Of all the series and films, which projects did not have a significant impact within the universe?

To clarify, when I say "they had no impact within the universe," I mean that, generally speaking, and beyond the protagonist and his inner circle, the project didn't have a major impact on the MCU narrative, as it didn't receive any sequels from other projects and, to a certain extent, left everything exactly as it was at the beginning.

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Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-27 04:59

For example:

\- Ant-Man: Quantunmania is set entirely within the Quantum Realm, so at first, nothing that happens there has no impact on Earth, and the film ends as it began, complete with Scott's monologue.

\- Spider-Man: No Way Home ends with literally everyone largely forgetting about this adventure. No one in the MCU even knew there were three Spider-Mans. The cracks in the sky only lasted a few minutes, and all the villains were forgotten over the months because the Bugle blamed Spider-Man for everything.

yaassensei2025-10-27 05:29

That's not true, doctor strange quote the happening in MoM.

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-27 05:50

True, but it's not treated as a big deal either. It was basically a

"Oh yeah, we had a mishap regarding the multiverse thanks to Spider-Man."

But it doesn't go beyond that comment. The rest of the movie doesn't mention what happened in NWH again (almost as if it never happened, and everything necessary to know about the multiverse was learned in MOM, not NWH).

I must say that in the MOM teaser that came with NWH, it seemed like it would have more of an impact, but in the end, it didn't.

Bendythenightfury2025-10-27 05:33

No people just forgot Peter was Spider-Man. To them Spider-Man did everything the same except they don't know he's Peter

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-27 05:54

Yeah, but details like the harassment over his revealed identity and the reason he asked for the spell in the first place are forgotten. There's nothing in the ending to indicate that MJ and Ned still have that adventure in mind.

And well, everything else I said still holds true. The MCU never found out there were two other Spider-Mans. The rifts came as quickly as they left, and the villains' existence was forgotten within months.

Even Aunt May's death was also attributed to Spidey.

kawaiinessa2025-10-27 05:46

ya and with kang no longer the big bad of the mcu i doubt that movie will have any real relevance.

ArmadilloOk14452025-10-27 20:10

Kang's still gonna be in Doomsday, just not as the main threat

ArmadilloOk14452025-10-27 20:10

I mean the Council of Kangs are likely gonna target the sacred timeline because someone from there (Scott) took out one of their own, which they could see as a declaration of war (Secret War, if you will)

Least_Rain80272025-10-27 05:01

the thing is at this moment in time we have no idea. they may bring something back from phase 2 in phase 7. oh wait they are!

all in all we will never know until the MCU is completely over

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-27 05:04

True, although for now we can work with what we have, for example, for now, Werewolf By Night had no impact on the MCU.

Nightmaru2025-10-27 06:58

I think this is the only correct answer, everything else has been referenced elsewhere except for this.

ArmadilloOk14452025-10-27 20:08

Nah bro Man-Thing is gonna be in Doomsday trust (please let me get this hopium I need to see Man-Thing again soon 😭😭)

ba_dum_tiss_2025-10-27 05:14

What are they bringing back from phase 2 - Ultron in Vision Quest?

Least_Rain80272025-10-27 05:24

Ultron in Visionquest, the Mandarin actor in Wonder Man

Darth_Tycho2025-10-27 10:09

Well Trevor was in Shang-Chi as well, but yes he originated in phase 2

DoctorDoomedFuture2025-10-30 16:11

The thing mentioned rahhhh

Buhos_En_Pantelones2025-10-27 05:07

I would say Spider-Man 1. It's a pretty self contained story that doesn't really effect anything going forward.

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-27 05:09

Raimi's Spider-Man 1 or are you referring to Homecoming? 😅

Sorry, I didn't quite understand. Although if it is Homecoming, I guess we'll have to wait and see what comes out in Brand New Day. Everything seems to indicate that it will be almost a sequel to Homecoming rather than No Way Home.

darknecross2025-10-27 05:11

I’d argue GotGv2 was pretty much a side story with the only major change being the addition of Mantis.

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-27 05:17

true, and that Nebula "joined" the Guardians... but I'd say that was better cemented in Infinity War and Endgame

Ranos1312025-10-27 05:59

It allowed Nebula to finally work through her hatred of Gamora which led to everything that happened in Infinity War. With no GoG2, Nebula is still trying to get back at Gamora and is never captured by Thanos allowing him to learn that Gamora knew the location of the Soul Stone.

CobaltAnimator2025-10-27 11:45

do you mean preventing? otherwise nothing changes

Ranos1312025-10-27 12:30

What?

