Why are the writers / some people really into Evil Wanda?

Because she's good at it. And it's cool. I love her either way. But she's so good at being a BADDIE.

I’d wager that it’s because she’s so powerful. Playing around with Wanda’s powers, the scale of them and all she can do is more fun to explore and showcase if Wanda’s a bad guy. It's a similar thing with Jean Grey and Dark Phoenix.

I don’t really have a preference for good or bad Wanda — as long as she’s written well. Wanda being a bad destructive bitch in Multiverse of Madness was fun to watch, but it messed with her character arc in WandaVision. WandaVision got a good balance of Wanda ultimately being the bad guy and showing the scale of her powers, but having SOME nuance to that aside from ‘She’s just evil’ now.

Because her becoming a villain or at least largely being seen as one by the world is part of her comic story? You've heard of Avengers Disassembled and House of M, right? I'm not up to date on current story lines, I'm about a decade behind, but she def has some darker moments in the comics.

It's pretty much a trope at this point in the comics - really powerful women turn evil (at least temporarily). Jean Grey, Wanda, Storm, Sue Richards….

I don’t think where are into evil Wanda as much as they were into morally complex Wanda. Who was a character that stood out in era flooded with virtuous super geniuses like the young avengers.

I mean… she did start off as a ln X-men villain, no? I’m legit asking cause I’m not sure. Also, being so powerful but also so vulnerable from trauma… it makes sense one would be so vulnerable to turn to the dark side.

For MoM, I would imagine that it’s basically the MCU stand-in for the Disassembled part of her madness arc from the comics, except with the Darkhold/Chthon being the driving force behind it. It does seem like that part is going to be over if she comes back given them seemingly setting up Children’s Crusade.

As for Zombies and the VR game, I would imagine that her power set allows them to fit her into whatever villain slot they want/need for the story. Both of them were also likely attempting to capitalize on WV and MoM when they were being put together.

Because Olsen's really into it.

Because powerful woman with goals are EEEEEVIL to weak men.

Because a villain can easily be a complex multi-layered character. It's more fun.

Evil women are hot?

I genuinely think is mostly because of the whole mommy dom trend going around on the fandom.

Wanda has never been a traditionally, buttoned up good guy. Even in the comics, she does some super questionable - universe altering things that really, really screwed some people over. So when she goes darkside, it's just her being her.

We all have bad days.

people sometimes just really like a very toxic girl boss

Wanda in the comics has frequently gone back and forth between being a hero and villain. This isn't exclusive to Marvel Studios, this is like a long standing aspect of her character

She was only a villain once in the main MCU. I don’t see the big deal

I understand why in on-screen appearances they chase this white whale, and its because she genuinely had arguably the biggest impact a single character could have on a comic book universe and she did it as a misunderstood villain. Writers are desperate to meet that mark for film & tv

Now is probably the best time for them to get those stories off.

Rule of cool. She's a cool villain, emotionally complex and visually stunning.

I don't mind that she's bad, especially after Marvel Zombies. But the way it was handled in MoM was appalling.

She's a fascinating character, regardless of where on her story arc she is.

Classic case of what if the most powerful hero was evil. Elizabeth olsen played the part very well. And handy Wanda been a villain before? Or had a checkered past. She can be redeemed.

Idk why is everyone so obsessed with punisher and daredevil? Or doctor doom? Or specifically "savage" hulk?

Because it's easy to make her evil and hard to write her as good but struggling with a dark side.

How do you expect her to NOT be bad as a zombie?

It's not that Wanda is written to be evil, it's that she's written to be a tragic character. She's basically a "What If someone is always getting shit on by the universe like Peter Parker, but without being written to always rally and come back each time the way he is."

I mean her character is more often than not a villain or at least antagonist in the comics no?

It gives so much weight to her “you took everything from me” line to Thanos in Endgame. Then you watch WandaVision and follow that story line. She’s not evil, she’s broken from grief.

After surviving the shelling as a kid to watching her brother die in front of her to having to kill Vision to watching it not matter in the end and watching him die again I certainly think any writing showing her as a hero would be silly

Imagine being able to challenge God but you decide instead to follow mankind’s rules…

It doesn’t make sense. She needs to be a force of nature not just some girl in a team.


