The original Pans for Thunderbolts. Based on the information presented in the video, do you like the version we saw better or would you have preferred the original?
It would be better if Taskmaster didn't die and if Bill Foster was there for Ava. It's felt more a black widow sequel than a team up movie even tho the movie was alright
ckal092025-11-02 00:35
Glad Taskmaster died the way she did. There were a couple scenes after where the subject was TM and her death and it enhanced the characters.
Besides There was so much hate for TM when BW came out that I don’t believe anyone is genuine when they post how upset they are about TM dying. Bring on Tony Masters.
MillAUM25792025-11-02 01:01
I would’ve enjoyed seeing Taskmaster live throughout the film, exploring her trauma and history now that she's making her own choices. Plus, Marvel could’ve leaned into what fans saw as a mistake with the comic character and made audiences genuinely care about Antonia with her story.
oorza2025-11-02 01:07
I like your optimism, but I don't believe any amount of writing would have changed the minds of the worst third of the fanbase. Even the female characters that aren't gender bent get held to a much higher standard and receive much more hate. Nothing points to the rampant misogyny and total lack of self-awareness of the fanbase quite like the how angry people were at the girl team up scene in Endgame for being gratuitous female fan service in a movie full of male fan service. The critical thinking lens only gets applied to women's moments and female heroes.
Taskmaster could have been literally the most well written, deep and thoroughly insightful character in modern cinema and the neckbeard division of Marvel fandom would still hate it because "woke." We have a deep, deep intellectual and spiritual rot in this country because women have developed agency and about half of men can't handle it. And the common purveyors of spirituality (Christian churches) just continue to feed it.
KasaiWolf0782025-11-02 02:06
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Level-Ladder-43462025-11-02 02:48
Some men hate her because she’s a girl, I personally am indifferent due to the fact that she’s just kinda there and then she dies. And her being introduced in Black Widow, which wasn’t very good of a movie, doesn’t help either.
VicRamD2025-11-02 11:19
Are you saying people would want an Okoye series?
Half of the characters you mention are support by design and not main characters of the universe
KasaiWolf0782025-11-02 11:25
Does a character have to be a main character to be interesting and well designed? No. Because it doesn't need to be. As for an Okoye series? Probably not because they haven't been doing well recently with the most recent series.
Wanda went from being a side character to being a main in WandaVision. And became such a well beloved character because of her grief and trauma. Was she a hero in that story? Hell no she did plenty wrong but you know why we cared? Cause we understand her grief of lose and while it wasn't healthy how she dealt with it, it was understandable on a basic human level. That's the type of emotional depth most characters in the MCU don't have. And it doesn't get wasted on throwaway characters such as Taskmaster or lesser ones like Iron Heart or just ones that had bad writing like she Hulk
NicoleIlieva2025-11-02 09:03
Without actually seeing the original, I love the movie we got and therefore I'm not disappointed by the changes.
N8CCRG2025-11-02 14:17
"Original" is not the correct term. Every project goes through lots of ideas and changes before eventually landing on the finalized form. It doesn't make sense to call any of them the "original," it's just clickbait and misinformation.
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Besides There was so much hate for TM when BW came out that I don’t believe anyone is genuine when they post how upset they are about TM dying. Bring on Tony Masters.
Taskmaster could have been literally the most well written, deep and thoroughly insightful character in modern cinema and the neckbeard division of Marvel fandom would still hate it because "woke." We have a deep, deep intellectual and spiritual rot in this country because women have developed agency and about half of men can't handle it. And the common purveyors of spirituality (Christian churches) just continue to feed it.
Half of the characters you mention are support by design and not main characters of the universe
Wanda went from being a side character to being a main in WandaVision. And became such a well beloved character because of her grief and trauma. Was she a hero in that story? Hell no she did plenty wrong but you know why we cared? Cause we understand her grief of lose and while it wasn't healthy how she dealt with it, it was understandable on a basic human level. That's the type of emotional depth most characters in the MCU don't have. And it doesn't get wasted on throwaway characters such as Taskmaster or lesser ones like Iron Heart or just ones that had bad writing like she Hulk