New concept art for Elektra Peggy Carter Variant in ‘What If...?’ Season 3
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ROBtimusPrime19952025-11-04 19:12
I know people enjoyed the show, but to me, What If...? really lost the plot.
pje11282025-11-04 19:17
I enjoyed it for what it was, but it had so much more potential that they never touched. The specific What Ifs they chose were such strange decisions.
isaidwhatisaidok2025-11-04 19:19
So many premises that absolutely no one ever asked lol
girlsgoneoscarwilde2025-11-04 19:27
The show did a great job at helping actors under contract fulfill a portion of their legal obligations.
santa99912025-11-04 19:46
This.
So many random side characters who don’t fit into the story at all, just thrown in there cause they could get their actor to voice and can attach a name
ketita2025-11-04 19:42
Basically "What if we told you a not-particularly-interesting story about a question nobody cared about?"
indianajoes2025-11-04 19:28
Same. I was done a couple episodes into season 2. If they were actual what if stories that were standalone things, I'd have been into it. But they kept trying to tie everything together and used Captain Carter too much. I love Peggy but that's not why I started watching this show
BarackaFlockaFlame2025-11-04 19:32
then they showed a samurai ghost rider variant in the end credits and it pissed me off that we got soooo much of one character when the appeal of the show was different variants with neat little stories. completely lost the plot.
SonicFlash012025-11-04 23:06
Right? Like it was a slideshow of far more interesting shit than what they spent a good chunk of each season doing
We also got shoehorned into "whoever they could get the voice actors for that season".
Araanim2025-11-04 19:41
Also they're not even like "one small change causing a butterfly effect" anymore. It's like "what if absolutely everything about this story was completely different?" Like, okay I guess?
minyhumancalc2025-11-04 20:18
And even then, their ideas felt so limited. When the plot was something thats not really "What If", half of the time, it was just some shitty cover for a good 80s movie (Die Hard, Blade Runner, etc.)
There are good episodes, but 75% of the time was just a pathetic attempt at alternative history. I'm guessing Disney partially got in the way of storylines, but even still, each season got worse and worse. If you wanna do fantasy alternative universes, do something beyond having 5 characters becoming Power Rangers and if youre gonna do alternative history, dont just mimic MCU plots (most things Captain Carter and Bucky-related).
Its a meh show with some good episodes (Strange Supreme and Killer Hank were my 2 personal highlights), but considering what was on the table, to me, it's worse than Secret Invasion
Smash192025-11-04 20:30
Strange? Who am I to judge.
AlistarDark2025-11-04 20:56
What if Yondu kidnapped this other guy for no reason? What if Spider-man didn't have a hyphen? What if Doctor Strange wasn't a Doctor, but pretended to be a doctor and was actually a chiropractor? What if Thor decided to party all the time with Eddie Murphy provided the soundtrack? What if Adele was actually a singing alien that fought Thanos?
Those options would have been a lot better than the show we got.
InnocentTailor2025-11-04 19:23
It just became too safe, in my opinion - not large deviations from canon, which made it both boring and unambitious.
colbyxclusive2025-11-04 19:24
No it gained one. Thats the problem they serialized What if and made it the Peggy Carter vs the Multiverse show instead of continuing to theorize what if plots.
Edited for redundancy. My bad.
Markus28222025-11-04 19:42
Sure if you ignore literally every episode besides her singular ones per season and the finales. Yknow stuff like the Christmas special, Kahhori, Doctor stranges episode, the zombies episode, party Thor and Howard the duck, the blade runner homage episode, the tchalla star lord episode, the mech avengers episode, the Wild West episode etc etc.
Sure besides like 80% of the show, it’s totally her show /s
(Genuinely how do yall believe this? She’s in like 6 episodes out of around 30.)
Edit: did the math 73% of the show doesn’t feature her at all. Please explain how it’s her show when she’s in barely over a quarter of it? lol
ViftieStuff2025-11-04 19:52
I believe this sentiment comes from the ending of the show primarily. Many shows are ruined for people because of the ending, as you just commited to aomething for multiple hours and that occupied headspace for days, maybe weeks, just to be disappointed by an ending that makes no sense/is unexpected/badly written/etc.
They gave a show with infinite potential a finale that revolved mainly about Peggy Carter, not to mention her sequel episodes. Seeing as she is the only character to appear in 27% of the show, it makes sense for people to say "it's all about peggy".
Markus28222025-11-04 20:16
It’s still false. Eternity is integral to Love and Thunder, would you say it’s right for someone to call a character with like 3 lines of dialogue and like 5 mins of screen time the main character of a 2 hour movie? Being integral to the ending doesn’t make you a main character, that’s just false.