Royal-walking-machin2025-10-27 06:07

And the death of Yondu which has less universe implications but more so personal ones for characters like Peter, Rocket, and Kraglin. Oh and it also ends with the beginning of the creation of Adam Warlock (who currently hasn’t done much of note other than be a secondary character in Vol 3)

AmaterasuWolf212025-10-27 11:46

Gamora and Nebula?? Rocket and Yondu?? Peter and his daddy issues???

mmazurr2025-10-27 20:43

GotG 2 set up the Sovereign wanting to seek revenge against the Guardians, which kicks off the plot for 3. Also Nebula decides to seek out Thanos at the end of the movie and we catch up with that plot during Infinity War.

randmperson22025-10-27 05:13

Iron Man 3. The biggest larger narrative beat that happened was Tony destroying all of his suits…only to turn around and create the Iron Legion (and work on Ultron) immediately after.

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-27 05:15

true, because not even the whole Mandarin thing was orchestrated by Wenwu

Lock_Winter2025-10-27 05:22

WHAT IF Trevor Slattery wield the ten rings

Lock_Winter2025-10-27 05:43

[Fin Fang Foom](https://youtu.be/kYWeGIH_iVU?si=O1h0AnEyj0Ferxvb)

FallingOutSir2025-10-27 05:26

Trevor Slattery is set to appear in his second MCU project post Iron Man 3. The film’s 10 Rings is so infamous that in universe, a real guy was bothered about it. Other films have introduced more with less continued threads. Iron Man 3 is nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be

randmperson22025-10-27 05:39

Oh, I’m not a huge fan of that movie but by no means do I think it’s bad!

I just think its impact on the larger MCU is minimal. Wenwu was pissed about Trevor and Killian’s use of the Ten Rings but that didn’t change his plans. And Trevor has only been comedic relief since his introduction, so not a huge impact there either.

Again, just to OP’s question, not trying to start a flame war against IM3.

AnonymousFriend802025-10-27 15:17

It's because you are not a fan of it that you think it has no impact. Stop being delusional.

The movie had a huge effect on one of the main protagonists of the entire franchise. And is a part of his overall character arc.

randmperson22025-10-27 15:38

Okay.

Ranos1312025-10-27 05:55

Uh Ironman 3 had lots of impact.
- Tony broke his promise to Pepper by building new suits which lead to them being separated during Civil War. Tony’s state of mind was impacted which likely influenced his decision to support the accords.
- Trevor impersonated the leader of the Ten Rings which angered Wen Wu. Trevor was then kidnapped by the Ten Rings and held there for years. His assistance was essential to help Shang-Chi get to Ta Lo.
- The arrest of the VP likely changed the political landscape in America which eventually helped Ross become president.

DefVanJoviAero2025-10-27 06:27

I'd argue Tony's ptsd led him to building Ultron. He's clearly off/affected and acts weird in the opening of Age of Ultron. Then his guilt over Ultron and Sokovia leads him to accept the accords in Civil War.

randmperson22025-10-27 06:31

I agree with that! But I attribute his PTSD more to Avengers than IM3.

ToDandy2025-10-27 17:51

Not a good pick. The iron legion in Iron Man 3 is his first step towards creating Ultron, Trevor and Ten Tings appear in later entries, and there is significant character development for Tony that leads into Civil War and even Spider-Man Homecoming.

GlizzyHubTv2025-10-27 05:15

Black Panther

randmperson22025-10-27 05:19

Not sure about that one. The biggest shift was T’Challa opening up Wakanda to the rest of the world, which had a pretty significant impact on their role in Infinity War and moving forward.

Uncanny_Doom2025-10-27 05:16

Most of them didn't. The universe is driven more by it's character development than by events.

Lock_Winter2025-10-27 05:20

The tease upon the mandarin in iron man 3 like I watch the 90s cartoon
Planet hulk subplot in Thor ragnarok and more lore on the previous former champions like ares and beta ray bill
Thor love and thunder I thought it would be a battle for love Jane foster vs the enchantress
I’ve seen most of 90s marvel cartoons reruns on Toon Disney Jetix I’ve been a Spider-Man iron man hulk only fan not know much about other marvel until thanks to the movies and yet feel a total noob not knowing original lore upon marvel comics of earth 616

DefVanJoviAero2025-10-27 06:30

Please learn punctuation, this was hard to read.

GarySoneji2025-10-27 05:20

Stop with the idea that there is a narrative. Almost every project stands alone, while having a small contribution to the general world-building of the MCU. The history and future possibilities are expanded on- that’s it.