Cause she’s a complex character

I like her as a baddie

1) She’s terrifyingly good at it! Olsen got those acting chops.

2) It makes sense plot wise. She’s been through a lot of trauma. Dead parents at young age. Grew up poor. Tested on. Dead brother. Her country was almost destroyed not to mention the guilt of helping almost making that happen. Accidentally caused deaths of innocents. Had to kill the love of her life. Only to have to watch him die. Only to have to create one and watch him leave. Then realized there was a universe in which she had children but she would never have that.. it’s all there

3) It’s a different take on a character. We’ve seen plenty of redemption arcs. But haven’t seen a character go from good to bad. And she’s not even really bad. Darkhold was responsible

Because she is an evil witch? It's fitting.

Because she is a powerful emotionally unstable character.

As a Wanda fan, I see both sides. I think Scarlet Witch is best when she's a hero with a poetic justice code - that's where comic Wanda is and typically was. It's also where Wanda has been for most of her MCU era and where I'd like her to return in the future.

I will say, though, it's fun watching her be bad. The power dynamic of it all is thrilling to watch I think psychologically we all just appreciate an underdog story and it's really easy to scale Crazy Scary Reality Warper Oh No in people's brains. (Everything Everywhere All At Once did it phenomenally btw.)

Another thing is she's typically presented in a dramatic fashion. She's a very soap opera character. Because she's either Romani and straightforward or Sokovian and blunt, her manner of speaking is very direct/specific and this allows for a lot of emotional or threatening lines that might not work for another character with less history or a different personality (or, occasionally, worse acting prowess).

I like to have 2 Cakes. Main Wanda, whether that be 616 or Other-616, is a hero - Lore, or Zombie Wanda, or whoever - can be the villainous Wanda. I love having 2 Cakes.

It’s more interesting to make Wanda complex, instead of straight up good guy like 99% of the MCU

Cuz it’s hott

Because they’re unwilling to do something with her and evil Wanda is easy.

It was a glimpse of the MCU without kid gloves. It touched on powerful drama and personal stories. It felt like there were stakes. 

Wanda stans are so fucking exhausting.

Wanda was the villain in Wandavision

Morality is ever changing for some people. It makes for a more complex and well rounded character

Olsen is selling the hell out of the role, which has resonated well with audiences, and the character is not the most stable so it's fair to push and pull her around through complicated moral/ethical areas.

Cause people are into evil baddies? I mean have you seen some of the stuff people have made for the Disney villains?

She was first introduced in the MCU as an antagonist, it fits with her character, I like it

You ever read the comics?

she was a villain in the comics before she became a hero (and then turned villain again for one major crossover arc)

personally, I like the idea of Wanda breaking bad, but I think its been handled poorly.

Woman gets big powers=woman turns evil

Man gets big powers=man fine

Non-Binary person get big powers=this is Hollywood non binary people don’t exist here

It's kind of boring to write a character like this as a good guy ngl

Honestly, I just like the idea of having a reverse Loki.

Villain -> Hero, Loki.

Hero -> Villain, Wanda.

It's just great.

Was she evil in the MCU again and again. Marvel Zombies and Multiverse of Madness. WandaVision it was merky as she was being used alot.

Really, I found her to be a tragic villain or at least a hero lost her way. Her power makes her dangerous. In the comics too. But grief had her make some choices that went the wrong way. I guess you cannot fully appreciate good choices until you see more iffy ones.

She’s hot

There is a long game to be played with Wanda if they want. She is extraordinarily powerful, and quite mentally unstable. She had a bad day season (Wandavision) and tried to handle it. It led to a bad day (MoM) where she once again lost control. If they decide to resurrect her, and I hope they do, then she's going to need help. She's going to need to develop through that help. She has a lot of grief to let go of. When she does, she's going to feel much better. Things will go much better for her. Unfortunately, she's still unstable.

Long game.

If anything she is never evil, there is always "something extra" that makes her "evil".

They never commit, even on House of M, she was being manipulated and to answer why, her powers are so big that makes for a big villain who most of the time is still a little human.