Yes I do think people can be let down, however I do want to clarify some falsehoods here.
1. It makes perfect sense, I can easily explain everything about the ending. (With the exclusion of why Storm is randomly there, that one I’ll admit is odd, but doable to explain).
2. It is not unexpected at all. The entire premise of the show is The Watcher, if he will intervene and what will happen if he does. Him facing the consequences of his actions for doing that is like being surprised that a serial killer in a tv show gets found out about. It’s very obvious and clear from the beginning.
Bad writing is subjective, personally I loved it, but I totally respect anyone who doesn’t. If you think it’s bad, fair I encourage you to say it’s bad, scream it at the top of your lungs. But don’t say it with falsehoods. I hate Love and Thunder, I don’t hate it because Batman isn’t there. If I said i hated the movie because of that it would be ridiculous. If you hate What If, cool don’t say you hate it because Captain Carter is the main character, because that’s ridiculous.
The finale is objectively not about Peggy Carter and wildly explores the infinite aspect of the series, as the above picture proves. Peggy is there, but she’s not the main focus in the slightest. This is like suggesting Infinity War isn’t about gathering the Infinity Stones but is rather entirely about Captain America. Another ridiculous claim imo. They go through so many endless possibilities in this episode it’s actually insane that’s absolutely the focus along with the consequences of the watchers actions.
Many characters got sequel episodes, this was wanted. In fact many people loved the recently released zombies series which is an entire sequel series. I don’t think her having sequels is the problem since people liked that.
False. The Watcher appears in 100% of the episodes. It makes no sense for someone to say that it’s all about her. Imagine if I said “Daredevil is all about Brett Mahoney” or “Iron Man is entirely about Agent Coulson” or my above Eternity in Love and Thunder example. She’s a minor character at best (appearance wise), who plays an undoubtedly important role. Claiming she’s a main character in this series over The Watcher, or even at all, is utterly insane and I don’t understand how people are defending it. If you just hate the character say that, because saying she’s the main character is nuts
brbmycatexploded2025-11-04 19:54
They quite literally made her the focal point of the climax of the series my guy.
Markus28222025-11-04 19:57
Okay? So? Eternity is the focal point of the climax of Thor Love and Thunder. Would you say she’s the most important character of that movie over Thor, Jane or Gorr? She has like 3 minutes of screen time and like 2 lines. Characters can be important and not be the main character
brbmycatexploded2025-11-04 20:24
If she had been a main character of the trilogy since the beginning, like Peggy has been? Yes lmao. Absolutely yes.
Markus28222025-11-04 20:29
Okay so say Eternity showed up for the same amount of time in every Thor movie, like let’s say 5 minutes max with 5 lines. Eternity is **THE** main character over idk Thor?
Thats absolutely ridiculous imo.
Nobody ever goes “Brett Mahoney is the main character of Daredevil” despite him having a pivotal role in the series’ climax’s. Because you don’t say that about side characters who aren’t there that much. The main character is obviously the person who appears and has the main arc across the entire series. Like yknow The Watcher.
VanillaBear99152025-11-04 19:58
Thats honestly too much for one character tbh. You have a vault of thousands of characters and keep going back to the most boring one.
Markus28222025-11-04 20:00
I don’t think there’s that many MCU characters, probably 200 hundred ish that are actually worth diving into and most are featured in some way shape or form in What If, so I really don’t see the problem.
Also do you carry this opinion for the mcu phases 1-3 who arguably does this with Captain America who she’s literally based on? Why do they keep on going back to the most boring character?
Ghost_Of_Malatesta2025-11-04 20:00
Over an entire quarter of the entire show dedicated to one-off alternate versions of events focuses on 1 singular, reoccurring character, in an IP with literally hundreds of characters
Markus28222025-11-04 20:03
Correct.
That’s a vast overestimate, I’d say there’s a pool of maaaybe 200 characters the mcu can really pull from for a series like this.
What is the problem with having a throughline mirroring a main character the MCU did the exact same thing with, especially when you already featured most everyone in the MCU? Many popular ones several times?
starpendle2025-11-04 22:33
I never checked out S3 because I just peaced out when the S2 finale felt like somebody's fan fic. Here's Peggy Carter with every infinity stone and notable weapon (Thor's hammer, Hela's helmet, the ten rings) in the MCU...
Fododel2025-11-05 09:53
Shit almost sounds like the current Storm riding.
Delicious-Explorer582025-11-04 19:26
It stopped being “What If..?” and turned into random alternate dimensions.
