The Fantastic Four: First Steps Disney+ Release Discussion Thread
The Fantastic Four: First Steps has now been released on Disney+ and this is the discussion thread to share your thoughts, theories, and all other general reactions!
Please use this thread for any new Fantastic Four-related discussions, as any new threads regarding discussion of the movie will be removed for the next few days.
Enjoy those rewatches!
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* [https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m8gdug/the\_fantastic\_four\_first\_steps\_worldwide\_release/](https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m8gdug/the_fantastic_four_first_steps_worldwide_release/)
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m76tsi/the\_fantastic\_four\_first\_steps\_international/](https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m76tsi/the_fantastic_four_first_steps_international/)
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m6ijvk/the\_fantastic\_four\_first\_steps\_review\_thread/](https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m6ijvk/the_fantastic_four_first_steps_review_thread/)
Please use this thread for any new Fantastic Four-related discussions, as any new threads regarding discussion of the movie will be removed for the next few days.
Enjoy those rewatches!
Links to previous discussion threads are listed below:
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m8gdug/the\_fantastic\_four\_first\_steps\_worldwide\_release/](https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m8gdug/the_fantastic_four_first_steps_worldwide_release/)
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m76tsi/the\_fantastic\_four\_first\_steps\_international/](https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m76tsi/the_fantastic_four_first_steps_international/)
* [https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m6ijvk/the\_fantastic\_four\_first\_steps\_review\_thread/](https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/comments/1m6ijvk/the_fantastic_four_first_steps_review_thread/)
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I’m about an hour into it. Not really a fan.
Edit: Finally finished it. I’ll lump it in with Dark World, Love & Thunder, Brave New World, and the Ant-Man films as ones I’ll never intentionally watch again.
F4: First Steps was... pretty standard fare. The problem I guess is not a lot stood out for me.
I actually quite enjoy the first Ant-Man, much more than this.
In the current box office environment, that’s an okay improvement.
Two billion+ films on deck for next year.
But yeah for years ever since phase 4 started people were like Marvel needs to focus on Fantastic Four and the X-Men because they are who the fans truly want to see and they'll be assured hits
And even before we saw the dip in quality on MCU projects, i was more "Lets slow down okay?" because we have to remember that the Fantastic Four still has to deal with the baggage of the previous films especialllllly the 2015 one, that almost of the casual people may be hesistant about giving this one a chance because Fox stained the brand (I compare it to Transformers. Paramount and Bay stained the brand name after 5 films that by the time we finally got films that were received well, people didn't showed up because when they see Transformers, they think of the Bay ones)
Galactus was a bit weak and felt like an avengers level threat at best instead of someone who should be on par with someone like Arishem. The only powers shown for him were being big and one use of telekinesis that he oddly decided not to use at all during the final fight. Shalla Bal put up a better fight than he did. (On a side note her speech at the beginning was phenomenal.) He did however look absolutely amazing visually.
Vanessa Kirby pleasantly surprised me though, her acting was a standout to me. She has the best chemistry with everyone.
Decent film but I thought Thunderbolts was a league above this.
I do agree that Ben didn’t really get enough of a story, though.
The “how badass would this guy be if he was entirely in control of himself” question is part of his character identity, and Marvel occasionally answers it. There is a whole arc where he’s Lifebringer and gold instead of purple and he’s a total BAMF going on quests for like Infinity.
Really hope we see him be op in his next marvel movie appearance would be cool if they showed him eating a planet and hurting high tiers like thor and sentry
Even if he wasn’t trying that hard at first for some reason, he should start to try hard after they proved they can successfully escape from his ship, and even more so when they were able to burn his eyes. Idk why he wouldn’t be putting in full effort here.
Stupid question, but the deleted scene with Sue and that mole person got me thinking: couldn't Sue put an aneurysm in Galactus' head lmao
Plus like, Galactus was able to accelerate her pregnancy just by *looking at her*. Even if you could put a bubble in his head, he might do something worse with just a look.
This movie turns it a bit backwards by making Franklin the Power Cosmic, I'm sure they have a plan for it though.
