> "Every time I do an interview, it's mentioned," Janssen tells Entertainment Weekly. (We acknowledge that we, too, asked her about Jean Grey.) "It's interesting. I didn't realize that was such a big part. Every interview I do, that will come up, and of everything I say, that is going to be the only thing that's gonna be printed."
> When asked if Marvel ever asked her to reprise Jean after that Fox era of movies, the actress replied, "Never. Never ever."
Xianified2025-10-30 23:59
So she's coming back is what she's saying.
SteveFrench122025-10-31 00:10
She didnt realize her role as the leading woman in an extremely successful trilogy was a big role lol,
GoatResponsible89482025-10-31 02:33
If I remember correctly, she did an X-men movie interview YEARS ago that seemed very disparaging towards comic books and possibly the Fox production company.
I remember feeling pretty betrayed by her at the time. I don’t remember the full scenario, but I’ll be glad to never see her in an X-men movie again.
morphballganon2025-10-30 23:21
... and then she shows up as Xenia Onatopp
Comic_Book_Reader2025-10-30 23:23
RefinedBean2025-10-30 23:34
Gallons
Hayterfan2025-10-30 23:44
Literal oceans worth
Here2BeeFunny2025-10-31 16:40
Don’t watch her episode of tng. You’ll fall in love and never feel the same. It’s maybe the only episode to confirm Riker used the holodeck for … research.
InnocentTailor2025-10-30 23:30
GoAgainKid2025-10-30 23:56
That gif just peaked.
asteriaslexxx2025-10-31 00:58
She always did enjoy a good squeeze!
Rpanich2025-10-31 01:06
Original death by snusnu
joepanda1112025-10-31 05:22
*"She can ~~fix~~ break me!”*
TestingBrokenGadgets2025-10-30 23:26
I mean...after X3, they focused on First Class and a younger group of actors. She came back for Days of Future Past for the ending and had no reason to return for the other X-men movies. It is a little odd she's not appearing in Doomsday alongside Scott, Kurt, and the rest but I'm just assuming it's in a post-Phoenix Saga timeline and she's dead.
indianajoes2025-10-30 23:36
I thought most fans were happy with the end of Days of Future Past where everyone lives happily ever after. I wish this could be following that with Jean still alive
TestingBrokenGadgets2025-10-30 23:43
Yup. That's why I'm assuming/hoping Doomsday will be an alternate timeline. All those superheroes coming in to go against Doom; I'm expecting at least a few people die to setup Secret War. Would had to have that happy ending be reversed where they get sucked in to fight Doom and get killed.
Waeleto2025-10-30 23:48
To be fair i'm not sure that happy ending isn't already reversed because of Logan, Granted we don't know it's the same timeline or not for sure but most people consider all the fox xmen dead because of Logan movie
I still hope to see all of them back in doomsday/secret wars tho
GoAgainKid2025-10-30 23:55
I like to think of Logan as a separate timeline. Otherwise it gets a bit Newt/ Alien3 - going through a load of shit to survive, only to die off screen!
Waeleto2025-10-30 23:57
That's what i like to think as well, Maybe if we see the dofp timeline again in doomsday we'll finally get a confirmation
Earth5132025-10-31 00:06
Spoilers if you aren't up to date with the Krakoa Era >!but if they eventually want to go Krakoa era way down the line after many many years of creating mutant films, they could have the Moira storyline explain that they are all just restarted variant timelines born from Moira's multiple attempts at creating a peaceful mutant outcome!<
pocketbutter2025-10-31 12:43
Deadpool & Wolverine *seemed* to imply that Logan was the mainline X-men universe, or at least the one that Deadpool himself lived in.
Then again, if we consider Deadpool/Logan (not the two movies I would expect to be in the same universe, lol) a separate timeline from the DoFP timeline, that would explain the different interpretations of characters like Caliban, Colossus, Juggernaut, and even Deadpool himself.
Chardan00012025-10-31 01:07
The background of Logan isn't compatible with the ending of DoFP, as in Logan there had been no new mutants since before the ending of DoFP timeperiod I believe.
So in essence they're unrelated
Eastern_Hornet_64322025-10-31 12:53
The Fox timeline(s) never made sense and I don't expect Doomsday to change that. The only parts of the X-Men timeline(s) I'm assuming to be "canon" to the MCU (or rather, MCM) are Logan, the Deadpool movies and the end of The Marvels. This is because Deadpool & Wolverine is definitely canon, and Deadpool 1 and Deadpool 2 are backstory for that. The events of Logan are also explicitly referenced in DP&W. And finally, the X-Men universe at the end of The Marvels is where Monica ended up. Everything else is in limbo until Doomsday explicitly references it. Unless and until Doomsday explicitly references more of the Fox timeline(s), I'm assuming the X-Men in Doomsday (and The Marvels) come from a generic X-Men universe; one of many, and not necessarily any of the specific universes seen in the Fox movies. I'm not even assuming the Doomsday X-Men universe is in any way connected to the DP&W universe.
