A lot of people where like hoping he becomes the new Iron Man which is funny because I think that It was ultimately what lead to him being in the funeral to nod the fans for remembering him... and then nobody knew who was this guy
scarfacesaints2025-11-01 11:06
Wow how has someone just noticed this! Amazing that so many years later people are still finding new little Easter eggs
ABBJ552025-11-01 11:10
Yes
Kaos39742025-11-01 11:13
Yes.
agravain2025-11-01 11:13
you mean the thing everyone noticed when the movie came out?
Admirable_Flow31042025-11-01 11:22
Put some respect on Harley Keener's name—y'all be lying saying he's the worst part of that film (cough, cough, "I am the Mandarin!") When it comes to kid side characters in movies, he's nowhere near as annoying as most; in fact, he's less annoying than Peter in most MCU films! Seriously, he had so much potential, especially considering Tony Stark was still a significant presence in his life, so much so that Harley was invited to Tony's funeral. Not that it means much to the MCU canon but he was even a part of the W.E.B. Spider-Man comic/Disney ride, so clearly even Marvel doesn't know how important he is... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
JyconX2025-11-01 11:39
Yes
Majestic_____kdj2025-11-01 12:18
If Marvel pulled this guy instead of an iron heart series , things could have been more interesting
N8CCRG2025-11-01 13:06
Yeah! When it first came out, the general reaction was the same as yours: "Who the hell was that guy and why was he at Tony's funeral?"
Eventually folks figured out that he was the same kid, but it's widely accepted that it's a *really* forced Easter Egg to put him in there. Still fun, but doesn't really make sense and is just a cute call back.
LordDusty2025-11-01 19:50
I don't think it was forced or didnt make any sense. It feels rather in character for Tony to have kept contact with him since IM3.
Harley could be seen as the Peter Parker predecessor, someone that Tony helps and takes under his wing. At the end of IM3 Tony provides him with a garage full of tech and I can see him keeping an eye on him over the next few years, even if he did so in his aloof, nonchalant manner.
What doesn't make sense is bringing him back just for a one off cameo when he could very easily have been set up for a bigger part. If anyone would try to replicate Iron Man tech with some sort of approval from Stark Industries, it could very well be the kid that helped Tony out, saw his tech first hand, and was given a big starting hand with his own starter tech lab.
spidervenom6192025-11-02 00:50
For the last time, Harely Keener is no different then either Chess Roberts or Christine Everhart (Remember them, Yeah no you didn't...) The only reason why people cared about him was to dunked on Riri Williams, that's it.
This Brat of a child did nothing to prove that he was Worthy to be the next Iron Man.
LordDusty2025-11-02 03:25
You seriously comparing a supporting character who actually has a role in the main plot to a cameo character and a character that barely appears, if not at all besides a deleted scene? And yes I did know who Christine was. If you want to make a point at least pick your comparisons more carefully.
The discussion around 'the next Iron Man isnt a difficult one. It shouldn't really be anyone. Just repeating characters and passing on every bit of tech and aesthetic is boring as hell, especially if you do it for every character (Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Hulk, Widow, Hawkeye, AntMan, Falcon, Wanda, Black Panther, etc, etc, etc...its such a dull way to introduce new characters), but that being said Rhodey is already established and if anyone would eventually continue the Iron Man stuff, Morgan is the logical option.
Now if you want to introduce a character that develops Iron Man tech by themselves Harley would be the next sensible choice, he's already on good terms with Tony (because one of his big things in the films is not wanting his tech in the hands of people he doesnt know of trust, so as soon as he or Stark Industries gets a whiff of someone copying his stuff they would shut it down immediately), he's shown to be tech capable, he was gifted tech resources and he's had some small close up tie with the Iron Man tech. I mean if anyone could be seen to be set up for the role its Harley.
I mean yeah one of the reasons why people thought about him was because Riri was such an unlikeable character in both the comics and the MCU and people thought that Harley would've been a better choice for the role. I don't think people really wanted an Iron Man successor at all (aside from Rhodey or perhaps Morgan) but Harley was seen as a far better and more likeable choice than Riri.
spidervenom6192025-11-02 11:00
My man MCU Riri wasn't even given a chance. People was hating on her when she was announced. Also, Riri is only written as unlikeable when BENDIS is writing her. When anyone else has the pen, she's a different character.
The Brat did nothing but let Jarvis do all the hard work. Riri at least build her own suits and A.I. from scraps
LordDusty2025-11-02 14:53
Well this is starting to sound less like your issue is with Harley and more like your issue is that people had an issue with Riri.
Riri is not a popular character. She is widely disliked in the comics and very few people cared enough about her to want to see her in the MCU. People just werent that keen to see a random character take over the Iron Man mantle and Riri certainly wasnt handled in a way that got people on her side (compare her to the positive reception of Kate Bishop.
