Michael Waldron reveals that he and Jeff Loveness pitched an idea of the Young Avengers defeating a Kang variant in ‘Avengers: Kang Dynasty’

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ButWereFriends2025-10-28 22:03

He’s obviously joking

FictionFantom2025-10-28 22:07

Yeah. “First day as a Kang”? Lol

Agreeable_User_Name2025-10-28 22:51

It's not obvious to me, as it seems on brand for his humor. Sounds like it was intended to be a quirky fun scene for the secondary team.

I am not saying it's definitely serious. But it's not clearly a joke to me.

frankdatank_0042025-10-28 22:04

I actually think that the Iron Lad Kang variant would be the perfect villian for a Young Avengers/Champions D+ show.

SharpshootinTearaway2025-10-28 22:17

I like the fact that Iron Lad is originally their teammate, and a heroic variant who is trying to stop his evil variants, though. It's a cool concept.

Jericho-72102025-10-29 03:43

Really though, it would have been a great inciting incident for Kang Dynasty, as he tries to out run the council by going to the "Age of Heroes".

Between that and the end of Secret Wars >!The other Kangs are gone, Time and Battle World are unraveling, and accepts his destiny as He Who Remains, designing the next try of the multiverse is better!<

Front-Win-57902025-10-29 18:55

Riri Williams should've been revealed as a Kang variant

thousandcurrents2025-10-30 16:13

honestly the only angle that could’ve saved MCU’s Riri. a twist like this could’ve retroactively explained a lot of the frankly baffling decisions the studio made for her character, and made sense of why they went out of their way to make her so unlikeable

SchmeckleHoarder2025-10-31 02:03

It works perfectly for Kang. No matter what he does, tries, and fights to stop becoming Kang. He always becomes Kang.

Cool af really.

PaymentTurbulent1932025-10-28 23:32

It's seriously a hugely missed opportunity that they didn't get a Young Avengers project off the ground before Doomsday, because it really would've been perfect.

frankdatank_0042025-10-28 23:41

At least before Secret Wars. But maybe having the team form after Secret Wars would be perfect? Idk.

ravih2025-10-29 04:25

Or before the Young Avengers became, well, not Young anymore

Markus28222025-10-29 22:09

This^ they’re like 25+ now, like cmon. Kamala will probably be entirely out of school by the time we see her again, even though she started in like her sophomore year of high school. And it’s not like we’re getting a season 2 or another marvels movie. Her mainline storyline and relatability in school is over, and we got in once. (Unless they go the college route but like spidey should be doing that, that’s probably better with characters like Connor’s)

BigAlReviews2025-10-30 00:06

Wiccan and Speed could have made it but they soul transfer to late teens or whatever. Kate has the best line "I'm 22"

PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-10-28 23:54

It’s a great idea so naturally they wouldn’t do it

UrbanSquirrel_692025-10-29 00:35

Wow, that would actually be so perfect, I'd be bummed if Marvel didn't go ahead with that. It allows them to continue/wrap up the Kang plot line without actually having to bring back a version played by Jonathan Majors that we've already seen on screen before, so technically it wouldn't be a recast!

EfficientRelease70372025-10-29 01:30

that would be so cool, young avengers need a solid villain to face off against

Automatic-Quality3612025-10-29 03:09

for sure, his backstory fits right in with the younger heroes’ vibe

Alive-Meringue-66982025-10-29 09:32

You are right bro

TrickshotzReddit2025-10-28 22:05

This is clearly a joke 😂

Skychu7682025-10-28 22:24

I feel like he is joking about ridiculous Kang loss in Quantamina

ViralGameover2025-10-28 22:34

That would be a really funny bit honestly.

PayneTrain1819992025-10-29 00:49

Even funnier if it ends with Kate 360 no scoping him right in the head.

hismario1232025-10-28 22:39

i know that guy!

LuckyLunayre2025-10-28 22:44

Clearly a joke, or at least I hope it is. The first enemy the young avengers fight is Kang the conquerer, and they kill him.

Mind you that that one of their people is a kree/skrull hybrid (the son of the original Captain marvel) and the other is a cosmic god and the son of the scarlet witch.

Theyre perfectly equipped to fight him.

Wolventec2025-10-28 23:03

wasnt that the reason for them being founded in the comics young kang(iron lad) brought them together to beat his future self

LuckyLunayre2025-10-28 23:05

Yes, but more importantly, to stop himself from BECOMING Kang

yuzumelodious2025-10-28 23:05

Yeah. Iron Lad pretty much tied to them. (Kang & the Young Avengers)

KantoTapsi8882025-10-29 01:50

Yeah. Beat his future self. I like that. :)

Bleh-Boy2025-10-28 22:58

Kang should’ve been an overarching villain that lead into a Young Avengers series instead of an Avengers movie.

Practical-Debate15982025-10-28 23:00

Moved over you say??

ernie-jo2025-10-28 23:50

That would have been amazing haha

CaptHayfever2025-10-29 00:05

The card sounds kinda lame without very careful phrasing, & I don't think Waldron & Loveness have the dialogue chops for that.

eBICgamer20102025-10-29 00:27

Doing Lizard Kang vs the YA instead of Iron Lad sounds awful for an Avengers film ngl. *They were joking about it.*

They would have treated the Young Avengers as if they were little kids who need to be babysit with kiddie villiains, not a fully-fledged team tied together by gripping themes.

The Avengers faced the inevitablity of AI, and that's before Thanos. The New Avengers brought home to someone whose power made them an easy target for liars. This isn't it.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be humor, but the first villain for any Avengers teams (young or not) should not be treated as an afterthought. Avengers assemble for a reason.

OjamasOfTomorrow2025-10-29 00:31

I would have loved this. Really would have been fun. I hope we still get YA.

Heisenburgo2025-10-29 01:37

He had a little card that said "Be Patient"? A multiversal conqueror was defeated by a bunch of teenagers? Lame Rick and Morty writer shenanigans, glad this person was fired

Adorable_Ad_34782025-10-29 05:28

I'm so glad that film never got made.

D-List heroes defeating variants of Jonathan Major's Kang sounds like something out of an SNL Sketch. "And now Squirrel Girl defeats Kangaroo the Konqueror. Whoa"

NoobFreakT2025-10-29 16:08

What a stupid idea

Cockycent2025-10-29 20:08

The more I read replies on Twitter, MS Spoilers sub, and here, the more I realize nobody cared enough to pay attention when watching the first saga.

From what i've seen, most did it on some speed binge in less than 2 weeks whether it was 80% of it or all of it. Some even brag about skipping films in the first saga, so it adds up.

UnfilteredSan2025-10-30 16:05

For real. Tourists are an epidemic.

RustinWeiner2025-10-29 22:14

has to be a joke, because this sounds terrible!

Krii100fer2025-10-29 23:18

So their idea was for YA do defeat a Kang.... but even few years later we don't have YA or all members revealed. What??? 😭