Chardan00012025-10-31 12:55
Correct me if I'm wrong but is the Logan part if D&W not an alt timeline? Its been minute.
And yeah, the timeline is an utter mess. I don't even know if Apocalypse/DF are compatible with the DoFP ending either.
Eastern_Hornet_64322025-10-31 13:14
Unclear, but regardless, it still renders Logan to be canonically part of the Marvel Cinematic Multiverse.
* I assume that the X-Men in Doomsday will come from the universe seen at the end of The Marvels (we'll call this Universe X-A)
* DP&W makes use of multiple universes:
* Universe X-B is the universe that DP&W starts and ends in
* Universe X-C is the universe that the events of Logan took place in. It's possible that Universe X-B = Universe X-C, but this is unconfirmed
* Universe X-D is the universe that "the worst Wolverine" comes from
* And then there are multiple universes shown during the "Power of Love" Wolverine variants montage
* It's possible that Universe X-A might be the same as one of these other universes, but for now, there's no reason to think so.
AnOnlineHandle2025-10-31 03:24
I've had a theory that Logan takes place in the old DOFP timeline, where Logan woke up and saved Charles from the robot and they were the only two survivors who then returned to the US, and lived in the semi-functional remaining areas in the south.
There's multiple references to the original timeline in the movie (and cut scenes) which don't really make sense if it's in the rebooted timeline. e.g. Charles talks about Liberty Island in a cut scene, which Logan says was a long time ago.
When Logan dies, he wakes up in the other timeline that we saw at the end of DOFP. Everything in Logan takes places between him blacking out in the river and waking up in the other timeline.
chiefbrody622025-10-31 19:06
I read an article years ago, that explained the Foxverse as 4 different timelines, and X1 and X2 were the only ones canon to all four timelines. It makes the most sense, and X1,2 and 3 would be in a timeline with Logan, while Days of Future Past would be on a seperate. It makes sense and lets me have both a happy ending and a bittersweet ending. I assume the X-Men in Doomsday are in another branched timeline that contains X1 and X2, but who knows lol.
SeanJones852025-11-02 16:20
It could also be an alternative universe never mind the timeline switch, many possibilities :)
Competitive_Image_512025-10-31 02:51
The other theory, is though the heroes could win somehow and expect a even bigger threat in secret wars subverting the audience expectations, especially with doom
ew732025-10-30 23:54
I mean, let's be honest, in any X-Men continuity, Jean is one of the few characters that has been dead, alive, and everything in between more often than not. There's a ton of reasons she could or couldn't be around for "this" film.
GreenGoblinNX2025-10-31 06:02
Jean's grave has a revolving door.
Western-Dig-68432025-10-31 00:16
Well, until Logan.
MisterBumpingston2025-10-31 00:33
Isn’t that the same timeline as Logan? No one got a happy ending… 😭
Primary_Acadia_47292025-10-31 01:44
yeah i guess they kinda had to move on eventually, but its a bummer not seeing her again
cshelley07212025-10-30 23:39
She was in The Wolverine too
BlackJimmy882025-10-30 23:42
I mean, so is Scott in that timeline. If Scott's in, and if it is the universe we're familar, it'll have to be post-Days of Future Past/pre-Logan.
I'm not convinced we're dealing with the actual FOX universe, though. The timeline of the FOX verse is a bit to messy to just implant into the MCU. I think it'll be similar to the one we know, but change things to be a bit more comic accurate.
Mummy-Dust2025-10-30 23:50
Yeah I’ve been of the assumption that the X-Men in Doomsday is just going to be another branch of the timeline with very little connection or continuity from the Fox films.
AnOnlineHandle2025-10-31 03:25
Partially why I'm not exactly excited. It feels meh with new characters to be introduced to who are maybe variants of characters we previously knew.
dudesguy2025-10-31 01:07
Doesn't the fox universe time line essentially no longer exist except for what is seen at the end of days of the future past? Scott being alive for one means many of that time line's events did not occur in the changed time line and since we haven't seen more than a few minutes of the changed time line we have no idea how messy it might be compared to the original foxverse
jerslan2025-10-31 02:35
Pretty sure Deadpool & Wolverine dealt with the current state of that timeline post-Logan...
avahz2025-10-31 00:31
I don’t even remember her in days of future past
TestingBrokenGadgets2025-10-31 00:34
She was just a brief cameo after Logan fixed the timeline and he finds himself back in the mansion. He's walking around and sees Scott and Jean walking, I think Beast and a few others are there. It's probably only 15 seconds at the very end.
avahz2025-10-31 02:30
Ah. Yea that’s super small.
morphballganon2025-10-31 08:56
Memorable though. Logan has this emotional reaction to seeing Jean, reaches out to touch her, then Cyclops butts in "hey there big guy whaddaya doin" and kills the mood
Neveronlyadream2025-10-31 00:49
Can't be post Phoenix, because she killed Scott in that timeline, so he shouldn't be there either.