Riri's debut in the MCU didnt go down well either. She is often considered the worst part of BP2 and really wasnt a popular choice to get her own spin off series, a show that also turned out to be very polarising and her character rarely considered to be one of the high points.
All in all its hard to see why she has been pushed so hard in the MCU considering her low popularity throughout her characters history. Harley might not have been the most super popular of characters but even neutral popularity is better than negative.
Calling him 'The Brat' is not exactly making you argument any stronger. There are lots of bratty kids in film/tv but Harley isnt one of them. He shares banter with Tony but never in a pushy, entitled, arrogant way. He's inquisitive and excitable but bratty he aint. Funnily enough bratty is a far better descriptive of Riri than Harley.
Harley is shown to have potential when it comes to engineering. He's made his own effective potato gun and he has a decent grasp on technology and jargon. He's not shown to be super smart but the potential is there for him to improve especially with the experience and start up from his time with Tony. With this motivation he could easily become pretty tech savvy within a few years. There is nothing in IM3 to suggest he couldn't become this
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A lot of people where like hoping he becomes the new Iron Man which is funny because I think that It was ultimately what lead to him being in the funeral to nod the fans for remembering him... and then nobody knew who was this guy
Eventually folks figured out that he was the same kid, but it's widely accepted that it's a *really* forced Easter Egg to put him in there. Still fun, but doesn't really make sense and is just a cute call back.
Harley could be seen as the Peter Parker predecessor, someone that Tony helps and takes under his wing. At the end of IM3 Tony provides him with a garage full of tech and I can see him keeping an eye on him over the next few years, even if he did so in his aloof, nonchalant manner.
What doesn't make sense is bringing him back just for a one off cameo when he could very easily have been set up for a bigger part. If anyone would try to replicate Iron Man tech with some sort of approval from Stark Industries, it could very well be the kid that helped Tony out, saw his tech first hand, and was given a big starting hand with his own starter tech lab.
This Brat of a child did nothing to prove that he was Worthy to be the next Iron Man.
The discussion around 'the next Iron Man isnt a difficult one. It shouldn't really be anyone. Just repeating characters and passing on every bit of tech and aesthetic is boring as hell, especially if you do it for every character (Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Hulk, Widow, Hawkeye, AntMan, Falcon, Wanda, Black Panther, etc, etc, etc...its such a dull way to introduce new characters), but that being said Rhodey is already established and if anyone would eventually continue the Iron Man stuff, Morgan is the logical option.
Now if you want to introduce a character that develops Iron Man tech by themselves Harley would be the next sensible choice, he's already on good terms with Tony (because one of his big things in the films is not wanting his tech in the hands of people he doesnt know of trust, so as soon as he or Stark Industries gets a whiff of someone copying his stuff they would shut it down immediately), he's shown to be tech capable, he was gifted tech resources and he's had some small close up tie with the Iron Man tech. I mean if anyone could be seen to be set up for the role its Harley.
I mean yeah one of the reasons why people thought about him was because Riri was such an unlikeable character in both the comics and the MCU and people thought that Harley would've been a better choice for the role. I don't think people really wanted an Iron Man successor at all (aside from Rhodey or perhaps Morgan) but Harley was seen as a far better and more likeable choice than Riri.
The Brat did nothing but let Jarvis do all the hard work. Riri at least build her own suits and A.I. from scraps
Riri is not a popular character. She is widely disliked in the comics and very few people cared enough about her to want to see her in the MCU. People just werent that keen to see a random character take over the Iron Man mantle and Riri certainly wasnt handled in a way that got people on her side (compare her to the positive reception of Kate Bishop.
Riri's debut in the MCU didnt go down well either. She is often considered the worst part of BP2 and really wasnt a popular choice to get her own spin off series, a show that also turned out to be very polarising and her character rarely considered to be one of the high points.
All in all its hard to see why she has been pushed so hard in the MCU considering her low popularity throughout her characters history. Harley might not have been the most super popular of characters but even neutral popularity is better than negative.
Calling him 'The Brat' is not exactly making you argument any stronger. There are lots of bratty kids in film/tv but Harley isnt one of them. He shares banter with Tony but never in a pushy, entitled, arrogant way. He's inquisitive and excitable but bratty he aint. Funnily enough bratty is a far better descriptive of Riri than Harley.
Harley is shown to have potential when it comes to engineering. He's made his own effective potato gun and he has a decent grasp on technology and jargon. He's not shown to be super smart but the potential is there for him to improve especially with the experience and start up from his time with Tony. With this motivation he could easily become pretty tech savvy within a few years. There is nothing in IM3 to suggest he couldn't become this