Also, they could’ve done so much more with the concept than just “cowboy Shang Chi.”
TheBiggestCarl232025-11-04 19:49
I think it’s always been mostly bad with a couple episodes sprinkled in that are solid
It’s just a waste of time honestly
karafuto2025-11-04 19:54
It was a mixed bag... The Nebula and Dr Strange episodes were very good
RedHotShowoff2025-11-04 20:15
There was so much potential to get really weird, and I was expecting to see so much more.
What really surprises me is there was never a few episodes around IW/EG where we see the people who got snapped actually survive and the original ones who survived, would get snapped.
NK13372025-11-04 21:10
I really wish they had made it more of an anthology series and used it as an avenue to spotlight different writers/artists. I would love to see an animatrix/love death and robots style show where they actually explore different What ifs using different animation styles and all
isaidwhatisaidok2025-11-04 19:12
Thank god this didn’t happen. Enough with fucking Peggy already.
AdditionalBanana95852025-11-04 19:13
It did happen. This was part of the series finale.
isaidwhatisaidok2025-11-04 19:19
Oh thanks, my brain filled in “unused” in front of concept art lol did it look this bad on the show?
SinisterCryptid2025-11-04 19:38
It’s a literal blink and you’ll miss it. Basically she’s facing off against the Ultra Watcher who wants to erase her, so he uses a beam attack that begins erasing versions of Peggy Carter from the multiverse as they shoot out her back. They’re just Easter eggs but there’s a lot of them shown rapidly
isaidwhatisaidok2025-11-04 19:42
Ah, thanks
L00ps_Ahoy2025-11-04 19:18
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isaidwhatisaidok2025-11-04 19:18
Yeah that’s partly why I didn’t watch, the amount of fucking Peggy.
thatsidewaysdud2025-11-04 19:25
Ok, but like why did this series even need a main character? Who genuinely cared about the Captain Carter multiverse stuff? It took away from the actual What If scenarios.
Responsible_Egg75192025-11-04 19:28
She has really overstayed her welcome
BridgerRT572025-11-04 19:13
man this is the wild stuff i wanted to see. what if had such MCU synergy when it really should have taken some deep pulls from the Marvel landscape. wish we had more Elektra and other semi-forgotten characters to the main Marvel lineup
JBTriple2025-11-04 19:43
You're upset that the show specifically meant to explore alternate scenarios in the MCU depicted its characters consistently with the MCU?
BridgerRT572025-11-04 19:45
not upset, i enjoyed each season. i was hoping for some more characters and mix ups if anything. animation opens a lot of possibilities and i thought Marvel could have done more with these scenarios
32mafiaman2025-11-04 19:17
Why do they have such an obsession with Peggy?!!!
KexyAlexy2025-11-04 19:41
I think they just tried to connect the What if...? episodes together, and Peggy just happened to be a suitable character for that. The first season episode with Captain Carter was good.
But that kind of continuation also brings it's own limitations, as they need to introduce all the characters they need on the last episodes. They can't focus as much on what the fans might have considered as "What if?" scenarios.
And I really don't think that they should have continued Peggy's multiverse story after season 1.
These_Wish_51012025-11-04 19:18
White washing
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-04 19:20
I hate this art style so much….that’s a man’s body for a female character…….
Edit: it’s a shame so many of you hate women so much you’re against seeing a feminine body
x_victoire2025-11-04 19:26
i don't know how to tell you this but women can be shredded too
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-04 19:26
Not saying they can’t be, but it doesn’t look like that when they are.
Im_not_creepy32025-11-04 19:48
The only one being hateful towards women is you. Thinking that women can't have that body type and that having muscles isn't "feminine" is incredibly misogynistic.
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-04 19:52
I’m a woman. Never said women can’t have muscles. But muscular women don’t have body structure like this. I’m tired of women having to be like men to be considered strong or formidable .
Im_not_creepy32025-11-04 20:04
Okay? Being a woman doesn't make your statements any less ignorant. There are plenty of women that have bodies like that: Jessica Buettner, Ronda Rousey, Serena Williams, Chantae McMillan, Amanda Bingson, Andrea Petkovic, Pauline Parmentier. Just to name a few.
Congrats for contributing to the patriarchal standard that women have to look a certain way to be considered feminine. You're part of the problem.
Single-Pianist-22112025-11-04 20:09
None of those women have the shoulder to hip ratio of a man. I think it’s a problem to ignore what women’s bodies actually look like and how we develop muscles and just design female characters as men with long hair.
Im_not_creepy32025-11-04 20:21
Ah, called it! You're a TERF. We're done here.
DanHelll2025-11-04 19:22
The obsession with Peggy needs to be studied.