Unless it's a third, unseen timeline where she died but didn't kill Scott.
TestingBrokenGadgets2025-10-31 01:01
We've seen multiple timelines.
* X-men 1-3 (possibly also Wolverine Origins)
* First Class (Different Emma Frost than Origins)
* Logan
* Deadpool 3
* Dr Strange 3 Multiverse of Madness
* The Marvels
* Days of Future Past fixed version (Different/much younger Warren/Angel in AoA than X3)
I'm sure there's more and this is assuming that every variation of Jubilee/Shadowcat/Colossus are the same versions across X-men 1-3 and not counting the Jubilee that appears in the original trilogy vs the one from Dark Phoenix.
arnathor2025-10-31 02:02
Technically Deadpool 2 as well, as the “younger” X-Men actors have the really brief cameo where they’re hiding from Wade in the mansion. Although I think 1 and 2 are a different initial universe to 3?
TestingBrokenGadgets2025-10-31 02:08
Yup! It's a whole clusterfuck of fragmented timelines. I can excuse Deadpool because he just dicks around.
That's not even counting New Mutants since Illyana is there but I don't think Peter ever mentioned having a sister in the movies and I didn't watch New Mutants to know.
Rattlingjoint2025-10-31 03:49
Xmen timelines are actually a bit more straightforward
It goes X Men First Class -> X1 -> X2 -> X3 -> The Wolverine -> DOFP Dark Future -> DOFP -> Apocalypse -> Dark Pheonix -> DP1 -> DP2 -> DOFP Good Future -> Supposedly Logan -> DP3. New Mutants is somewhere around Logan. Marvels is unknown and Dr Strange 3 is a different universe.
All of this means you have to retcon Origins completely, which even Fox was happy to do. You also have to accept that some mutants share powers or appear faster with the DoFP time meddling (Angel being the most noteable). I write supposedly Logan, because while it can fit fine in the timeline, the years dont align right.
SeekerVash2025-10-31 01:01
Xavier also died in that timeline, she kills him as well, but Xavier is in Doomsday.
Making matters worse, IIRC, Mystique is dead at the end of the second trilogy and no longer a mutant at the end of the first, so that gets really messy really fast.
Rattlingjoint2025-10-31 03:52
We dont know what Xavier will be appearing in Doomsday yet.
The timelines are a little hard to understand at first, but think of it like First Class, then the original trilogy happens with The Wolverine, DOFP Dark Future, then DOFP rewrites the originals. So Mystique dies in the re-write timeline but depowered(temporarily) in the original.
SeekerVash2025-10-31 06:32
The problem there is that for what you stated to happen, time would have to work like it does in most sci-fi.
But the MCU's time doesn't work like that. In the MCU's time, everything from the first trilogy still happens, but there's a branch where the second trilogy happens and the fisrt trilogy cannot because Mystique died.
So we actually get Schrodinger's Xavier and Mystique. Both alive and dead, and we don't know which until we open the box and see which timeline we're in.
WhereDidThatGo2025-10-31 15:36
Spoiler alert, (this was canon to X3 btw), Xavier mind jumped into a comatose braindead man when he died in X3, and also spoiler alert, for some reason this was his identical twin brother, which is why he looks the same in DoFP.
TheObstruction2025-10-31 01:00
She got three whole movies. Scott got killed off-screen and Kurt was only in one movie.
CHRISPYakaKON2025-10-31 03:03
Unless she’s misdirecting to hide a potential cameo which is definitely possible 👀
Acceptable_Ask69012025-10-31 03:43
yeah it feels like they really dropped the ball with her character, kinda disappointing tbh
Jet-Let46062025-10-31 03:53
I would pick ANYONE ELSE from the FoX-Men movies over Channing Tatum as Gambit.