DecoyOne2025-10-27 05:21

To answer this, I think you have to limit to pre-Endgame movies, since newer ones haven’t necessarily been resolved. So sticking with that, what movies could you remove that would have the least impact on the grander plot line in the Infinity Saga? For me, those are movies that don’t interact with the infinity stones and don’t have the world building necessary for IW and Endgame.

With that in mind, my immediate answers are Hulk, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, Spider-Man 1. They’re largely self-contained, they don’t have infinity stones, they don’t introduce a critical character that isn’t fleshed out or adjusted by later movies (for example, the Hulk has a pretty different feel in his movie), and they don’t add something you need to understand to get to Endgame. With every other movie, I can think of a greater tie.

Spider-Man 1 is the one I’m most on the fence about because the connection between Tony and Peter grows quite a bit, but that connection is hinted at in Civil War. And really it’s the only one post-Phase I that seems to fit.

Solid-Move-14112025-10-27 06:50

Iron Man 2 introduced Black Widow, War Machine and pushed Avengers Initiative.

Even if story wasn't particularly good, it definitely had an impact like Black Widow alone gives it more relevance than a lot of MCU projects since she was part of OG 6 in MCU

the_other_Scaevitas2025-10-27 22:04

Iron man 2 had War machine becoming a hero, introduced black widow and stark getting a new reactor.

scottyjrules2025-10-27 05:27

I don’t think Moon Knight is referenced anywhere else in the MCU. Same with Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-27 05:29

True, the same with the whole god thing since Amitt was free for less than an hour at most... and in the end his death as well as the main villain's was literally inside a limo without anyone knowing what happened.

_JustAnna_19922025-10-27 06:13

The Netflix shows were never really canon. Feige apparently was not a big fan of any of them since he had no part in their creation. Daredevil was extremely popular so he only recently made exemptions. D+ shows are all of course canon.

Wondrous-Junction262025-10-27 08:17

The Netflix shows have always been canon since day one! Kevin Feige can fucken butthurt that Jeph Loeb was able to make Marvel content that rivaled the movies. Feige put out several terrible movies!

scottyjrules2025-10-27 14:40

The Netflix shows are canon

AnonymousFriend802025-10-27 15:13

Stuff made by competitor studios were never canon until they were. Hell, half of the stuff referenced in Deadpool and Wolverine wasn't even popular or good, and still showed up.

jigglyjop2025-10-27 06:24

It’s referenced in the new Zombies show, I think.

gaypirate32025-10-27 09:54

Yes because Zombies is gonna have a BIG impact in the MCU lol

AmaterasuWolf212025-10-27 11:45

Looks at Blade*

musthavecupcakes_192025-10-27 06:35

Moon Knight is in *What If…?* and referenced in *Marvel Zombies*, but he’s not been mentioned at all in the main timeline

Romnonaldao2025-10-27 06:40

He hasnt personally but the ice cream truck he drove is in DP&W

Romnonaldao2025-10-27 06:39

Moon Knight is in Marvel Zombies (thought its Blade not Marc) and another Episode of What If. Also, the ice cream truck Marc drives in Moon Knight is in Deadpool and Wolverine.

Luke Cage and Iron Fist appear in Defenders alongside Daredevil. Being that we just got Daredevil to interact with the rest of the MCU, the others will most likely come along eventually.

_JAD19_2025-10-27 08:11

Harlem’s Paradise has an ad in Times Square when Fisk becomes mayor and gives his big speech

RudyRusso2025-10-27 08:25

Luke Cage is mentioned in Cloak and Dagger. Cloak and Dagger were in the Runaways.

DigificWriter2025-10-27 08:31

Cloak and Dagger and Runaways aren't part of the MCU.

StardustOasis2025-10-27 08:48

Yes they are.

DigificWriter2025-10-27 08:50

Marvel Studios has declared that they aren't by excluding them from the MCU's Official Canon.

scottyjrules2025-10-27 14:41

Cloak and Dagger and Runaways are not officially part of the canon

Ordinary-Chain-80472025-10-27 05:28

Secret Invasion wait what Secret Invasion

Bad_Username-19992025-10-27 07:47

Shhhhh. We don't talk about it

ZachRyder2025-10-27 07:54

What is it?

Atom74562025-10-27 08:16

Senseless hate on a good show for not being like the comics

Ph455ki12025-10-27 09:35

It's a secret, duh

Atom74562025-10-27 08:16

Literally was heavily impactfuk with the skrulls in the marvels but keep acting weird because yall love to hate on the MCU for no valid reason

DigificWriter2025-10-27 08:42

Secret Invasion retroactively fleshes out and rewrites Nick Fury's entire character history going back all the way to the events of Captain Marvel.