Edit: 2 things. 1. I know this is from the what if…? finale. My statement is simply that Marvel Studios is obsessed with Peggy. 2. Yes Hayley is beautiful but that doesn’t excuse her being the main character in the What if…? Series.
Bhiggsb2025-11-04 19:32
Theres def someone at Marvel with a hard on for Peggy
Illustrious-Sign30152025-11-04 19:39
I can understand that, Hayley Atwell is fucking HOT
losdreamer502025-11-04 20:15
Hottest British woman in the world for me
Nobody_wood2025-11-04 22:46
I understand completely, but for me, it's the mongrel avenger, mother of dragons, first of her name blah blah blah.
GJH242025-11-05 00:36
Shame
Shame
Nobody_wood2025-11-05 01:33
Lol, on that front I have no shame.
BigNuggetBoii2025-11-04 21:12
I too understand why they'd want to keep working with her but why restrict her to only Peggy lol surely her voice could be applied to like a dozen characters. I'm sure she has great range
Rising-Jay2025-11-04 21:33
Yeah she’s ranged, I think she was Lara Croft in the new Tomb Raider animated show on Netflix & she’s pretty good there!
BackgroundBad63992025-11-04 22:38
I enjoyed her in Christopher robin
TheMidnightAss2025-11-04 21:38
Yeah I can't even be mad at it. I get it
TrappedInOhio2025-11-04 19:44
I mean I get that part.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-11-04 21:24
What heterosexual and bisexual male doesn’t?
idiotplatypus2025-11-04 21:27
What if Marvel was contractually obligated to put her in a certain number of movies/TV shows, and they couldn't think of anything else to put her in?
OnlinePosterPerson2025-11-04 23:10
That’s not how those contracts work
No-Understanding-9122025-11-05 00:32
I feel like there must be someone higher up that worked on the Peggy Carter tv show and got pissed it was cancelled, so now they have turned What If into a "screw you for cancelling my show."
KexyAlexy2025-11-04 19:35
There is already a scientific term for this, it's called pegging. You should Google it.
papapalporders662025-11-04 19:37
There’s even whole subreddits devoted to it!
veemonjosh2025-11-04 19:36
Hayley Atwell 🤤
Subject-Ad50712025-11-04 19:39
You guys ever heard of Felicity Smoak? They invaded Marvel lol.
Melodic-Cycle39942025-11-04 19:54
I don't even mind captain Carter I think it's a fun concept in a multiverse saga but this just looks dumb and weirdly problematic lol
Also that costume is ridiculous. Like this is animation just stick with the cheesecake
DTPVH2025-11-04 20:16
How is it problematic?
Melodic-Cycle39942025-11-04 20:28
Problematic was more meant as a joke but how do you white wash a white character doing ninja stuff
NoX21422025-11-04 21:11
Have you see that muscled up body?? It's the same reason I picked Blonde Blazer in my playthrough.
Lopendebank32025-11-04 21:31
Google Hayley Atwell.
MizterF2025-11-06 14:39
Holy hell
TheMrRisotto2025-11-04 21:33
What obsession?, this is from the What if Finale, one of the variants that shows for a frame.
Bubba12345622025-11-04 21:35
I mean to be fair. It IS Haley Atwell
CaptHayfever2025-11-05 01:01
This is from the finale, when >!the Eminence tries to purge every variant of the Guardians of the Multiverse out of said multiverse.!< It's not a new thing.
DCosloff19992025-11-05 01:24
It's like Gwen Stacy all over again
themug_wump2025-11-07 15:18
If they were that obsessed they would have just finished her series… 😔
thatsidewaysdud2025-11-04 19:23
What would have been the appeal of this What If? What am I not seeing? Who was cooking this up?
x_victoire2025-11-04 19:25
i'm so fucking tired of peggy storylines. like there's not plenty of more interesting characters to explore
BarackaFlockaFlame2025-11-04 19:33
they literally could have appealed to fans and done something epic with thor and gorr or even hercules.
timrojaz822025-11-04 19:43
What if the god butcher actually killed some gods would have been epic
BarackaFlockaFlame2025-11-04 19:46
i cannot believe how they wasted that storyline. I read the comic after I had seen the movie and I could not believe how epic the storyline was. Sure, it would have been a confusing mess if they tried to copy the story exactly, but they really made poor choices with all the stuff they left in without a glimpse at the true character of gorr
Ghost_Of_Malatesta2025-11-04 19:58
It could've worked as a duology imo, you'd have to cut too much for one film (again, imo)
BarackaFlockaFlame2025-11-04 20:01
yeah i'd have been down for that. The only thing I wouldn't have wanted is Hemsworth playing three different Thors. I would want two other similar(-ish) actors at different age groups. It could have been so epic.
as an animated film though I could see it totally working without as much change needed.
but it's definitely near the top of my list with secret wars, and king in black. truly a waste.