Formal-Theory29492025-10-31 04:28
vh it makes sense, really hard to keep up with the timelines and whos alive lmao
KovalSNIPE172025-10-31 04:54
it also could be a situation where they want Scotts story to be about his leadership instead of primarily "oh jean i love you"
EntrepreneurPlus70912025-10-31 08:09
Scott is super dead post Phoenix, so its probably after DOFP
Shitty-Photosshop2025-10-31 16:33
Naw, this is a lowkey hint at her secret roll, Madelyn Pryor. I’ll stop here with the random predictions
Smoking-Posing2025-10-30 23:27
Cuz she's old now
No offense to her, but she was kinda old for it even back then
underwatergazebo2025-10-30 23:29
Make the x men teenagers again!!!!
BlackJimmy882025-10-30 23:45
I think that's what they'll do when they reboot the universe.
underwatergazebo2025-10-30 23:48
At least wolverines mutation will explain why it’s Hugh Jackman for the fortieth time.
vim_deezel2025-10-31 01:09
"You can't retire Hugh, you ARE wolverine for millions!"
Hugh: But I'm 93?
"Wolverine 27: Starring Hugh Jackman as Really Old Man Logan"
SeekerVash2025-10-31 01:10
Not really, I'm not buying that he's 30 years old. Hugh is way past the point he should be playing Wolverine since Wolverine doesn't age.
underwatergazebo2025-10-31 01:14
His secondary mutation could be that he looks like shit 🤣
SupervillainMustache2025-10-30 23:33
What? She was basically the same age as her co-stars in those films.
hunterzolomon19932025-10-30 23:35
I mean she's no older then the rest who are returning. I think the bigger reason they might not want her back is the sheer amount of work she's had done to her face. That said i will be annoyed if she and especially Halle don't appear.
TPJchief872025-10-30 23:39
Other than the she was kinda old then comment, unfortunately that’s my thought too. Hallie and Anna Paquin can still slide in their role. Famke looks distractingly different.
Uncle_Beanpole2025-10-30 23:27
I’ve heard enough, Famke Jannsen confirmed for Doomsday /s
EugenesMullet2025-10-30 23:32
And that’s fine with me. I’m so tired of nostalgia bait, I don’t want any of those actors back again.
hunterzolomon19932025-10-30 23:37
The whole point of Secret Wars is too bring back past characters. Would be like DC doing COIE as a big event film and then moaning that DC are bringing back past actors for it.
napstimpy2025-10-30 23:41
Bring them back hopefully to then retire them for good
AntonChigurh89332025-10-30 23:43
That's the plan after Secret War. Is to have a semi hard reboot.
hunterzolomon19932025-10-30 23:45
Yeah bring back for one last hurrah, have them interact with the MCU cast (something Jackman has wanted to do for 10+ years) and then afterwards move forward with new takes. Its Secret Wars they get a free pass for coming back.
vim_deezel2025-10-31 01:12
I don't think they are bringing them back other than HJ, maybe. If they bring anyone back it would be the newer cast. from the last set of movies.
hunterzolomon19932025-10-31 01:22
I mean the original Charles, Magneto, Mystique, Cyclops, Beast and Nightcrawler are all back. Out of the original Fox line up only Jean, Storm and Rogues haven't been confirmed.
vim_deezel2025-10-31 01:25
I was talking about movies after Doomsday
ShadesOfTheDead2025-10-31 01:22
It apparently won’t be their last hurrah. Because Kevin Feige confirmed that they are developing a sequel to Deadpool & Wolverine with Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman reprising their roles.
hunterzolomon19932025-10-31 01:23
Has he? Need a source for that because i've head nothing from Feige, Reynolds and Jackman.
BlackJimmy882025-10-30 23:51
I'm pretty sure that's the plan. Give the FOX X-Men the one final hurrah that people mistakenly say DP&W is, then reboot the Multiverse into a single universe with new, younger X-Men cast.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-10-31 01:15
It isn’t. Kevin Feige confirmed that they are developing a sequel to Deadpool & Wolverine with Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman reprising their roles.
And they aren’t rebooting the multiverse into a single universe since they want still to tell stories set in alternate universes like Marvel Zombies season 2.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-10-31 01:14
Kevin Feige confirmed that they are developing a sequel to Deadpool & Wolverine with Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman reprising their roles.
EugenesMullet2025-10-30 23:54
Well yeah, I’d hate that too. It’s lazy and boring. They can do those stories in far more interesting ways than leaning on actors from a quarter of a century ago.
hunterzolomon19932025-10-30 23:57
No Way Home, Deadpool & Wolverine and Doctor Strange 2 are the biggest earners of the "Multiverse Saga" clearly audiences think otherwise to you.
EugenesMullet2025-10-30 23:59
I don’t care lol, I’m not judging other people for liking it. I just think it’s super boring and I’m looking forward to the trend being over.