What’s your problem? It works, she’s awesome either way she acts!

…and she’s not evil to be evil; she’s either confused, blinded by pain and suffering or misguided by the darckhold.

I like it when Wanda's powers are strong but random, like she blasts a guy but his costume turns into Swiss cheese (literally) and he runs away screaming. Or she trust to heal a flower but then it grows a foot tall but with bat wings and a eye ball pops out then fellows her around.

Not sure, I’m not a fan of it and I think MoM was a train wreck because of it

Probably because the Avengers don’t exist anymore.

Because the storyline made sense, she had so many such traumatic events that made her mentally breakdown, of course that is relatable to people for one but then it makes the way she is thinking and her bad actions make sense.

You do need to have hours and hours of backstory to understand it all and I could see how people who don’t watch the shows or whatever wouldn’t understand why she’s bad.

I like being the big boss of zombies too, I mean who else would it be right?

Because pre-MCU popularity, Wanda has always been written as a morally grey hero with frequent predispositions for villainy or mind control/descent into power corruption. It wasn't until Wanda's newfound popularity via MCU that Marvel's writers started embracing her superhero identity for good without having her experience another period of mental instability.

Historically, most fictional depictions of Wanda often portrayed her as an antihero who eventually comes around and realizes the implications of her misdeeds. Coupled with the fact that pre-MCU Wanda was often associated with being Magneto's daughter, a figure that was also associated with villainy and being morally grey before his current reformed self.

Because marvel thinks making your heros evil is a cheat code for good writing (it isn't)

She hasn't been evil except in maybe zombies. If what she says is true in zombies tho she could be the hero for all we know

Because one of the greatest heroes in 616 is Wanda Maximoff.
... And one of the greatest villains in 616 is Wanda Maximoff.

(This moment in comics lives rent-free in my head. I re-read Avengers Disassembled, and House of M once a year.)


Wanda is neither "hero" nor "villain"... that's literally her entire character arc.

It’s not strictly “evil” Wanda, it’s Wanda who fully realizes her powers and will do anything to have the children she loves back. Really, most of us would do that if we had the abilities she does. It’s an understandable motivation. And she’s corrupted by the Darkhold — if you’ve watched Agents of Shield, you understand the dangers of that book better.

They wanted their own evil Jean Grey...her hair becoming more red color too..😄

It’s honestly hard for me to think of her as anything but a danger to herself and the whole world after the decimation. Krakoa went a long way in healing her relationship with the mutants but I love these characters and she’ll always be the stand-in for editorial treating them horribly just because a Nazi couldn’t make movies with them.

I like her as a villain but want redemption for her and have her be good again.

she is strong, that makes her a better villain than a hero , do you know how much effort writers need to put to make a villain that would be worth battling scarlet witch, considering how lazy marvel writers are, you can't expect them to put that much effort into something

Because she obliterated the mutants at one point I guess

> why are people assuming that Wanda was an evil being in the comics at all

I don’t think people care. Comics don’t matter.

For every hundred people that go to the cinema to watch a Marvel movie, I’d bet less than 10 have ever read a comic. I’d bet only 1 or 2 is a regular comic reader. It’s just not an audience that has ever mattered to Marvel Studios.

Why are any writers into any evil character?

They find said character fits the villain role for the story they want, this really isn’t complicated.

For me because I don’t think it’s that that deep and Elizabeth Olsen seems like she’s having a blast being a villain.

I don’t think she’s evil at heart but I really do like seeing her as a villain. Shes just a really cool villain idk

Because it is a main trait of her, that conflict is what makes her interesting. If she was just a good two shoes that never did anything wrong, she be super boring.

She was a hero until we saw her with her full power.

Wanda is not a bad person. And she is extremely powerful. We literally saw her single handedly destroy Thanos. Before that Infinity War we saw her demolishing Thanos's armies. She can solve a lot of the issues in MCU singlehandedly.

You can't have Wanda to be a permanent hero. You either make her stay out for some reason like oh no I need to be with Vision moment but that would get stale really quick, depower her which wouldn't sit well with most of us, scale the threats up to her level which would make the other characters look quite useless or turn her (semi)evil.