NK13372025-11-04 21:07
I for one can’t wait for Marvel’s into the Peggyverse
pravis2025-11-04 22:12
>i'm so fucking tired of peggy storylines. like there's not plenty of more interesting characters to explore
Exactly. People get so tired of how many storylines she got like some arcs in the What If cartoon. Let's explore heroes we have not seen much of like day Iron Man, or Thor. I mean they could use a couple more TV shows or movies right?
Heisenburgo2025-11-05 03:35
You just had to jump to two of the main protagonists of the MCU as a whole huh, when there are DOZENS of characters from the movies alone they could have explored... Holy strawman Batman.
Personal_Role_66222025-11-04 23:23
Like the actual Elektra…
DirectConsequence122025-11-04 19:25
Why?
warzone_afro2025-11-04 19:26
Peggy Thanos in season 4. Theggy Carter or Panos
Embarrassed-Dig48652025-11-04 19:34
Theggy would be a good addition to wh
ForcedxCracker2025-11-04 21:02

Portablelephant2025-11-04 19:45
"You could not live with your failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me."
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North_Shore_Problem2025-11-05 01:09
"What If Every Member of the Avengers Was Peggy Carter?"
Defiant-Analyst42792025-11-05 03:48
"Peg-engers! Assemble!"
HyruleBalverine2025-11-05 05:18
That's a different movie entirely.
jojopojo642025-11-05 18:06
I think I've seen that one
verygroot12025-11-05 02:08
Pegging Thanos
Responsible_Egg75192025-11-04 19:27
So many interesting what-ifs they could’ve done instead of 500 Peggy variants
SonOfRageNLove262025-11-04 21:23
They really just used the same variant again and again.
No-Understanding-9122025-11-05 00:32
Which is even worse
CatofKipling2025-11-04 19:28
What TF did Elodie Yung ever do that makes Disney wanna neglect her so hard? 🙄. Peggy will come back before Elektra comes back!
hotcoin7222025-11-04 19:29
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JayZsAdoptedSon2025-11-04 19:32
Hayley Atwell must have craaaazy blackmail because there cannot be that many Peggy Carter fans out there
Starwarsnerd082025-11-04 19:36
All i wanted with this show was what if the other avengers got snapped and how would endgame pan out in regards to that
jfk_472025-11-04 19:36
Is she also moonnight?
UltimateArtist8292025-11-04 19:38
Does the director or writers have a Peggy Carter fetish or something?
CaptHayfever2025-11-05 01:07
[Can](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/1c7d4b3c_f8ab_4bc2_aaef_c92ce4443e38.png) you [blame](https://www.providencejournal.com/gcdn/authoring/2015/01/05/NPRJ/ghows-PJ-40edac4d-88c4-4afd-938e-1a005d5b29f8-a90a12ad.jpeg) them?
FoxyMiira2025-11-05 07:22
I mean.. attractive actress, like most actress are. What If's obsession with the character (Peggy) seems to go beyond just because they like Haley.
Subject-Ad50712025-11-04 19:39
Fans: I want Elektra, Marvel.
Marvel: We have Elektra at home.
noodlelimbz2025-11-04 19:44
Man I just wanted to see What If's about certain marquee moments going a different way. How things would unfold from there etc. Some character fusion is cool, but not sure it should've become the overriding focus.
Sweaty-Fix-27902025-11-04 19:45
What does this mean?
santa99912025-11-04 19:45
Is there really nothing else they can do besides “what if this character was someone else”?
AerialAce962025-11-04 19:46
Better than more captain carter
whereisthehugbutton2025-11-04 19:46
You have got to be shitting me
Working_Original_2002025-11-04 19:52
No more Peggy Carter.
El_Quetzal2025-11-04 19:53
Someone at Marvel must simply LOVE peggy carter. Out every other character why is it her that gets this much attention
w1ggaw1gga2025-11-04 19:54
I am Peggy carter's number one hater
VanillaBear99152025-11-04 19:55
Of course the character I have no interest in is the one they go back to over and over.
UnfavorableSpiderFan2025-11-04 20:02
I don't hate Captain Carter as much as others seem to. I think she's used to sell the concept of the multiverse's possibilities to the general audience, and that's totally fine...