It also leads into The Marvels by mentioning both Emperor Droge's Skrull colony on Tarnax and the Kree-Skrull peace talks that Dar-Benn uses as a pretense for stealing Tarnax's atmosphere.

bloodoftheseven2025-10-27 11:32

I am still hoping for the writers to make the Kree skull war be an important part of the MCU.

Maybe a future movie.

Squidkid62025-10-27 21:55

I think you mean Agents of Shield Season 4: Arc 2

Hollywood4442025-10-27 05:34

Black panther 2

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-27 05:56

I don't agree, T'Challa and Ramonda die (very important figures in the geopolitical environment of the MCU), the commercialization of Vibranium is limited, which ends up forcing nations to look for a similar resource on the Celestial Island and therefore, to the discovery of Adamantium

Any-Transition952025-10-27 06:05

To add to that, Namor and Shuri are part of the main cast chair lineup for Doomsday as well, working together, a continuation of the BP2 ending. And there's Shuri with Mephisto.

Edit: Riri with Mephisto

ChristAndCherryPie2025-10-27 06:17

Riri

Any-Transition952025-10-27 07:07

Oops, brain lag moment

Hollywood4442025-10-27 06:16

True but I still feel like it doesn’t fit in anywhere in the linear story of the multiversal saga. Even if they went cosmic like they originally meant to do, it doesn’t fit.

SadHumbleFlower272025-10-27 05:56

Eternals, Echo, Werewolf By Night, and Moon Knight.

DigificWriter2025-10-27 05:59

Echo directly sets up Daredevil: Born Again.

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-27 06:01

mmm... 50/50, really the beginning of the series already gives you the necessary context to understand why Fisk wants to be mayor, and the evangelization that Maya gave him in the finals didn't change it much at all.

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-27 05:59

I disagree with Eternals, since the Celestial Island ultimately became a very important element in the MCU thanks to Brave New World, which led to the discovery of Adamantium.

As for the rest, it's true, especially Echo. Fisk's evangelism ultimately proved useless, because in Born Again, he's still the same bastard, just with less trauma.

ACEof522025-10-27 05:57

Doctor strange

Positive_Patient40192025-10-27 06:07

The Eternals. Hands down

DigificWriter2025-10-27 06:10

The Emergence of Tiamat Island directly impacts Captain America: Brave New World.

Positive_Patient40192025-10-27 07:27

Ok. I’ll give you that 🧐

Main-Key-12712025-10-27 06:21

Echo moon knight werewolf by night secret invasion

Iamtherealbuk2025-10-27 06:26

I feel like Werewolf by Night is the best answer for this question

musthavecupcakes_192025-10-27 06:37

Agree with this. Of all the Marvel Studios projects, *WWBN* is the most isolated

Romnonaldao2025-10-27 06:48

So far (excluding the shows):

The events of Guardians 2 didn't have too much of an impact. Yondus death, yes, but over all the events of the movie had very little impact on the rest of the universe, or how things played out

Far From Home impacted Peters life, but didn't have much impact on anything else that happened after it, other than No Way Home

Shang-Chi's events are rather isolated at the moment

Deadpool and Wolverine didnt even take place on the main timeline and the events havent impacted any major storylines

the_other_Scaevitas2025-10-27 22:06

GoTG 2 also had Nebula and Mantis joining the guardians, and Peter losing his celestial powers

Romnonaldao2025-10-27 22:12

Nebula has gone off by herself during Infinity War and Mantis's presence had a little effect but over all wasnt a deciding factor.

Peters powers were relevant in the previous film and that film, but was never important afterwards.

I'm just saying the plot of GotG had little impact on the overall story of the infinity saga

the_other_Scaevitas2025-10-28 00:33

Nebula joining the Guardians and mending her relationship with Gamora was pretty important, especially with Gamora being the only one with the knowledge of Vormir. I admit I do not remember infinity war and endgame that well, but if I am not mistaken Thanos learnt that Gamora knows where the Soul stone is because Nebula and Gamora talked about it. There might be more important things but I don't know them off the top of my head

Mantis helped in the fight against Thanos and almost won

Also Peter's celestial ancestry gave him some resistance against the power stone which is why he was able to hold it in the first movie for so long. Would it have played any part in infinity saga? probably not

AwarenessOk77482025-10-27 06:57

Echo (except for one post-credits scene), Secret Invasion, Brave New World, Eternals (unfortunately), the latest seasons of What If.

Stormik2025-10-27 09:05

I'd argue Eternals had one of the biggest impacts. At least I think adamantium seems like a big deal, doesn't it? Unless they "forget" about it that is, like the Eternals themselves. That's indeed unfortunate.

