I'm currently rewatching Daredevil.

How in the hell is Deborah Ann Woll not in everything? She's a spectacular actress. I'd argue that she disappears into a role just as well as Gary Oldman.

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ogrezilla2025-10-31 20:46

I mean this as no disrespect because I do like her and am surprised she’s not in more, but that’s a hell of a take. If nothing else just because a lack of roles to show it off in comparison. But also because he’s legit one of the best.

Jimrodsdisdain2025-10-31 20:54

It’s the worst take I’ve read in a long time. As far as I can tell She’s only ever played American characters and only used a different accent in true blood. Comparing her to Gary oldman is just ridiculous.

ogrezilla2025-10-31 20:57

not disagreeing with you, just thought I'd be more civil about it lol but yeah it's pretty wild

friedaplane2025-10-31 21:49

Yep Gary's range is up there with one of the best. Deborah has shown nowhere near that in the roles she has done 🤷🏻‍♀️

TraditionalShinee22025-11-01 03:57

And I don't think her performance in Daredevil is all that special at all, like there's been several better acting performances from other Marvel actresses (Elizabeth Olsen as Wanda for example). I'm baffled at what makes it special enough to be compared to Gary Oldman. She wasn't even better than Krysten Ritter as Jessica Jones.

crimsonmail2025-10-31 21:38

Seriously this comparison is a bit disrespectful to Gary who is generational...

Abject-Conflict-75312025-10-31 20:46

That's what I'm saying! I'm rewatching it as well, almost done with Season 2 and my gosh she nails her character so much.

Single-Pianist-22112025-10-31 20:47

Have you seen True Blood? She’s pretty good there too

Caldwellwa2025-10-31 20:48

I have. She's pretty rad.

Strung_Out_Advocate2025-10-31 20:56

Kind of reinforces OP's point. That shit was a long time ago at this point. I have absolutely no idea what's prevented her from ascending to top tier levels of acting all these years.

LogicalBathroom86342025-10-31 21:47

yeah, she really nailed that character, so underrated for sure

RockHardSalami2025-11-01 02:45

She awoken my desire for read heads lmao

TestingBrokenGadgets2025-10-31 20:51

This is just a theory but I think a partial reason is that her husband has lost almost all of his sight and she enjoys just being with him and her friends having fun. She still does the occasional movie like she was in Escape Room and voice acting roles like in God of War but she's mostly just playing DnD.

When you're a good actor, you can make a great living playing DnD and voice acting. Just look at the cast of Critical Role. Doing proper hollywood acting doesn't earn you much money anymore.

ScuzzBuckster2025-10-31 20:54

She talked on a podcast once with Jon Bernthal how after Daredevil, for unknown reasons she was just not getting any offers for roles at all. Like it just completely dried up so she stuck with things she really enjoys like DnD and now she likes staying in that lane.

TestingBrokenGadgets2025-10-31 20:56

I wonder if a part of it was that her prior main role was in True Blood so she might've been typecast in nerdy things despite her ability to act.

MusicLikeOxygen2025-10-31 21:56

I'd say that's probably part of it and unfortunately her age is probably part of it too. In Hollywood, there aren't many roles for women over the age of 35. 35 to 45ish is like a dead zone for actresses. They're seen by the executives as too old to be love interests but not old enough to be grandmas or aunts. It's better than in was in the old days, but Hollywood is still a pretty terrible place for women.

TraditionalShinee22025-11-01 03:54

Krysten Ritter's been booking roles after Jessica Jones and she's older, so...

Smodphan2025-11-01 08:46

Already a headline with a dynasty name in Ritters case, but I agree as well. Sometimes its just too late or bad timing and things dont take off.

TraditionalShinee22025-11-01 09:52

Or some actresses are just better than others 🤷🏻‍♀️ There's nothing stand out about Woll as an actress in my opinion, she's very run-of-the-mill.

Ritter for example is very versatile and can do comedy, drama, villain roles, etc. which allows her to get cast in several things. Woll hasn't shown range like that. So I don't get why people are baffled she isn't booking roles, I don't think it's for the lack of trying, it's very possible that there are plenty better actresses that comes in when she auditions. Like, I don't think she's this generational talent this post is making her out to be.