But, this is overkill. I don't care the context, I'm glad this never came to fruition.
icorrectpettydetails2025-11-04 20:34
It *did*. This is from the final episode, where the head Watcher starts erasing the Multiversal Guardians from existence and you see a bunch of different variants coming off of them. It's a literal blink-and-you'll-miss-it shot.
Purple-Nectarine832025-11-04 20:46
Yep, we could literally do the same for Storm, Kahhori and Byrdie. See if everyone’s heads explode.
Bendythenightfury2025-11-04 20:08

AlavSith2025-11-04 20:12
me who just wants what if the other half got snapped
Rayyan__212025-11-04 20:17
atp, its the writers either fetish or just severe bias for Peggy bro
WTF DID SHE EVEN DO TO RECEIVE THIS MUCH GLAZING BY THE WRITERS?
a whole ass lead in S2, pops out of nowhere to lead in S3 midway through
just frustrating, plus they MASSACRED my GOAT, Supreme Strange.
Wooden-Radish-90082025-11-04 20:23
Incel Peggy hate needs to be studied. Literally blink and you'll miss it What If Easter Egg and this whole comment section is losing their minds.
Grass wont hurt you.
senzubeam2025-11-04 20:26
Smh 🤦♂️ dude enough of Carter! There’s a ton of characters to to use cmon
WlTCH2025-11-04 20:26
They should do a Contest of Peggys
AloyAlphaprime20742025-11-04 20:27
Most people are gonna hate, but i would love this. Would have gone hard!
TempoBlues20XX2025-11-04 20:33
I swear by Season 3, What If became a complete parody of itself.
ClownsAteMyBaby2025-11-04 20:36
Hayley Atwell must be cheap as fuck if they're so willing to pay her to be in practically every episode.
drnprz2025-11-04 20:36
whaaaat? peggy as elektra ?? whaaaat?
Touchpod5162025-11-04 20:37
But whyyyyyy
DamnThatsCrazyManGuy2025-11-04 20:37
When will they learn Peggy is such a non character
AdmiralCharleston2025-11-04 20:50
It's crazy that she was so prominent because it wasn't even like atwell is a good voice actor, she was one of the most stunted in the whole show
hooka_pooka2025-11-04 20:54
So in her universe Steve Rogers was Daredevil?
The_Perezident2025-11-04 21:05
Peggy Carter as Lil Wayne for season 4
Moonshoes472025-11-04 21:08
..... Maybe Zeb Wells should read some comics he DIDN'T write for once.
also god What If would be a better show if Disney buys Warner Bros right now. IMAGINE the DC merging into MCU plot that show could have in a Season 4! it'd be awfully written yes but MAN would it be fun
SkylordN2025-11-04 21:09
I can respect it, and enjoy it, and i like Peggy Carter, but this is getting kind of ridiculous at this point, they should just call the show What If Peggy Carter? at this point.
They have SO much they could do! They don't need to put Peggy into everything!
Malibu9212025-11-04 21:24
I keep reading that headline as Carmen Electra.
ZenOfThunder2025-11-04 21:30
What If? Was my favorite comic series growing up because it was actual What If? scenarios playing off of famous storylines, like “What if Peter kept the black costume”
The show ended up being “what if Shang-Chi and Kate Bishop were cowboys” and “what if Peggy Carter stayed in on Sunday and got caught up on Emily in Paris”
Completely against the spirit of the original comics. The show should have been an opportunity to provide crazy alternate endings for the movies and nothing more. Nobody was asking for an overarching What If story. When the series was announced people assumed it would be like the comics and we barely got that.
IMO biggest missed opportunity for Marvel hands down
a_phantom_limb2025-11-04 21:53
Some people need to chill out a bit. This is just an illustration for the finale, when a bunch of variants of Peggy, Kahhori, Storm, and Byrdie are shown as Easter eggs for literally fractions of a second each.
There was never going to be an [Elektra-Peggy](https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Peggy_Carter/Elektra_Peggy_Carter) episode, just as there was never going to be an [Apocalypse-Kahhori](https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Apocalypse) episode or a [Black Panther-Storm](https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Ororo_Munroe/Black_Panther_Ororo_Munroe) episode or a [Nova-Byrdie](https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Byrdie_the_Duck/Nova_Byrdie_the_Duck) episode.
Chaleanja2025-11-04 21:54
How did this make sense? Just fusing two people together?