DaZeppo3132025-10-30 23:35
Stupider decisions have been made, but I find this highly unlikely. Now, maybe the X-Men universe they focus on has a posthumously named Jean Grey School for Higher Learning, but that feels more like pivot than a plan when a sizable part of this film feels like a send-off to the FoX-Men.
GoAgainKid2025-10-30 23:57
Did you just make up a plot point out of nothing, and then argue that it doesn't make sense?
ShadesOfTheDead2025-10-31 00:58
Kevin Feige confirmed that they are developing a sequel to Deadpool & Wolverine with Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman reprising their roles. So it doesn’t seem like it will be a send-off.
JudaiDarkness2025-10-30 23:44
I want to say I don't believe her, but I feel like she's telling the truth here.
Still, I always felt weird that Fox decided to make more movies, but they didn't follow up with OG X-Men after DOFP. Scott and Jean were alive, Logan prevented Sentinels from murdering them. It was a perfect opportunity to explore more comic accurate storylines, amend some mistakes previous movies did (Scott) maybe throw in Jubilee and introduce Emma Frost as well.
GoAgainKid2025-10-30 23:58
It's amazing how badly they fucked it after DofP.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-10-31 00:49
Apparently they originally planned to do that according to the co-writer of First Class.
henzINNIT2025-10-31 04:16
In an alternate universe, Apocalypse is named the sequel to Dofp but it follows the OG cast instead. That could have been a lot of fun.
Waeleto2025-10-30 23:45
If she's in it she's obviously not gonna say "Yeah guys i'm in it"
guitarerdood2025-10-30 23:52
right???
Do we actually just... believe her? lol
Waeleto2025-10-30 23:54
I don't, I think at the very least Famke Janssen and Halle berry are in the movie, Maybe not very big roles but def in it
There will be scenes taking place in the xmen universe and the mansion which will probably have a lot of unannounced xmen cast
AsteroidMike2025-10-31 00:37
After all this time after No Way Home, I raise my eyebrows every time there’s an actor who says they’re not in the movie or weren’t even contacted about it, as if actors don’t sign NDAs or aren’t known for fibbing
SeekerVash2025-10-31 01:08
No it won't.
The cast list is the cast list, there's no 50 surprise characters.
yelsamarani2025-10-31 04:57
I think the prevailing opinion should be "wait and see the actual movie"
zambezi-neutron2025-10-30 23:48
I can see why from a story pov: Jean is so overpowered
throwtheclownaway202025-10-30 23:50
Okay, so she's obviously in Doomsday/Secret Wars
safdar9992025-10-30 23:51
She’s pulling an Andrew Garfield.
rawchess2025-10-30 23:53
Because they've already secretly cast their new Jean Grey and she'll appear in the movie before Doomsday. No confusion that way.
ShadesOfTheDead2025-10-31 01:10
No they haven’t.
SeekerVash2025-10-31 01:11
I'm assuming she has her introduction in Spiderman then?
DevelopmentGreen39612025-10-30 23:58
I'd expect that likely goes for most of the cast
DevelopmentGreen39612025-10-30 23:59
EagleSaintRam2025-10-31 06:41
Adorable_Ad_34782025-10-30 23:59
Hiding Storm and Jean from the Doomsday cast announcement is outright bizarre.
Wolverine and Deadpool? I get it. They're technically separate, Deadpool was never part of the Foxverse and this Wolverine is a variant. If they appear in Doomsday, the audience will clap, as it's a genuine surprise.
But Jean and Storm? 100% everyone expects them to be in Doomsday alongside the rest of the X-Men. So, Occam's Razor suggests they're not in Doomsday, and negotiations likely failed to secure their return.
SeekerVash2025-10-31 01:04
We know Berry isn't, after the way she was treated repeatedly with X-Men she wants absolutely nothing to do with it.
Moohamin122025-10-31 02:53
They could recast the roles.
And use the timeline changes to wave off any potential backlash.
But it would be odd since the others are returning.
eBICgamer20102025-10-31 02:58
Bring back the prequel cast please thank you. Except you Hoult, go back to Belle Reve.
Jet-Let46062025-10-31 03:59
1A
BravoLeader30002025-10-31 12:49
I loved Hoult's Beast, though (especially DOFP, which was, in terms of appearance, a major improvement over First Class).
saranowitz2025-11-01 06:40
Not much point in recasting roles for a nostalgia play.
DowntownCelery5932025-10-31 04:00
Context?
SeekerVash2025-10-31 05:08
Halle Berry, at the time of X-Men, was rising meteorically in Hollywood.
She signed on for X-Men, because Storm was such a major character in the comics, but found that in the movie she had almost no lines and nothing to do and was very unhappy.
By the time the third one was on the drawing board, she was very much over it and wasn't planning to return.
