Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. paved the road for every MCU show that followed.
Without Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., we would've never seen the other ABC shows, the Netflix shows, the Hulu/Freeform shows (sorry Helstrom fans), and quite possibly the Disney+ shows. AoS paved the road, don't forget that.
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"Am I a joke to you?"
Spider-Man was just silly. Now if we're talking about Spider-Man and his amazing friends cartoon, I LOVED that show! 😄
He must of had a bad dream about that show or some shit lol
And no, it isn't.
It's not canon.
They pretended it was, but it wasn't.
Then they stopped pretending.
Because it isn't canon.
It was good don’t get me wrong.
But the idea that they would make a show about SHIELD one year, then almost immediately greenlight a movie about how SHIELD is corrupt and needs to be dismantled, made it clear that the show was doing no help in world building for the wider scale, but rather just cobbling together its own concocted “major events” that would never be acknowledged by the movies.
Disney saw the success of the Netflix shows, which it never achieved with the ABC shows, and decided that's how it was going to make everything else we eventually received.
Everything else had an influence, but Agents of SHIELD was no more important than the '80s Hulk show. There's a reason we have Born Again and not a sequel to one of the non-MCU shows like Cloak & Dagger or Agents of SHIELD.
AoS is a show you put on in the background but eventually get tired of after a few seasons but the Netflix shows are ones you're captivated by because the plot is more than soap opera drama.
Flash did it with Catelyn went from being Killer Frost because of exposure to the meta shit to "Actually, her mom injected her, she's been a meta all along!". It just shows they've run out of ideas.
At one point, Felicity's mom had her own subplot about her love life.
That plot line was not handled terribly well, but that was also deep into what? Season 3 or 4? At that point they were being pushed to lay the groundwork for a crazy ambitious spinoff (Inhumans) which was aiming to push into Feige's territory by being both a TV and in-theater release.
It was a bit of a mess, but if you'd stayed with it, you would have gotten to some of the best moments of the series. Robbie Reyes / Ghost Rider was actually a solid story with a really great actor for the role. And, of course, the season 5 finale, The Real Deal, was one of the best episodes of MCU TV, without any equivocation.
CHEAP SETS?!?
I haven't watched any soap operas sinds the early 90s. Do they have alternate dimensions, alternate timelines, advanced cloning, oppressive government's, alien resurrections and Gods in them these days? I should start watching again, I might be missing out!
I don't think we wouldn't have had the other shows if SHIELD had not happened, but I do think that they would have had to reinvent the wheel a bit more than they did. For example, Agents of SHIELD was a primary reason that backers of Daredevil accepted viewers would accept arc-based MCU shows rather than looking for purely episodic content (which was still a pretty big debate in Hollywood at the time).
Lack of connection between TV and movies were among the biggest complaints and now everybody is complaining about the connections.
And lack of connection turned out to be curse turned boon for shows like AOS, Daredevil etc cuz it allowed them to flourish on their own than be restricted like the majority of D+ shows were. I can imagine the creatives of these shows feeling a bit relieved seeing how D+ shows turned out to be.
(Other complaints like "directors aren't given full creative freedom", "Every movie is a set up for the next one" were all solved in post EG MCU and it all backfired amd now the same lot is likely reminiscing about how great Infinity Saga was without realising that the very things they complained about actually contributed to making MCU what it used to be.)
There was a lot of people complaining about how every movie is a set up for the next, specifically post Phase 2.
And now MCU has stopped following that post EG, people have gotten less interested in the MCU, proving that the connections were possibly like the biggest motivation for most people to watch it.
So almost all the nitpicks that people had about the entire MCU during Infinity Saga, were retroactively proven to be beneficial to the universe. Its what made mcu The MCU.
>There are 2 groups of fans
Also I don't think it's two set of fans. Its the same group
People want less tie in with shows and more interconnection between movies. Like it was pre EG.
People want less tie in with shows and more interconnection between movies. Like it was pre EG.
I thougth the same but is a difference between casual fans that goes to movies and more dedicated fans that watch all projects and want to think they will do something with the characters
Every AOS glazer insists this was some sort of god send show that had so much impact when it was always mid.
Can confirm.
Am v intense about this fuckin'show hahaha
But it is true that it was a trailblazer and frankly utilized storytelling, character development, and the concept of a cinematic universe better than many Disney+ shows. It is very foolish of Marvel to continue pretending that show didn't happen.
And just in case, "the book" existed in the comics. Nice Easter egg for us that watched the show to make a "MoM" connection and blah blah, but it wasn't even the same book.
They’re a weird blend of Movie and Series writing and production.
AoS is textbook network TV which shares little to no similarities to any D+ shows.
There is little to no influence.
There’s absolutely influence.
Though to say all of those other shows wouldn't have happened without Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D is a bit of a stretch.
Pretty sure those other shows only happened because of the success of the other movies and merch sales and more.
I loved how the show tied into some of the movies but it was better that it became more of it's own beast.
Disney was always going to get into the streaming market, and they would always have looked to their biggest live action IPs (Star Wars and Marvel) for exclusive content. Whether or not AoS existed wouldn’t have changed any of this.
The Netflix shows paved any road that may be there. Not a single entity from AoS carried over into the movies that weren't already apart of them (Coleson, Maria Hill, Sitwell, Lady Sif, etc..). The same can't be said for the Netflix series with Daredevil coming back (plus being in Spider-Man) and plans for the others (except Iron Fist, Netflix did him dirty)
I enjoyed AoS for what it was. The last of a dying breed of TV shows that ran for more than 20 episodes a season, had multi part mini series at points, had decent writing and played with the tertiary tier of heroes and villains with some heavy hitters (Ghost Rider) thrown in.
I was not a fan of WandaVision, though I enjoyed some of the set-up and genuinely liked Agatha as a character and actually liked her series. I've rewatched AoS relatively recently while I was going through the entire Marvel catelog in chronological order. I'll admit, some seasons felt like a slog to get through (probably because I've seen the series once through already) and couldn't wait to get back into the movies when they came up in the timeline. After Infinity War I stopped with the TV shows. I am not a fan of the new shows starting with WandaVision. I enjoyed Loki quite a bit, but it's such a departure from the character in the movies it doesn't feel like a contiguous part of the universe. That's because all of these shows post Infinity War/Endgame are there to simply set up the coming movies, which went sideways with all the issues with the actor playing Kang.
Anyways, I liked AoS, I disagree that it paved the way for Marvel TV though.
I really enjoyed AoS, had some great arcs and I personally consider parts of It canon in my own headcanon of the MCU
But the constant need for people to talk about this over and over again is tiring. Consider It canon if you’d like, consider It not, who cares. But fans of this show constantly have posts saying people NEED to feel this way, that’s it’s the only option.
I’m not even saying it’s bad I’m just saying some of y’all praise it like it invented the idea of a tv show and was written by Jesus.