Miserable-Local-2025-11-04 21:58
Can they stop with Peggy already
EmpleadoResponsable2025-11-04 22:00
the design is fire but... Why fucking Peggy
sergiossa2025-11-04 22:06
This is the begging of the Peggy Carter multiverse! Peggy Carter’s Black Widow, Peggy’s Wasp, Peggy’s Rescue, Peggy’s Captain Marvel.
zeusjts0062025-11-04 22:10
My theory is that a writer has a crush on Hayley Atwell, so they would write her in many episodes so she would come in the studio to record. Then they would chicken out when they wanted to ask her out and then write more episodes for more chances. Cycle kept repeating.
VisibleMammal2025-11-04 22:32
Of course it's Peggy
Apprehensive_Gap12472025-11-04 22:35
MCI writing started to decline when they began doing series. Why couldn't they just stick with quality movies? Guess this is what happens when it gets acquired by a money hungry corporation.
ObiOne_Kenerdi2025-11-04 22:58
But why though?
Poku1152025-11-04 23:21
Post endgame really is the "someone in production likes this character so lets push the fuck outta them" era
SecondTomorrow1172025-11-04 23:28
......why...
TimMarsTheGhost2025-11-04 23:36
Make her the head of the TVA
SexualBus2025-11-04 23:54
Genuinely who cares man. Great art tho
5nbx8aa2025-11-05 00:07
but Elektra is a person's name. it's like Foggy Peggy Cater or Wanda Peggy Carter.
CaptHayfever2025-11-05 01:08
So is Thor, & yet.
Heisenburgo2025-11-05 03:36
Professor Charles Xavier Carter
Otto Octavious Peggy Carter
Negasonic Teenage Warhead Peggy Carter
No-Understanding-9122025-11-05 00:27
When do we get to see the universe where literally everyone is just Peggy Carter?
Pretty sure the What If team's heads would explode if they thought about that too much.
GJH242025-11-05 00:35
On one hand the Peggy meme is getting old.
On the other hand the CW turned Harrison Wells into a universal constant. Making Peggy be the Gwen Stacy of the MCU is kind of fun.
Particular-Long-38492025-11-05 00:37
LET HER REST GODDAMMIT
ultmjwatson2025-11-05 03:08
hear me out: instead of getting peggy to dress as elektra, hold on just bear with me here: we just got elektra.
Real-Ad-74472025-11-05 03:27
Petition to stop calling it what if and rename it as the Peggy carter show
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So many random side characters who don’t fit into the story at all, just thrown in there cause they could get their actor to voice and can attach a name
We also got shoehorned into "whoever they could get the voice actors for that season".
There are good episodes, but 75% of the time was just a pathetic attempt at alternative history. I'm guessing Disney partially got in the way of storylines, but even still, each season got worse and worse. If you wanna do fantasy alternative universes, do something beyond having 5 characters becoming Power Rangers and if youre gonna do alternative history, dont just mimic MCU plots (most things Captain Carter and Bucky-related).
Its a meh show with some good episodes (Strange Supreme and Killer Hank were my 2 personal highlights), but considering what was on the table, to me, it's worse than Secret Invasion
Those options would have been a lot better than the show we got.
Edited for redundancy. My bad.
Sure besides like 80% of the show, it’s totally her show /s
(Genuinely how do yall believe this? She’s in like 6 episodes out of around 30.)
Edit: did the math 73% of the show doesn’t feature her at all. Please explain how it’s her show when she’s in barely over a quarter of it? lol
They gave a show with infinite potential a finale that revolved mainly about Peggy Carter, not to mention her sequel episodes. Seeing as she is the only character to appear in 27% of the show, it makes sense for people to say "it's all about peggy".
Yes I do think people can be let down, however I do want to clarify some falsehoods here.
1. It makes perfect sense, I can easily explain everything about the ending. (With the exclusion of why Storm is randomly there, that one I’ll admit is odd, but doable to explain).
2. It is not unexpected at all. The entire premise of the show is The Watcher, if he will intervene and what will happen if he does. Him facing the consequences of his actions for doing that is like being surprised that a serial killer in a tv show gets found out about. It’s very obvious and clear from the beginning.
Bad writing is subjective, personally I loved it, but I totally respect anyone who doesn’t. If you think it’s bad, fair I encourage you to say it’s bad, scream it at the top of your lungs. But don’t say it with falsehoods. I hate Love and Thunder, I don’t hate it because Batman isn’t there. If I said i hated the movie because of that it would be ridiculous. If you hate What If, cool don’t say you hate it because Captain Carter is the main character, because that’s ridiculous.
The finale is objectively not about Peggy Carter and wildly explores the infinite aspect of the series, as the above picture proves. Peggy is there, but she’s not the main focus in the slightest. This is like suggesting Infinity War isn’t about gathering the Infinity Stones but is rather entirely about Captain America. Another ridiculous claim imo. They go through so many endless possibilities in this episode it’s actually insane that’s absolutely the focus along with the consequences of the watchers actions.