The studio and director gave her a *fake* script with Storm being a central character to get her to sign, and then after she was locked in they gave her the real script. Not an early revision or an alternate take, they literally created a fake script just to convince her to sign.
If you google it, there's many articles and stories about it because it was so wrong. People literally walked away from the movie because it was so messed up.
After that experience, she's been adamant she's not touching the character again.
Responsible_Cod_39732025-10-31 08:57
Yet she returned for DoFP. So I don't get the point you are trying to make.
SkywalkerRanchSauce2025-10-31 11:05
Did you watch Days of Future Past?
KouNurasaka2025-10-31 17:30
While I definately get that she'd be upset given all that, there are two major things that I suspect might get her to come back.
1. It's Marvel baby. Not Fox. Different team and let's be honest, Barry is getting older. She could negotiate a good payday and be a BIG moment in the movie.
2. As a kid, she was still a standout. She wasn't a main character, but I definately remembered her AND her scene where she kills Toad.
Endless_Chambers2025-10-31 18:52
I could have swore Halle Berry said somewhere she would have come back for Deadpool and Wolverine but they didnt ask her.
downtime372025-10-31 13:49
> 100% everyone expects them to be in Doomsday alongside the rest of the X-Men.
I didn't so not 100%.
PsychologicalEye1902025-10-31 00:04
Ok but wasn’t she in the Wolverine?
Hellknightx2025-10-31 01:09
Just like Logan himself, I've purged that movie from memory.
brandogg3602025-10-31 01:59
The Wolverine is awesome, especially the unrated version. Are you thinking of Origins?
TypeExpert2025-10-31 00:07
the lack of women confirmed for doomsday is quite odd. i think it's like 5 out of 27.
The_True_Y2025-10-31 00:30
Guess it was likely due to scheduling since I remember that Teyonah Parris got confirmed by the trades to start filming when the reshoots start.
TypeExpert2025-10-31 02:46
I don't think she was ever confirmed. The only actors confirmed by trades and not by the chair livestream were Chris Evans and Hailey Atwell.
AnOnlineHandle2025-10-31 03:27
Given how Endgame handled the women, with things like the incredible awkward scene where all the women teleported to the same place to support Captain Marvel who didn't even need the help and which all then proved pointless anyway, or having no women present when bringing back half the universe, except one in another room betraying them, while having room for characters like Rhodey, Rocket, Hawkeye, etc, I don't think handling of female characters is these people's speciality by a long shot.
Responsible_Cod_39732025-10-31 08:59
For the second part, which other female superhero should've been there? There wasn't any other to begin with.
AnOnlineHandle2025-10-31 09:03
Because they wrote it that way.
Pepper could have been there. As could Hope or Janet if written that way. Or any of them really.
Responsible_Cod_39732025-10-31 10:13
Hope is the only one that could've been there at that point. Pepper never was the hero type and Janet had no connection to anybody there. Would feel out of place.
AnOnlineHandle2025-10-31 14:51
They could write Janet there as the person who knows about the quantum realm. They could write Pepper there as surely Tony Stark called her and said hey we're about to try to bring back half the life in the universe do you want to be here? etc.
Jet-Let46062025-10-31 04:02
Its like after Marvels flopped, they just threw their hands in the air and gave up.
GranolaCola2025-10-31 16:10
Shame. I really liked The Marvels
AsterArtworks2025-10-31 00:18
Never asked her? Hmm. If she’s not in Doomsday I full would expect her to have turned down the opportunity.
Left4DayZGone2025-10-31 00:21
SkyRadiant18792025-10-31 00:28
Have you seen what she’s done to her face with plastic surgery and fillers? She doesn’t even look like Famke anymore.
Deee722025-10-31 00:29
Maybe because she went and messed up her face with the plastic surgery. 🤷🏽♀️
KrypticJin2025-10-31 00:53
She really messed herself up
Hellknightx2025-10-31 05:22
I had to see it for myself and, yeah, she really messed up. Looks like she had an allergic reaction that never went away. It's so... puffy.
HI-McDunnough2025-10-31 16:33
I feel bad for even saying this but I've always thought maybe that really was a part of Marvel's decision. All the other actors from the Fox films that came back were older, obviously, but they all looked like normal older people. I can't think of anyone in MoM or Deadpool that has had that much much extensive work done. They all look pretty natural, so it could be distracting to viewers and all they'll want to talk about afterward if this Jean showed up.
slimstarman2025-10-31 00:47
So she’s not just in Doomsday, she’s important too. That’s my takeaway.
chosimba832025-10-31 01:23
She's my favorite Jean. None of the other actresses have had the gravitas and earnestness the Famke brought to the character. GOAT for sure.
hvc101fc2025-10-31 01:29
Ouch thats sad. Unless this is her way of misdirect which wouldnt make sense though
mercy_death2025-10-31 01:45
To star in what?