Wrong-Vermicelli47232025-11-01 01:29

I think in reality it’s just a competitive market and she wasn’t pushed like some others were. Sam Witwer has the same issue though obvious has done more stuff. Don’t even think it’s typecasting really. Also the older a actress gets the less opportunities they get in acting , a sad reality.

TraditionalShinee22025-11-01 03:53

Or she's just not that much of a standout in terms of acting. She's not even the best actress in the Marvel Netflix universe, not with Krysten Ritter, Rosario Dawson, Jessica Henwick, Carrie Ann Moss, etc. around. Her performance in Daredevil is not that special for people to be comparing her to Gary Oldman of all actors.

Wrong-Vermicelli47232025-11-01 04:47

Oh I agree but my point is you can be the best actor in the world and not get much work. I honestly think Deborah pretty average. She definitely no Gary Oldman. You lost me at Jessica Henwick though. More charismatic sure but I wouldn’t call Jessica a better actor , love her but she pretty average as well.

Antrikshy2025-11-01 05:00

Here's the D&D clip: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpVJZrabMQE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpVJZrabMQE)

Can't remember if that exact topic is in this.

guardian16912025-10-31 20:57

My son is getting into D&D and found a show similar to Critical Role, but I think each episode is a single session. She walks out and I was kind of surprised to see her. She was asked to also voice a player's sentient sword that only he could hear and she chose a valley girl accent and it was hilarious.

Mac44912025-11-01 04:08

Critical Role mentioned in the Marvelstudios sub.

Her appearance on CR made that episode a top 5 episode of all time for me. She was great and had great chemistry with the cast. Would love to see her again.

dpittnet2025-10-31 20:56

lol

yslquan2025-10-31 20:57

She’s the most annoying character to me, she will endanger anybody to get a story and she doesn’t care about the consequences plus she’s always crying and whining

FPG_Matthew2025-10-31 21:31

s3e10 explains all of Karen’s actions

She doesn’t believe she is a good person worthy of love. She wants more than anything to be seen as a good person. After her family was torn apart, she upends her life and moves to the big city in some feeble attempt to start her life over. But, she finds herself in trouble AGAIN with the Union Allied debacle. She’s been framed for murder! She’s vulnerable, she’s broken, she at her lowest which she didn’t even think was possible after her brother’s death. It must be her right? She’s the problem surely.

So, she consistently makes unwise/irrational/wrong choices, all in some Hail Mary attempt to be seen as good, as an innocent.

Enter Matt Murdock. For the first time in a long LONG time, she feels seen as the idealized version of herself. Someone good, someone innocent, someone worthy of love. But she wants to hold onto that feeling with all her might, so again those illogical decisions creep in

Add all that up, and we have one of the best female… nah… one of the best CHARACTERS in all of the MCU, Karen Page

Hope that shines a bit of light. Or maybe you knew all that already and still think of her that way, which for some odd reason, people do

Notoriously_So2025-10-31 21:06

So glad they brought her back for Daredevil: Born Again. 👏

Evening-Carrot62622025-10-31 21:25

She needs to stop tucking her hair behind her ears. For some reason, she looks really weird when she does that. 🤣🤣

doubleohsergles2025-10-31 21:29

After True Blood I expected her and Evan Rachel Wood to go big. Daredevil came and went and she didn't ascend for some reason. The same goes for Charlie Cox. Dude's a great actor, but other than Stardust and Daredevil I can't remember him being in anything else 😕

TraditionalShinee22025-10-31 22:09

>The same goes for Charlie Cox.

Charlie's been in several stuff after Daredevil. Kin on AMC (great show) Treason on Netflix, Adults on FX, and right after Daredevil got cancelled he had a Broadway run with Tom Hiddleston, and even dabbled in video game voice acting this year with Expedition 33. Plus he has several films coming up.

Darcula042025-11-01 02:19

Damn charlie cox was in expedition 33? Just for that I think I should finally make some space for it on my pc

Uncanny_Doom2025-10-31 21:30

I don't know about a Gary Oldman comparison but she's great. There was a story about her not getting work for a while after Daredevil ended and it's unclear why.

Goatfellon2025-10-31 21:31

Shes also cute as a button.

