The X-Men movies should follow the progression of the comics
The first movie sets up the OG ‘63 team against Magneto.
The second movie expands the roster, with Professor X looking into a few mutants from other countries. Basically a Giant size sequel.
The third movie introduces Sinister and teases Apocalypse for a fourth movie.
No more Scott being a bland leader, no more Wolverine being injected into everything and no more Phoenix reboot (X3, Age of Apocalypse ending, Dark Phoenix was enough)
The second movie expands the roster, with Professor X looking into a few mutants from other countries. Basically a Giant size sequel.
The third movie introduces Sinister and teases Apocalypse for a fourth movie.
No more Scott being a bland leader, no more Wolverine being injected into everything and no more Phoenix reboot (X3, Age of Apocalypse ending, Dark Phoenix was enough)
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100%, though, Storm should be main roster from the start.
It was stated that Marvel wouldn’t make a movie with an all white cast and I’d argue that most of them were all white main casts anyway. Guardians is the best representational main cast film I can think of off the top of my head while I’m supposed to be studying Statics.
They’re not going to have their first X-Men group be all white.
I can imagine Jean and Scott as white Latinos, someone like Jenna Ortega in a red wig is believable as Jean. Angel and Prof X? No way, white privilege is part of their characters, the same way Bruce Wayne needs to be white.
Iceman? Eh. Whatever. Maybe.
He's also born blue. He can be played by any actor of any race in blue paint. It's the same case for Gamora or Nebula. The skin color of the actor is irrelevant, they just need to be able to speak English with a believable German accent.
Mr. Sinister has gone completely unused for some reason, and that needs to change ASAP. Magneto as a villain... meh.
Everyone knows Magneto as a villain top to bottom, front to back. There's nowhere near enough intrigue to yet another evil Magneto story and really, the motherfucker hasn't been evil since the mid 2000s.
As someone who is LGBT, a racial and religious minority AND a comic book reader, please stop trying to patronize me, Marvel. I do not need to be pandered to. It's insulting.
I do not need to see characters gender/race/sexuality/age-bent to "see" myself and connect to the story. What I need is a good story. **STORY OVER MESSAGE.** It's been 6 years since they got the rights back to the X-men. They had plenty of time to come up with an Oscar-worthy script... with a diverse cast of characters straight from the comics.
And I want to see mutant villain teams. I am tired of sentinels and humans as the main antagonists.
Do a couple of post credits scenes like that (maybe Hank dealing with his physical changes or Warren dealing with his father and his new wings)and then have the first film be the OG five at the school learning to use their abilities and getting to know each other and developing their characters and have the climax be Magneto and the Brotherhood (maybe with Wanda?) at the missile base.
Movie ends and new post credit scenes beginning with small, stocky, furry dude sitting at a bar and bald wheelchair dude rolls up on him and says, “My students have gone missing and I need your help. I’m putting together a team…” and the second movie is Giant Size X Men #1
I wasn’t as excited about most of the Fox movies because there were a load of characters who weren’t immediately recognizable to me. Some were even “fused” versions of multiple characters in one actor. Even the first movie is actually just a REALLY good Wolverine movie. I think if Marvel doesn’t get greedy and spaces it out and keeps the characters’ personalities and images recognizable, they’ll develop superior films to the Fox films.
Edit: I edited the first paragraph because I felt I wasn’t clear enough in indicating where I’d like to see the first film start.
Could be at the end of any movie. Like the twins showing up in a post credits scene in Winter Soldier. Maybe a Spider Man or Ms Marvel project? Sorry I wasn’t clear.
It's a good idea. We know Feige isn't that keen on rebooting stuff though, when we get the X-Men I think they're going to be established already.
Remember that Rambeau is with a group of X-Men currently, I think they will participate in Secret Wars somehow. Then after the soft reboot they'll probably be more established.
Feige has been pretty successful with this approach too but I can’t help thinking he’s painting himself into a corner if they decide to go this way. Marvel tends to adapt existing stories from the books and there isn’t much left of the X Men to adapt. What are they going to do? The Mutant Massacre? The X Cutioner’s Song? I hope they don’t try Krakoa. They will have established characters with histories that audiences may or may not have seen and not much material to go forward with. Plus, the actors are aging. I’m sure you could get away with recasting Kitty Pryde or even Rogue but woe to the actor who has to follow Hugh Jackman or even Halle Berry. It’s going to be interesting to see how they get around this stuff
Although im not that big a fan of x-men in space. Like Scott's father being a space-pirate or stuff like that, i prefer when their stories are more down to earth, pun not intended.
I like the Starjammers too but they might be better suited elsewhere. The Summers’ boys would certainly benefit by getting out from under that convoluted backstory. Have the Brood and the Shi’ar in a Captain Marvel movie!
I have the feeling they will be folding in the established FoX-Universe, in my arc there is a reboot.
If I had the pencil - Start with some iteration of Giant-Size X-Men (5-8 characters) as an already established team going up against Magneto and The Brotherhood. The Brotherhood catch wind of a conspiracy against mutant kind. The X-Men stop them but we find out there was merit to their beliefs all along - say the Weapon X program/ Neverland - Sinister teased.
In the sequel you can introduce some of the New Mutants being trained by that team going against a govt sponsored team of mutants as the govt feels it is best to intervene in bodily autonomy and the false pretense of "Human" rights - It won't be Freedom Force but X-Factor (Havok's squad). They have to eventually team up to defeat Hodge/ the Professor/ Cornelius/ Sinister (take your pick) and a Sentinel or Weapon X team. Cable is teased in a stinger in a Days of Future Past future.