Closest things we have Wanda in power scaling are Cpt Marvel and Thor. Cpt Marvel didn't appear until IW because story literally kept her out, then again until the very end of Endgame. So she gets the stay out of the way so we have troubles handling the problems treatment which gets the backlash.

Thor on the other hand gets constant nerfs. Odin got his powers away, He broke up with Jane he is depressed, he lost his father he is depressed, Asgard destroyed he is depressed, He couldn't kill Thanos he is depressed and fat. I don't think I need to say what is the reaction to Thor constantly getting nerfed.

So for Wanda, turning evil route is actually good. I don't think people's issue in general is that she turned evil, the issue was her turning evil contradicted Wandavision which is one of the best recieved Disney+ shows. If that set up her turning evil better or she took time to turn evil after that I don't think anybody would have an issue

The new Jean Grey 🤣🤣

Honestly I liked it. But I wanted Infinity Hulk to crush her just like he did it with Thor😂

She is bad in zombies cause she is a zombie lol

Elizabeth Olsen's Scarlet Witch as a villain is delicious. It really is that simple.

Evil Wanda was such a great character. I loved her. I can totally fix her.

Wanda has arguably been villainous to some degree all along. In Age of Ultron she joined Ultron for the express purpose of "destroying the Avengers" (her words. But "destroy" means "kill".) Up until that point she had a beef against Stark since one of his missiles nearly killed her when she was a kid, but the other Avengers had nothing to do with that. And when she fought the Avengers she sent Hulk into a rampage and pointed him at a populated city (Johannesburg I think.) She didn't seem to care about the massive casualties an enraged Hulk could (and probably did) cause. According to Maria Hill the authorities were considering arresting Banner over the Hulk's Johannesburg rampage, so I'm going to assume people died there. Those deaths are Wanda's fault. And she only joined the Avengers when it was clear Ultron meant to kill the entire human race.

After that she took control of Westview, and if Agatha Harkness didn't screw up Wanda's spell, there's a chance the people of Westview would still be Wanda's puppets even now. I think her turn to being a relentless killing machine in Multiverse Of Madness could have been handled more subtly and more time should have been spent showing Wanda succumbing to the influence of the Darkhold and losing her sanity. But I don't think it was completely out of character either.

Well.. She read the Darkhold and doing that makes you evil. However, she overcame that at the end of MoM, so that means she's a fundamentally good person.

Because she’s more interesting as a villain (in the movies and shows at least).

People like Evil Wanda because she’s a believable fall from grace. Her grief and power make her darkness feel real it’s less evil, more watching someone break.

evil wanda is cool and fun, its real simple. question is why are you against it?


"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." or something

It's easier to make Wanda bad than good due to her power set.

There's not many reality warpers who are consistently portrayed as heroes. Mainly because that ability is difficult to write around in a story.

But as a villain, it's a really challenging foe for heroes to overcome.

She was "bad" in comics so that was an arc they pulled from and they were popular arcs. It's crazy how well developed she has become for such a redundant character at the beginning. I've always liked her.

She has been my favorite female in comics for a long time . Personally she works well as a hero or a villain . The issue I have with her is when they rush her fall to villainy like in the mcu or skip her redemption/aftermath of villainy.

It interestingly sort of bucks a trend for female villains in recent stories.

Disney reinvented classics to turn Maleficent and Cruella DeVille into good guys. DC has been trending Catwoman, Harley Quinn, and even Poison Ivy more and more towards heroics in recent years. Meanwhile the MCU has taken a female hero and gone full villain with her.

I’m with you! I hate the whole Evil Wanda thing! I think she absolutely got done dirty by the writers because for some reason people decide powerful women must be evil.

I even got harassed in a Harry Potter sub recently because I said I think it’s strange to get a death eater tattoo and the reply was “well you cosplay Scarlet Witch, whose evil, so you’re a hypocrite.” Which was infuriating because 1. That’s not the same, and 2. WANDA ISN’T A VILLAIN IN THE COMICS OR MOST THE MOVIES! Drives me nuts.

Laziness is the path with less resistance for writers who don't want to deal with the complex character, like in WandaVision. That why we have the terrible interpretation of the Dr.Strange 2 Movie