Watched F4 First Steps today

One thing that really jumped out at me, is the fact that they showed Johnny's intelligence and abilities beyond just throwing fire around. Reddit said in the beginning that he chose the best scientists he could find for their space mission, and it just happened to be his family.

I feel like no one ever talks about the fact the Johnny is a bit of a genius too, and just focus on his ego, so watching the movie was a nice change in character.

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evapotranspire2025-11-08 06:05

Reddit = Reed? (Typo?)

jramos0372025-11-08 06:16

Reddit Richards

Sparkwriter12025-11-08 06:48

No, Reed asked Reddit for the best scientists around, and the people of Reddit recommended him to Ben, Johnny, and Sue. The rest is history.

LunimusREX2025-11-08 13:17

Yeah, my bad. Fixed now.

midnightphoton2025-11-08 07:12

the best scientist that can interpret the entire alien language with one sentence.

Ginoblee2025-11-08 08:22

Did he not have 23 other transmissions to learn from?

marvelcomics222025-11-08 08:57

He did but he only had the translation of one of them.

EfficaciousJoculator2025-11-08 11:19

On first watch, I did think it was ridiculous how much he surmised from one sentence.

On rewatch, he does admit that he's making sweeping assumptions about the other recordings and Shalla-Bal's backstory. Mostly obvious ones, given context. I'm guessing he didn't translate as much as he implies and that his whole plan was a hail mary that worked out. It is strange that he sussed out her being a scientist or astronomer though, seeing as neither term was in that one sentence...

I wish they'd given him something else to work with to make that bit more believable. Maybe an intermediary language that Reed was already translating that the transmissions contained too. They could've picked from any number of space faring species. It makes perfect sense for Reed to have been picking up Kree/Skrull/Titan/Xandarian messages for years, enough to have a Rosetta Stone's worth to work with.

Adorable_Spell75622025-11-08 12:54

Yeah I agree I too liked Jhonny the most im the movie. Though I felt it was very short and needed to be longer.

detchomatic2025-11-08 13:38

Having Johnny go supernova to power up a ship thruster for the neutron star escape would have been chef’s kiss.

LunimusREX2025-11-08 17:14

That would have been pretty awesome.

Bigguygamer852025-11-08 15:10

Yes, I liked how they made them in this one they felt like a family. Ben doesn't feel bitter about being the thing. Johnny is a little hot-headed but not an Ahole and is shown as very intelligent as well. His teasing of the others doesn't feel mean like in past incarnation it feels like a family member teasing another one to get under their skin but done lovingly. This group felt like a real family.

Fracas-in_Caracas2025-11-09 20:12

“What time is it Ben?”

A perfect example of what you’re talking about. It wasn’t something Ben was ashamed or angry about, just something he thought was goofy so Johnny used it to lighten the tension in a bad situation.

PSUNittany182025-11-08 15:57

That has always been my favorite Johnny arc. He’s always been smart but he wants to prove to his family that he’s capable of being more than just a ladies man and someone who’s a show off.

LunimusREX2025-11-08 17:13

Right. I was thinking that they never showed that side of him in the other movies, and not often in comics, so it was nice to see.

RAK-472025-11-09 05:49

I feel like even the perception of him being a bit of Ladies Man was something he wasn't that comfortable with, and that the rest of the family would tease him about, which I thought was a really nice take.

Edit: more reflective of original comment.

LunimusREX2025-11-09 06:42

Totally agree. The humor was tempered down and they didn't make him th prankster. They definitely did character some justice that hasn't been seen on screen before.

camxcold2025-11-08 21:39

I rewatched it last night and definitely appreciate that they made Johnny intelligent and contribute more to the team compared to just being a jock ladies man like in the previous films. My only gripe was Ben didn’t clobber enough, hopefully he gets some good smack down scenes in doomsday.

abnthug2025-11-10 00:59

I thought the cast was great, I just feel like this movie didn’t do them justice. I do definitely appreciate seeing Johnny as something other than a jock though. I feel like this should have been a sequel to a previous F4 movie.

Greygor2025-11-12 12:40

Yeah, its 4 years since they became the heroes. Ben's had time to adjust and Johnny has matured a little. Although I enjoyed Evans in the same role, it sort of felt like a teenager in an adult's body, a Jock that never grew up. I like the new take