If we get a sequel to Fantastic Four then I really want them to focus more on how overwhelming Reed's intelligence is
This was a really interesting part of the movie, but there was so much going on that they weren't really able to spend a whole lot of time on it.
Now that the characters have been established, it would be nice to go deeper and show just overwhelming it is to be "the smartest man alive."
Now that the characters have been established, it would be nice to go deeper and show just overwhelming it is to be "the smartest man alive."
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People knock on the 2015 movie but when it was revealed Teller Reed could passively use his powers to look like a WHOLE DIFFERENT PERSONA that was an awesome and unique ability I didn't even fathom until that movie
They really emphasized it if anything, given how his intelligence was at the forefront of the film much more than his powers.
What happens when the world finds out they lied? What happens when they find out they lied, AND they fail to stop Galactus on their own? They'd abandon their morals AND doom the planet. Telling the truth sucks sure, but Reed cares about doing what's right, not what's comfortable.
He will compromise on that later, but not in this story.
As someone above already has said it, him telling the world about Galactus brought in the global supplies and support to actually pull off the Earth transportation. They almost succeeded because of the collective, and lying about it wouldn't have done that as the seriousness would've lost
And no, they could’ve still said that Galactus was coming. They didn’t have to tell everyone about his offer to take the baby and spare the Earth. In that case they still would’ve gotten the global support without any of the backlash.
She-Hulk ate his kids so he uh, lost his shit a little
It would’ve been really cool if the rest called him out for it afterwards.
Smartest man in the world made a stupid call to be honest when he felt he was in over his head.
It reviewed at 86% with reviewers, 90ish for audiences. Did it make bank? Hell no. Did it lose money? Hell no. Did it make some money? Yep
Those two things alone dwarf 616 Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, and Shuri's accomplishments.
But Reed had it and worked about it extensively in the movie. He had a FTL spaceship for f's sake, he could map star sytems across crazy distances, and if the similarity between the Tech in his world and the TVA is to be considered, that's even crazier because that's not just Time Travel, that's control over the Time Dimension. But we don't onow yet exactly how the TVA came to be so maybe a doubtful point.
Now obviously, it's on the director and Marvel to choose characterization, but Reed is definitely smarter than Tony in the MCU (I haven't read many comics, so will stick to the MCU)
Reed would have to guarantee a similar Star system, a moon, cosmic entities and what not. That's too big a scale to imagine, let alone guarantee, I think. But it's equally hard to imagine time travel, to even understand it.
Tony:
-takes idea from Scott
-runs it through a program to find out if its possible
-uses already existing tech from Hank to help build it
While Reed:
-completely on his own idea (or from another FF member i don’t remember)
-does every calculation to figure out if it’s possible
-invents everything by himself
Tony had quite an impressive feat, but if we say time travel and teleportation are equal I think Reed takes the cake
By then they would either have figured out how to face Galactus or can just teleport back to the solar system. There's also the fact Franklin would have time to grow up and master his powers by then and could possibly go toe to toe with Galactus.
I think the setting being old-school, silver-age, and them never really emphasizing his most insane scientific breakthroughs, it just softens the impact of his intellect by a huge factor. Also, Reed was more emotional this time out. I mean, hard to be your smartest you when you're dreading the loss of your newborn.
I dunno, feels like they did his intelligence justice.
After saving the world, Reed Richards becomes obsessed with unlocking a “cosmic equation” that could explain all realities. His genius begins to consume him—he starts seeing and hearing a mysterious figure, Dr. Victor, who claims there’s an interdimensional war only Reed can stop.
As Reed’s hallucinations grow stronger, he alienates Sue, Johnny, and Ben, and nearly destroys the Baxter Building trying to “decode” cosmic signals. He’s eventually diagnosed with “cosmic psychosis,” a form of radiation-induced schizophrenia.
Sue remains by his side, helping him realize that Dr. Victor is a delusion born from guilt over his old rival, Victor Von Doom. Accepting his condition, Reed learns to live with his mind’s shadows while focusing on his family and using his brilliance more humbly.
The film ends with Reed lecturing about the fine line between genius and madness, acknowledging that not all heroes save the world; some just learn to save themselves.
And more action scenes for Sue Johnny Ben
The first type of genius is a rain-man type savant. They aren’t always smart, but they have an unreasonable knowledge of things. They can do complex maths in their head and know lots about whatever obscure trivia is relevant to the plot. But what they know is real, and the studio might even have a scientific advisor or some other expert fleshing this out. Examples would be Sherlock Holmes, The Accountant, Good Will Hunting, A Beautiful Mind, The Imitation Game etc.
The second is a parody of the first , ie the idiots idea of what a smart person is. This is a genius with a capital J. They can make a Time Machine in their garage, they can hack a satellite with a phone, they can create a new element in their basement. They speak in technobabble that sounds impressive but means nothing, and every problem can be solved by “reversing the polarity” or “recalibrating the quantum matrix.” Examples would be Tony Stark (sometimes) , Doc Brown, and pretty much every hacker.
The key difference is that the first type operates within (or at least near) the bounds of reality, while with the second type,the writer treats intelligence as a superpower that makes the plot convenient rather than writing the plot such that the characters earning their solutions.
Reed Richards is doing all kinds of super-complicated math and science on that thing. Tony Stark and Shuri had super-advanced computers and AI to help them do their tasks. Reed didn’t, and he built an FTL drive and was about to teleport an entire planet across a distance of light-years. Dude is *wicked* smart.