Good luck. Cut each other some slack and remember it gets easier.
Sent it to my coworkers haha
Happy it’s on D+ now. To those who haven’t seen it or are going to rewatch it, enjoy!
Gonna tell my brother, who fell out of MCU fandom post-Endgame, to check this out.
I loved it, but was disappointed in the theater to the small turnout in its second week.
I like that we dive straight into the Four as a super team. Like Spiderman - we've seen the origin story before. We don't need to see it again. We can fast forward to other stuff.
Love the futuristic but retro design of Earth 828 too. Much like Fallout it's just **fun**.
Funny, but also strange.
At least its what I've seen since it hit D+ and been searching for info of the IMAX scenes.
As far as the fans are concerned, its still very open to interpretation, in terms of details.
Pacing has been an horrible issue for marvel movies as of late
I understand that would have made it a pretty long movie and they didn’t want to turn off casual moviegoers. But the box office wasn’t great and I think the improved word of mouth would have made up for the potential losses.
Hindsight is everything I suppose
Nope. This movie rules. Just outside the Top 10 for me.
His main take was watching a guy in front of a chalkboard for 2 hours doing nothing. Ben, Jonny, Silver Surfer were the only interesting parts.
I did like the speech Reed gives to his son about hoping he doesn't turn out like him.
It was a nice scene but it was the biggest "suspend disbelief" moment in the movie for me. I know they kind of hinted at her using her powers to "help" the birthing process but I really had to tell myself that it was neat and tidy before, during and after because Sue was somehow making it so. Lol
Other than that it was a really cool scene.
Galactus does seem to be a man of his word, sparing the Surfers world in exchange for her becoming his herald and finding planets to munch on.
And now I am doubly confused about the Thunderbolts* end credit scene…
Really good movie, much better than Superman. 7.5/10
Also pleasantly surprised by Johnny Storm, he kind of stole the movie and is definitely the best iteration of the character in a movie.
Such eye candy
Lastly, H.E.R.B.I.E. Is the mvp
They can take any problem and push it over there
I fully expected Superman to be significantly better based on reviews, etc. It was not. Fantastic Four was better (fine, *I* liked it better).
A lot of this came down to music. Giacchino’s score elevated this film to a next level. Whatever they did with the Superman score took it down a level.
I think the pacing on moment-to-moment bases could have been better, and so could Franklin's CGI. I like that they included the city's population as a character, but compared to how Spider-man's might have been, they felt pretty one dimensional and repetitive - background faux personalities.
It was a decent singular entry and I look more forward to seeing their dynamic in the broader and more modern MCU.
It also felt like it took way way too long to release in streaming for the kind of movie it was.
I feel like this is the first time in a fantastic 4 movie where they managed to make all characters feel smart and skilled outside of their superpower while also showing that Reed is on another level.
Like all of these characters are supposed to be scientists, why was my perception in previous movies that specifically Johnny and Ben are idiots.
Michael B. Jordan seemed pretty smart as Johnny but yeah Chris Evans was just the playboy.
Ben was just kinda there in the other movies lol
I want to preface this saying I am a marvel fan, and I loved the two fox films, but this felt a bit too low energy for me.
When I heard the film was going to start with them already having their powers, I thought great, that's a time saver, then they had a ten minute or longer montage of not only their powers but their previous battles, and it felt like time we could have been spending with them, not watching a TV show while we're watching a film.
The 60s setting felt a bit wasted, like they only remembered now and again, clothes and hair, but no one smoking?
I appreciate the Galactus upgrade, but can his ship travel faster than light or not? I assume it can, but then he cruises through our solar system at a slow pace considering how hungry he is.
How fortunate the surfer left the New York transporter intact.
They even managed to somehow make Natasha Lyonne seem flat and uninteresting.
I just really hoped for better.
I also thought he CGI on the baby was pretty bad, it was ignorable for most of the movie but kinda ruined the seriousness of the end scene.
Other than that, i was expecting to dislike it a lot more than i actually did so a pleasant experience overall. Im glad they skipped a lot of the "origins" like they did with MCU spiderman because it really isnt as interesting imo