She was in The Wolverine (2013) and DOFP (2014) Logan is the only movie made after that that isnt a reboot.
KaiShion832025-10-31 01:51
That’s a shame, met her in Tokyo in 2023, very nice person
frolie02025-10-31 01:56
Probably because she's unrecognizable and it would be confusing.
darqy1012025-10-31 02:23
Girl.... We don't believe you! But sure... 😊
TheMidnightAss2025-10-31 02:34
Is it too much to ask to see scarlet witch vs OG jean grey
hellsbellltrudy2025-10-31 02:45
Ok, she's definitely coming back lol. There no way EW did a piece with her without appearing in something or advertising something, ya feel me?
Gloomy-Art-28612025-10-31 03:24
She's 60 years old. I think she's aged out.
LookyLou42025-10-31 03:25
Was it supposed to?
Zasa7892025-10-31 04:00
Could it be to avoid having to come up with a reason for a OP character like jean grey- with the Phoenix- to lose to doc doom even with all the other characters that will be involved.
Also the more likely/ obvious answer just one less actor to pay.
Apprehensive_Fig80872025-10-31 04:52
...she was in Days of Future Past and The Wolverine.
OmnipotentHype2025-10-31 05:23
I feel like I'm the only one that genuinely doesn't care if she comes back. She was just ok as Jean.
go4theknees2025-10-31 05:31
Why is there so much X-men stuff in doomsday? Are we really just doing another fanservice rehash of stuff no one has cared about in a decade?
NightmareDJK2025-10-31 06:03
Why wouldn’t they try to bring back everyone? At least ask them if they want to do it?
DeCurt19982025-10-31 06:03
MasterWinston2025-10-31 07:04
Weird she’s not returning for doomsday
JLHSMG2025-10-31 13:01
She's a telepath, she should have approached them instead of just waiting to hear from them.
lordatlas2025-10-31 16:31
Respectfully, if Famke Janssen appeared in an MCU movie, we would have trouble recognising her. Cosmetic surgery has ruined her face.
putyourpawsalloverme2025-10-31 17:35
Sure Jean
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Jlx_272025-10-31 23:47
I mean back then it would've been cool to see her again, but with the way she looks now it would be a bit of a disaster.
mewantcomics2025-11-01 01:47
I think much like the way Wolverine in DP&W is a variant, the X-Men here will be variants, not the actual Fox versions. In this universe, Jean may be dead. There’s only so much time and so many characters you can stick in here. Simply having the X-Men at all immediately makes the audience wonder where this universe’s Wolverine is…
These X-Men could also be from MCU- Wolverine’s universe, but from before they died. It might give that Logan a chance at redemption and motivation in Secret Wars.
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> When asked if Marvel ever asked her to reprise Jean after that Fox era of movies, the actress replied, "Never. Never ever."
I remember feeling pretty betrayed by her at the time. I don’t remember the full scenario, but I’ll be glad to never see her in an X-men movie again.
I still hope to see all of them back in doomsday/secret wars tho
Then again, if we consider Deadpool/Logan (not the two movies I would expect to be in the same universe, lol) a separate timeline from the DoFP timeline, that would explain the different interpretations of characters like Caliban, Colossus, Juggernaut, and even Deadpool himself.
So in essence they're unrelated
And yeah, the timeline is an utter mess. I don't even know if Apocalypse/DF are compatible with the DoFP ending either.
* I assume that the X-Men in Doomsday will come from the universe seen at the end of The Marvels (we'll call this Universe X-A)
* DP&W makes use of multiple universes:
* Universe X-B is the universe that DP&W starts and ends in
* Universe X-C is the universe that the events of Logan took place in. It's possible that Universe X-B = Universe X-C, but this is unconfirmed
* Universe X-D is the universe that "the worst Wolverine" comes from
* And then there are multiple universes shown during the "Power of Love" Wolverine variants montage
* It's possible that Universe X-A might be the same as one of these other universes, but for now, there's no reason to think so.
There's multiple references to the original timeline in the movie (and cut scenes) which don't really make sense if it's in the rebooted timeline. e.g. Charles talks about Liberty Island in a cut scene, which Logan says was a long time ago.
When Logan dies, he wakes up in the other timeline that we saw at the end of DOFP. Everything in Logan takes places between him blacking out in the river and waking up in the other timeline.
I'm not convinced we're dealing with the actual FOX universe, though. The timeline of the FOX verse is a bit to messy to just implant into the MCU. I think it'll be similar to the one we know, but change things to be a bit more comic accurate.
