/costumes/production design, but it's not a good movie.
This hope was shattered in more than one way.
In WV, she does not know the extent of the Darkhold’s power or capabilities. All she knows is that this book foretold who was destined to be. I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility to think that she would want to know what’s in that book—but not fully understand the repercussions of what it’d do to her. She knows nothing about witchcraft or magic, so obviously she’d want to learn as much as possible. It just so happened that the Darkhold ended up corrupting her because of the nature of the book.
Still the case to a great extent.
despite the "hate train" now being over.
In fact, I think it’s well done. 😉
It was a fun watch, but it was also really understated compared to its potential
I wonder what it could of been if they hadn't had all the script rewrites and changes. If nothing else, Reed's character would have been better...
So let's call it Strange 3 and the Scarlet Witch.
Which brings a problem for everyone who has seen Wandavision, because it basically undoes all the growth Wanda had in the final episode.
Is it entertaining? Sure. As most Marvel movies you'll have a good time watching it, because it features some of the characters we've grown to love.
Is it good? No. One of the best in Marvel? What are you on about? It's not even the best Dr Strange movie.
Overhated? Sure. But that goes for any Marvel project since Infinity War. And it makes sense. That was peak Marvel and it was downhill from there (Yes unpopular opinion Endgame was a worse movie. It was an 3 hour excuse for a fight scene. Yes it had nostalgia moments but structure wise it is far inferior to Infinity War.)
like the MAIN villain is just utterly insane and stupid as a bag of bricks and was previously a beloved character w/ an long and painful arc that was extremely beloved by fans but this movie is a complete character assassination of?
or like "dumb reasons" like the illuminati all act like complete abject losers too?
how about this scene?
[https://youtu.be/l9LsSS9aB7I?t=11](https://youtu.be/l9LsSS9aB7I?t=11)
you telling me that car he summons the giant demon cat head to bite doesn't have ....innocent people... in it?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb2RRbx77nk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb2RRbx77nk)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPmS-vjbwGc&t=1s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPmS-vjbwGc&t=1s)
And better cinematopography
That description applies to both films
Different approaches, but there are blatant unintended similarities
Okay. Please stop.
You can like this film. But do not act like you cannot fathom why people hated it. Sure, people will hate on shit for the sake of it. But many of the criticisms toward this film were VERY valid.
Nothing about Multiverse of Madness really came together. You could feel how cobbled together it was. And the character assassination on Wanda was foul.
There was a good film in there somewhere, but the end result was not that film.
My biggest gripe is definitely how they back tracked on Wanda’s character development from the series.
Should have let the audience think she was a villain between the two movies and let it breathe
The directing/cinemotgraphy/ sequences was a saving grace of the movie.
Most people don’t like it because of the actual plot, which would have been Waldron’s responsibility
My biggest issue with this movie is really how it handles Doctor Strange himself. He almost feels like he’s been put on the back burner, like he isn’t even central to his own story. A lot of his agency and capability seem stripped away. I know people will point out that he isn’t completely useless in this film and that he has moments where he’s capable, but that kind of proves my point. In Infinity War and Endgame, he was shown to be incredibly intelligent and powerful. The way he handled situations in those films just doesn’t align with how he behaves in this one.
I also think Wanda’s overall characterization is extremely lazy and inconsistent. People say she was corrupted by the Darkhold and that she’s evil now, and I get that. The problem is that it feels like too big of a jump from where we saw her in WandaVision to where she is now. WandaVision was a self-contained story where Wanda ultimately accepts her trauma. Even though there’s an implication of a darker side brooding within her, she seems like she’s gotten past a lot of it. Instead of building on that or exploring it further, they just turned her into a full-blown psychopath villain who’s willing to kill basically everyone to get her way.
Not only that, but the way the film handles its cameos is extremely lazy and dumb. When you look at films like Deadpool & Wolverine or Spider-Man: No Way Home, you realize cameos can really add to a story and feel tasteful and respectful. This film does not do that at all. The Illuminati are killed in the dumbest, most contrived way possible. Sure, Scarlet Witch has the power to kill them, but the way it happens feels lazy and poorly thought out. Some people say it’s supposed to show their hubris, but I don’t agree, because their arrogance wasn’t really established, and their deaths just feel like a cheap way to get them out of the story.
What I’m ultimately trying to say is that I don’t think this film works as a good sequel to Doctor Strange, WandaVision, or really anything else it’s following up on. The action can be interesting at times, but when you compare scenes like the music note fight to how Strange battles in Infinity War, it feels gimmicky and hollow. Then there’s the fact that Wanda ends up dying, closing off all the potential she had built up over seven years, and we haven’t really seen her since, at least not in any meaningful way within the main timeline. Doctor Strange himself has been absent too. The film teases where his future might go, but in my opinion, it’s extremely uninteresting and doesn’t seem like it’s heading anywhere we actually want to see. We don’t even have confirmation that a third film is in the works, so honestly, I’m not sure if I even care anymore.
People act like everyone hated Phase 4 and that nothing in it worked, but that’s not true. Most people’s issues with Phase 4 come down to how it failed to follow up on certain things and failed to properly set up future storylines. Phase 4 should’ve been Marvel at its peak, because by now, you’d think they’d have figured things out. Instead, their world-building and setup feel even messier than in the first three phases. I don’t buy the argument that Phase 4 is just making the same mistakes and people are being more harsh. I think we have every right to expect more at this point. Marvel should’ve learned from their earlier missteps and be delivering better, more interesting stories by now, not the same, or worse.
i did have a fun time
shame Sam Raimi's return to directing superhero films wasnt received much well
he flippin nailed the horror aesthetics tbh, i remember i was drinking my chai and i literally spat out twice on the weird contortions Olsen's Scarlet Witch did
I think the character work in the movie is incredibly underrated
But overall I really dig it
Sucked
marvel told that it would be a very dark horror story so I was expecting more like Harry Potter Azkaban prisoner with moldus .
The movie did deliver but the plot was a bit too predictable
I don’t have an issue with her turning bad and being a villain for a movie, I think it makes sense and is fun, but to have that turn also be the end of her character? Absolutely not.
Let's also not get into the story because it is just too much to talk about.
Then they sidelined him into the mentor cheerleader in his own movie. His only role in the final confrontation was to tell America she could defeat Wanda by herself. I paid for a Doctor Strange movie and I got scammed.
Hey? You know that MCU movie that isn't very good?
It's actually good.
Every. Single. Day.