FF First Steps disappointment?

I want to begin this with saying I loved the movie and thought it was fun.

However while watching the movie especially the first half I felt like I was watching clips and not a cohesive story. I see these characters and know who they are but I don't feel the connection.

Has anyone else felt like this?

I don't want to sound like I'm hating on the movie.

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Gilded-Mongoose2025-11-04 03:11

Weirdly enough that was all I ever got from the extensive trailers and clips that were floating around - I never got any sense of progression or placing the moments in any particular character arc.

I was somewhat impressed with them being able to keep the storyline under wraps - but have also hoped that this wasn't the energy throughout the whole movie.

They're taking so long to release it that I still haven't seen it, so not sure if it's still the case.

drntl2025-11-04 03:19

I thought the movie felt rushed. 1 hour 55 seems quick for a movie that's trying to establish this family of four (five) important characters. The flashbacks and news stories showing their backstory were kinda just like "here's the fantastic four. They're heroes. Carrying on now."

d0om_gaZe2025-11-04 03:20

completely agree with this

FX1142025-11-04 03:20

It feels like it should have been a second or third entry in their series, where the characters have been set up already. The whole thing feels like it's rushing to get pieces where they need to be for Doomsday.

Sir__Will2025-11-04 15:10

they didn't want to tell the same story for the third time in 20 years

annanz012025-11-04 15:28

But the fantastic four are not the team we know since they don't come from our universe, so really we did need to see their origin.

FX1142025-11-04 16:02

We didn't have to see their origin to establish them as characters.

Sir__Will2025-11-04 16:27

They have plenty of character in the movie

Head_Acanthisitta2562025-11-04 03:19

I definitely felt that way as well

Just a montage-a-thon until they went to space

Was an ok movie. Should’ve been much better

Cultural_Comfort58942025-11-04 03:23

I’ve only watched it once and that was close to the release

I know for myself I need to watch a movie more than once to judge it properly

I have no qualms with the MCU and how it’s gone BUT this film couldn’t be the best FF they could deliver it also had to set up a lot of things and fit the MCU upcoming stories.

I’m alright with that.

I’m looking forward to the streaming arrival to really take it all in.

The world it was set in was amazing and I never like HERBIE but he was cool in the movie.

pbj_everyday2025-11-04 03:38

Yeah, way too much reliance on montages and newsreels. The middle act in space is the best part because it's just them, no voiceovers or random cuts to Ben wandering the streets.

Street_Mall95362025-11-04 03:45

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JyconX2025-11-04 11:18

Of course they were. Because of the origin story is the Fantastic Four is already so well known, along with that of Spider-Man, and Batman and Superman from DC Comics.

SeekerVash2025-11-04 13:47

Why would they do that?

Fantastic 4 hasn't been popular in a couple decades. I doubt much of Gen Z and Alpha ever even heard of them before 2025, they've been so unpopular for so long.

Sir__Will2025-11-04 15:08

they didn't want to tell the same story for the third time in 20 years.

Difficult_Maybe_182025-11-05 06:38

Because although they’re not as popular as they once were, they still have had 2 origin stories play out on screen. I think just like MCU Spider-Man, their origin is playing out over multiple movies. Also, quite a bit of Gen Z & Alpha know of them because of Marvel Rivals

SeekerVash2025-11-05 14:23

It peaked at 40 million players globally, that's not a significant number in contrast to the total population.

RedZephon2025-11-04 03:48

Movie was good but needed another 30 minutes in runtime, especially towards the beginning. That would have helped the story I think.

Sir__Will2025-11-04 15:09

it seems like some scenes were cut from the beginning specifically to get to the main plot faster

BagofBabbish2025-11-04 04:14

It just wasn’t well written or executed.

Sue Storm came off as irrational and unreasonable refusing to even consider that all of humanity might be worth the cost of her baby. Logically, yes, the only reasonable answer is to give up the child. This should’ve been the core conflict of the film that tested the family. Johnny could even be the one pushing for them to give Galactus the kid, adding weight to his attempted sacrifice at the end of the film.

Also, hindsight being 20-20, it was a huge mistake to set the long awaited introduction of the F4 into the MCU in a parallel universe isolated from the main 616 timeline. Galactus’ thread would’ve carried more weight, and having this a standalone alternate timeline means we could’ve gotten this movie without the MCU, ie just like we had a Fox.

annanz012025-11-04 15:31

Agreed. It should have never been set it in an alternate universe if they wanted the audience to become enthralled with the characters. The majority of the audience want characters that live and exist in the main universe of the mcu, there is a reason most multiverse projects haven;t gone over well.

BagofBabbish2025-11-04 23:30

That’s not it. The best performing films of post endgame were multiverse.

The problem is continuity. Used to be you go to the see an MCU movie and the characters pop back up within a year or two and the end credits scene leads to the next project. Shang Chi has been gone for four years. Eternals too. No sign of shuri panther. Tom Holland took a five year hiatus.

That’s not in significant. I was 14 when I saw Iron Man and I was 18 when he joined the avengers. By that point I’d see him three times, Nick Fury four times, and all the others at least twice. When we met Doctor Strange, Spider-Man and Black Panther in 2016, we saw each of them approximately once a year through 2019.

The reality is a 14 year old kid that saw Sam Wilson get the shield in endgame didn’t get to see him suit up in Captain America movie until they were 20. A freshman in high school that saw Tom Holland become the definitive spider-man in 2021 will be a sophomore in college by the time he returns.

Marvel can’t blame all of their problems on the Multiverse and COVID

annanz012025-11-05 02:03

I agree that the lack of follow up on characters also played a part but I think both that and the unpopularity of the multiverse both are causing the issues

Wooden-Radish-90082025-11-04 05:37

I think TV and streaming series have really screwed up how people view traditional movies. Everyone wants there to be eight to ten hours worth of development for every single character in a two hour film. That's just not the structure. Everyone keeps saying things like, it needed to be longer.

It didn't.

The movie is about two people, Reed and Sue, having a baby and how their lives forever change because of it.

Anyone who doesnt think Sue and Reed have not only full character arcs, but a full story arc in of themselves isnt watching it for what it is.

Ben and Johnny are supporting characters and even they have pretty full arcs.

It just really isnt fair to reduce the movie to the two montages it had

Temporary_Draft_66122025-11-04 07:29

Neither of them had arcs, they followed the Captain America model of static character arc, but just without any of the writing sauce that made Cap endearing

Even Superman had an arc and he fits the static character archetype much better than the FF did

Wooden-Radish-90082025-11-04 15:26

But...they both did? What were you watching?

Also, even if I agreed, there's a difference between two supporting characters not having an arc and the min character of the movie. I think that's why First Avenger works less and less for me over time

labbla2025-11-04 15:50

Yes, it's pretty mid. I wish the whole movie had been them fighting Red Ghost and Mole Man and what not instead of doing Galactus & Silver Surfer again. The movie really just doesn't have much energy or personality and is a lot less fun than the 2000s F4. It really could have used some Doom in a scene or two to help set him up for Doomsday as well. Big missed opportunity.

sunny_xo2025-11-05 13:40

Yeah I feel like it has to of changed dramatically after Kang actor got fired. This is why it feels like that

Always wonder how different it would be if he never got fired