Unless it's a third, unseen timeline where she died but didn't kill Scott.
* X-men 1-3 (possibly also Wolverine Origins)
* First Class (Different Emma Frost than Origins)
* Logan
* Deadpool 3
* Dr Strange 3 Multiverse of Madness
* The Marvels
* Days of Future Past fixed version (Different/much younger Warren/Angel in AoA than X3)
I'm sure there's more and this is assuming that every variation of Jubilee/Shadowcat/Colossus are the same versions across X-men 1-3 and not counting the Jubilee that appears in the original trilogy vs the one from Dark Phoenix.
That's not even counting New Mutants since Illyana is there but I don't think Peter ever mentioned having a sister in the movies and I didn't watch New Mutants to know.
It goes X Men First Class -> X1 -> X2 -> X3 -> The Wolverine -> DOFP Dark Future -> DOFP -> Apocalypse -> Dark Pheonix -> DP1 -> DP2 -> DOFP Good Future -> Supposedly Logan -> DP3. New Mutants is somewhere around Logan. Marvels is unknown and Dr Strange 3 is a different universe.
All of this means you have to retcon Origins completely, which even Fox was happy to do. You also have to accept that some mutants share powers or appear faster with the DoFP time meddling (Angel being the most noteable). I write supposedly Logan, because while it can fit fine in the timeline, the years dont align right.
Making matters worse, IIRC, Mystique is dead at the end of the second trilogy and no longer a mutant at the end of the first, so that gets really messy really fast.
The timelines are a little hard to understand at first, but think of it like First Class, then the original trilogy happens with The Wolverine, DOFP Dark Future, then DOFP rewrites the originals. So Mystique dies in the re-write timeline but depowered(temporarily) in the original.
But the MCU's time doesn't work like that. In the MCU's time, everything from the first trilogy still happens, but there's a branch where the second trilogy happens and the fisrt trilogy cannot because Mystique died.
So we actually get Schrodinger's Xavier and Mystique. Both alive and dead, and we don't know which until we open the box and see which timeline we're in.
No offense to her, but she was kinda old for it even back then
Hugh: But I'm 93?
"Wolverine 27: Starring Hugh Jackman as Really Old Man Logan"
And they aren’t rebooting the multiverse into a single universe since they want still to tell stories set in alternate universes like Marvel Zombies season 2.
Still, I always felt weird that Fox decided to make more movies, but they didn't follow up with OG X-Men after DOFP. Scott and Jean were alive, Logan prevented Sentinels from murdering them. It was a perfect opportunity to explore more comic accurate storylines, amend some mistakes previous movies did (Scott) maybe throw in Jubilee and introduce Emma Frost as well.
Do we actually just... believe her? lol
There will be scenes taking place in the xmen universe and the mansion which will probably have a lot of unannounced xmen cast
The cast list is the cast list, there's no 50 surprise characters.
Wolverine and Deadpool? I get it. They're technically separate, Deadpool was never part of the Foxverse and this Wolverine is a variant. If they appear in Doomsday, the audience will clap, as it's a genuine surprise.
But Jean and Storm? 100% everyone expects them to be in Doomsday alongside the rest of the X-Men. So, Occam's Razor suggests they're not in Doomsday, and negotiations likely failed to secure their return.
And use the timeline changes to wave off any potential backlash.
But it would be odd since the others are returning.
She signed on for X-Men, because Storm was such a major character in the comics, but found that in the movie she had almost no lines and nothing to do and was very unhappy.
By the time the third one was on the drawing board, she was very much over it and wasn't planning to return.
The studio and director gave her a *fake* script with Storm being a central character to get her to sign, and then after she was locked in they gave her the real script. Not an early revision or an alternate take, they literally created a fake script just to convince her to sign.
If you google it, there's many articles and stories about it because it was so wrong. People literally walked away from the movie because it was so messed up.
After that experience, she's been adamant she's not touching the character again.
1. It's Marvel baby. Not Fox. Different team and let's be honest, Barry is getting older. She could negotiate a good payday and be a BIG moment in the movie.
2. As a kid, she was still a standout. She wasn't a main character, but I definately remembered her AND her scene where she kills Toad.
I didn't so not 100%.
Pepper could have been there. As could Hope or Janet if written that way. Or any of them really.
She was in The Wolverine (2013) and DOFP (2014) Logan is the only movie made after that that isnt a reboot.
Also the more likely/ obvious answer just one less actor to pay.
These X-Men could also be from MCU- Wolverine’s universe, but from before they died. It might give that Logan a chance at redemption and motivation in Secret Wars.