That tease leads us into the end of this trilogy, pretty much X-tinction Agenda - Genosha and Sentinels - Big finale!
Sinister and Apocalypse teased for future.
I’d rather they do something that fits with the wider MCU while still reflecting the key themes of the X-Universe (persecution, racism, found family - there’s loads of directions you can go in).
There’s so much great material beyond the O5 that can be used to reflect what X-Men mean in 2025 without having to rehash either previous movies or just copy the same progression from comics written in 1963.
There is a reason why the sales were awful and the comic was canceled until the All-New era. You can do a successful X-Men film without Wolverine or Storm. But doing one without any of them? Yeah, no.
Angel and Iceman are not it. If Marvel Studios wants to start small, Jean, Scott, Storm, Beast, and a newcomer (Kitty? Jubilee?) is the perfect recipe.
With Wolverine showing up in the sequel.
Have a relatively young cast as the OG5 (Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Iceman, Angel) along with Storm as their main teacher/field leader. Have the OG5 already be somewhat experienced, but still make mistakes. Also introduce Colossus, Nightcrawler and Banshee (along with Moira) as secondary characters who help out the main cast, and then have them take on bigger roles in the second movie where we see Iceman and Angel leave the team.
Rogue should also join in the second movie after being part of Magneto's crew in the first.
Don't make Magneto into the first villain though. Just introduce him as Xavier's old friend, who he has had a fallout with, but still has respect for, and have him play the role of the "devil's advocate" without being an outright villain just yet.
Do Mr. Negative in the first movie and have him secretly be at the top of the Sentinel program, with Senator Kelly being just a figurehead. Show Negative's entire backstory with Apocalypse in Ancient Egypt just like in the comics, connect it to the Eternals lore even to enhance the story, and make Mr. Negative someone who is afraid of Apocalypse's return and the threat he poses for everyone, which is why he's trying to create the Sentinels to be able to fight him. I think that would be a good twist, while keeping the backstory and motive of Negative from the comics intact. Of course, Sinister would survive at the end, and having seen the power of Cyclops and Jean Grey, he would try to replicate it, thinking it could defeat Apocalypse.
Then, the second movie can focus on Magneto becoming more active due to Kelly and Trask doubling down on the Sentinel program and creating Master Mold (which would turn rogue at the end) and it could show Rogue's slow turn to the good side by the end of the second act. The team could be Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Storm, Colossus, Nightcrawler and Rogue at the end. The movie could also introduce Kitty Pryde as a new student who has a small background role and a flirt with Colossus.
The end of the trilogy could be Days of Future Past, giving Kitty Pryde a more protagonistic role and introduce Bishop. Nimrod would of course be one of the main villains.
This would conclude the Sentinel trilogy and the more, relatively, street-level/political stories of the X-Men, only to move to the more fantastical in the second trilogy.
At the same time, we would have a Wolverine series running parallel to the X-Men trilogy, showing all of his past with Sabertooth, Yukio, Stryker and the Adamantium experiments, Team X and Silverfox, Alpha Flight, Gambit, Omega Red etc
The second trilogy would start off with the Shi'ar Civil War, introducing Lilandra, D'Ken, the M'Kran Crystal and the Starjammers, including Corsair, Cyclops' father. Wolverine and Gambit would join the X-Men here, starting Gambit and Rogue's relationship and the Wolverine/Jean/Scott love triangle. And of course, Jean would sacrifice herself at the end of the movie, trying to save everybody, only to secretly be saved by the Phoenix force who created a duplicate of her body and assumed Jean's identity, all the while the real Jean is stuck in a coma inside a crashed space-ship in the middle of the ocean.
Then, the fifth movie would be an adaptation of the Dark Phoenix Saga, fully accurate with Emma Frost, Sebastian Shaw and the Hellfire Club, ending with the Dark Phoenix, sacrificing herself, making the X-Men, she died for real this time, only for Sinister to plant a clone of Jean Grey that he managed to create, making it seem like the Phoenix died, but Jean's body somehow survived. The Phoenix however finds a new host inside Madelyne.
The final movie of the second trilogy would start off with Scott and Jean's marriage. Having almost lost her twice, Scott wants to waste no time and marries Jean right away in fear that he might lose her again. Madelyne and Scott have a child, Nathan Summers, and they have a normal, happy life, when Jean wakes up from her coma and comes back to the X-Mansion to see everything that she has missed.
Madelyne eventually learns that she is not the real Jean Grey, but just a clone created and used by Mr. Sinister, giving birth to the Inferno storyline, where she goes insane after she has her powers awakened by a demonic pact and she becomes the Goblyn Queen.
Finally, we have the 7th/8th 2-part film, which would be a conclusion to the Mutant Saga as a whole, featuring the return of Apocalypse and of course, an older Nathan Summers aka Cable, Scott's and Madelyne's son, coming from the future to stop him.
This is more or less exactly the progression of the comics and TAS/'97, so it would be pretty accurate and make for a great film series. Of course we can also have mutant-related series on the side exploring lesser-known mutants and teams like Excalibur and the New Mutants.
Professor X stayed on earth and made the new team led by Storm.
OG team and new team have to learn to work together despite being strangers.
This keeps Magneto a holocaust survivor and we can have both a Cyclops led team and a Storm one too.