She does a lot of dnd content too. Highly suggest people check it out if they like her and dorky shit! (Complimentary)

crimsonmail2025-10-31 21:37

As good as Gary Oldman? Let's calm down a bit here.

Mtthom062025-10-31 21:38

You don't quite realize how good of an actress she is until she leaves after the first couple of epsiodes in the last season. The show had a void without her. Her and Charlie have crazy chemistry

3-DMan2025-10-31 21:41

The part with Wesley was so unexpected and awesome when it happened.

friedaplane2025-10-31 21:47

Meanwhile I thought she was pretty one-note with how she delivered every line with the same teary eyed breathiness 😬

N8CCRG2025-10-31 21:47

Everyone praises Charlie Cox, but I think she and Vincent give the two best performances in the series.

friedaplane2025-10-31 21:52

Charlie's performance has way more nuance and varied delivery, so the praise is deserved 🤷🏻‍♀️ In fact he and Wilson Bethel are actually the most natural and have the best performances that doesn't rely on big crying moments or scenery chewing monologues

privatejacques2025-11-01 04:06

She didn't give a better performance than Charlie just because she cried a lot 💀 Charlie is better and gives a more nuanced performance in both shows. Vincent Born Again plays Kingpin excessively hammy. Charlie has shown more range and nuance as Matt. Good acting isn't just about who gets to monologue a lot or cry a lot.

Ruben_AAG2025-10-31 22:05

She was in The Mentalist to get killed off after one scene I was so annoyed (still a fantastic show though and I screamed when I recognised her voice)

nomedigasmentiritas2025-11-01 00:30

Do you remember what episode it was?

Ruben_AAG2025-11-01 04:12

Season 1 Episode 10

nomedigasmentiritas2025-11-01 04:45

Oh, then it's the one I remember. She was a secretary and was in love with Jane's psychiatrist's ex-husband, iirc. The guy was into blond women... thank you!

kwelch662025-10-31 23:28

I love me some Deborah Ann Woll, but I hate her in the role of Karen personally. Her IMDB page shows a bit of a comeback on the horizon.

NoLUTsGuy2025-11-01 02:28

She is terrific. I hope she has more to do in the next season.

EducatedDissenter2025-11-01 02:41

Deborah’s performance was one of the standouts in Daredevil. 👌

Caldwellwa2025-11-01 03:03

Damn right.

EzSp2025-11-01 03:32

She's great, but I do feel she overacts quite often. To the point that I found Karen pretty annoying sometimes.

privatejacques2025-11-01 04:10

She just does the same teary eyes and shaky line delivery even when the scene isn't supposed to be that emotional

TraditionalShinee22025-11-01 03:49

Comparing her to Gary Oldman is just next level glazing lmao. You're doing too much, she's not even close to him. She isn't even the best performance in Daredevil, nor the best female actress in the Marvel Netflix universe (Krysten Ritter, Rosario Dawson, Carrie Ann Moss, etc all outdo her)

Fun_Kaleidoscope80082025-11-01 08:16

This has to be a joke post. Just say you want to simp for her dude 😂

JSevatar2025-11-01 12:16

Gary Oldman? Are you nuts?

Fun_Kaleidoscope80082025-11-02 13:44

They're crazy. She's not even the best actor in Daredevil 😂 she's so overrated by the Marvel fandom because they simp for her. Comparing her to THE Gary Oldman who is one of the greatest of his generation is legitimately psychotic lmao.

benjimima2025-11-01 17:59

She’s very, very good, but comparing her to Gary Oldman? My guy - don’t you even realise that when DAW was seriously ill after contracting sepsis from an infected fang during season 3 they got Gary Oldman to play her role? There are levels to this game and Gary Oldman is the final boss.

Caldwellwa2025-11-01 18:01

I typically don't engage with naysayers on matters of opinion. I'm too old for drama. This; however, was bloody hilarious. Well played, dude.

privatejacques2025-11-01 18:29

Did she pay you to write this? Gotta be the only explanation. She doesn't even give a better performance than Charlie Cox on the show, suddenly she's Gary Oldman?

DowntownJulieBrown12025-11-01 20:41

What?

Fun_Kaleidoscope80082025-11-02 13:46

Why not just say you want to simp for her without lying about her acting ability? She's been so overrated by the male Marvel fandom because you folks are simping for her.