Many characters got sequel episodes, this was wanted. In fact many people loved the recently released zombies series which is an entire sequel series. I don’t think her having sequels is the problem since people liked that.
False. The Watcher appears in 100% of the episodes. It makes no sense for someone to say that it’s all about her. Imagine if I said “Daredevil is all about Brett Mahoney” or “Iron Man is entirely about Agent Coulson” or my above Eternity in Love and Thunder example. She’s a minor character at best (appearance wise), who plays an undoubtedly important role. Claiming she’s a main character in this series over The Watcher, or even at all, is utterly insane and I don’t understand how people are defending it. If you just hate the character say that, because saying she’s the main character is nuts
Thats absolutely ridiculous imo.
Nobody ever goes “Brett Mahoney is the main character of Daredevil” despite him having a pivotal role in the series’ climax’s. Because you don’t say that about side characters who aren’t there that much. The main character is obviously the person who appears and has the main arc across the entire series. Like yknow The Watcher.
Also do you carry this opinion for the mcu phases 1-3 who arguably does this with Captain America who she’s literally based on? Why do they keep on going back to the most boring character?
That’s a vast overestimate, I’d say there’s a pool of maaaybe 200 characters the mcu can really pull from for a series like this.
What is the problem with having a throughline mirroring a main character the MCU did the exact same thing with, especially when you already featured most everyone in the MCU? Many popular ones several times?
Also, they could’ve done so much more with the concept than just “cowboy Shang Chi.”
It’s just a waste of time honestly
What really surprises me is there was never a few episodes around IW/EG where we see the people who got snapped actually survive and the original ones who survived, would get snapped.
But that kind of continuation also brings it's own limitations, as they need to introduce all the characters they need on the last episodes. They can't focus as much on what the fans might have considered as "What if?" scenarios.
And I really don't think that they should have continued Peggy's multiverse story after season 1.
Edit: it’s a shame so many of you hate women so much you’re against seeing a feminine body
Congrats for contributing to the patriarchal standard that women have to look a certain way to be considered feminine. You're part of the problem.
Edit: 2 things. 1. I know this is from the what if…? finale. My statement is simply that Marvel Studios is obsessed with Peggy. 2. Yes Hayley is beautiful but that doesn’t excuse her being the main character in the What if…? Series.
Shame
Also that costume is ridiculous. Like this is animation just stick with the cheesecake
as an animated film though I could see it totally working without as much change needed.
but it's definitely near the top of my list with secret wars, and king in black. truly a waste.
Exactly. People get so tired of how many storylines she got like some arcs in the What If cartoon. Let's explore heroes we have not seen much of like day Iron Man, or Thor. I mean they could use a couple more TV shows or movies right?
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What the ...
Marvel: We have Elektra at home.
But, this is overkill. I don't care the context, I'm glad this never came to fruition.
WTF DID SHE EVEN DO TO RECEIVE THIS MUCH GLAZING BY THE WRITERS?
a whole ass lead in S2, pops out of nowhere to lead in S3 midway through
just frustrating, plus they MASSACRED my GOAT, Supreme Strange.
Grass wont hurt you.
also god What If would be a better show if Disney buys Warner Bros right now. IMAGINE the DC merging into MCU plot that show could have in a Season 4! it'd be awfully written yes but MAN would it be fun
They have SO much they could do! They don't need to put Peggy into everything!
The show ended up being “what if Shang-Chi and Kate Bishop were cowboys” and “what if Peggy Carter stayed in on Sunday and got caught up on Emily in Paris”
Completely against the spirit of the original comics. The show should have been an opportunity to provide crazy alternate endings for the movies and nothing more. Nobody was asking for an overarching What If story. When the series was announced people assumed it would be like the comics and we barely got that.
IMO biggest missed opportunity for Marvel hands down
There was never going to be an [Elektra-Peggy](https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Peggy_Carter/Elektra_Peggy_Carter) episode, just as there was never going to be an [Apocalypse-Kahhori](https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Apocalypse) episode or a [Black Panther-Storm](https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Ororo_Munroe/Black_Panther_Ororo_Munroe) episode or a [Nova-Byrdie](https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Byrdie_the_Duck/Nova_Byrdie_the_Duck) episode.
Otto Octavious Peggy Carter
Negasonic Teenage Warhead Peggy Carter
Pretty sure the What If team's heads would explode if they thought about that too much.
On the other hand the CW turned Harrison Wells into a universal constant. Making Peggy be the Gwen Stacy of the MCU is kind of fun.