AwarenessOk77482025-10-27 10:12

And how did adamantium figure in the new Cap? That's right, it didn't. There was just one battle on the island, and that was it. We didn't see any properties of adamantium (for the uninformed viewer), and it wasn't used by the characters in any way (although it seems that in the original script, the Red Hulk was defeated using adamantium). If we remove it from the story, will anything change for the entire MCU? No. I'll be laughing if the Avengers don't use adamantium on Earth-199999.

Stormik2025-10-27 10:34

BNW is the second latest movie to happen in the main timeline. It came out this year. It's way too soon to be jumping to conclusion about adamantium and its role in the MCU. They just used the movie to introduce adamantium. Kinda like the infinity stones were directly mentioned for the first time in a post credit scene.

AwarenessOk77482025-10-27 11:16

Never mind that the Infinity Stones were first mentioned long before the saga's climax, and in the case of BNW, next year will be The Avengers.

And here we weren't introduced to adamantium at all. They simply said the metal existed, and the plot didn't need it at all. And even the rumors about The Avengers didn't mention adamantium.

the_other_Scaevitas2025-10-27 22:02

I figured it’s setting things up. BNW is relatively new so we haven’t had much time to explore it yet

the_other_Scaevitas2025-10-27 22:01

Eternals has a big impact especially after Captain America brave new world

The giant celestial body in the ocean is referenced quite a lot

AwarenessOk77482025-10-28 07:00

The island doesn't really play any role in the plot. There was a fight over it once, and that was it. What adamantium is isn't revealed.

chomperstyle2025-10-27 07:32

Idk if i just didn’t remember anything but has shang chi been brought up again?

eagc72025-10-27 07:56

animated variants aside, none unless you wanna count the Ten Rings logo showing up in Ms. Marvel during the flashback as to how the bangle was found.

Maybe Wonder Man? since Trevor will be on it

Gobby-TheGoblin2025-10-27 07:41

Werewolf by night has had 0 impact on anything else.

Feanixxxx2025-10-27 08:01

Moon Knight, the Marvel shows except Daredevil and Punisher. Altough except Daredevil appearance in Spiderman one time, they two also didn't do much for the whole MCU, rather their own place.

Black Panther 2 also didn't do mich yet, right?

DigificWriter2025-10-27 08:29

Wakanda Forever directly sets up Ironheart and indirectly sets up Captain America: Brave New World.

Feanixxxx2025-10-27 11:34

Yeah okay but Iron Heart didn't do much yet.

Yeah, Mephisto and so on, but we haven't seen anything with him yet.

And what has Brave New World to do with it? Maybe I forgot lol

DigificWriter2025-10-27 15:20

The resource arms race that is set off in Wakanda Forever is what leads to the mining of Tiamat Island, which leads to the discovery of Adamantium and the events of Brave New World.

Feanixxxx2025-10-27 17:53

Ah alright

usmannaeem2025-10-27 08:46

The Marvel Universe is based on hundreds of stories bringing many many characters from the comics. Lots of stories because their are lots of character lives. So impact really shouldn't be measured in the universal single direction or way. Take each story individually on its own, rather than following the big story ending at the end of a cinematic decade cycle, otherwise you miss out on the tiny details and nuances.

KST_052025-10-27 09:22

Echo

spidervenom6192025-10-27 09:36

Love and Thunder and Secret Invasion (and Don't give me that it set up Marvels, it didn't Fury's Character in Marvels never once mentions what happened during Secret Invasion),

darthyogi2025-10-27 11:23

The Eternals, Shang-Chi (Maybe will have in Doomsday) Moon Knight, Werewolf by Night, Secret Invasion, Deadpool & Wolverine

OriginalInjury45492025-10-27 11:41

Eternals

DigificWriter2025-10-27 15:22

"Eternals"

Directly impacts Captain America: Brave New World.

vicv2182025-10-27 13:24

Eternals

The31stUser2025-10-27 15:22

Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, and Homecoming to name some when I would leave out filler films for the Infinity Saga

rtslac2025-10-27 20:36

Helstrom. Most people probably don't even remember it exists.

the_other_Scaevitas2025-10-27 21:59

So far Shang Chi.

The most relevant that movie has been was in Marvel Zombies…

CamMTE2025-10-28 21:24

Deadpool and Wolverine. It was a nothing burger of a movie. Add Secret Invasion, Quantumania and Love and Thunder as well

evilprozac792025-10-28 22:52

I'd say Shang Chi, so far.

She-Hulk

Fakeidly2025-10-29 05:19

Antman and the Wasp movie impact: 🤡

End Credits impact: 🗿🗿