Why did she get a lot of hate? Second rewatch of MCU and in Endgame she's actually kinda cool.

MAGA. 90% of the criticism was conservative grifters making 10 videos a week on youtube about how Brie Larson was a feminazi and wanted to kill all men

Personally I don't have a problem with Brie Larson, but lots of people found her general "vibe" too girlboss-y, and lots of sweaty nerds don't like that.

Because women in a position of power makes insecure man babies scared to be alive, which in turn causes them to complain LOUDLY.

Conservative people just don’t like snarky women. I loved her in all her work

I’m getting into her comics right now and comics Carol has a lot more personality than the Carol of the first film.

The second film felt like it was trying to get her there.

Personally the most boring character out of all the leads. Brie Larson gives a bland flavorless performance in Captain Marvel and is even worse in Endgame. They didn't write her well but she also had to compete with people we'd seen grow for years, she was kinda shoe horned in.

A slightly better than mid first movie, and her second one isn't much better.  There was a lot of hype leading up to her from her tease in Infinity War and I remember people saying Marvel and DC were kind of racing to get their first big female centered movie out before the other and Wonder Woman won and became really popular.  I enjoyed the first CM movie enough, but it's no where near the best MCU movies and after Infinity War I guess people were hoping for a little more.  It's such a shame she wasn't given more of a chance because I think Brie Larson is great in the role and much better than Gal Gadot.  She's definitely gotten even better though, I think most people liked her in Endgame right?

I always enjoyed this one. It was corny blockbuster start to finish. Brie Larson was way cooler in this movie than I'm ever going to be. 

Marvel sadly has a lot of incel/comicsgate fans who hated the idea of a powerful woman hero.

I think she’s great!


I like Larson and think shes a great actress.  That said, its not just a product of sexism.


Her premiere standalone movie was boring and her acting was stiff. She was literally the least interesting character in her own movie. I thought things were much better in her second movie which i liked a lot (i know im in a minority there).


Also it annoyed the shit out of me that Black Widow didn't get a movie until her character was DEAD but Caprain Marvel got one first.

It’s not about the character it’s about the actress, and how she thought it’d be useful for her career to handle her activism. Same mistake committed by Rachel Zegler.

Her existence retroactively created plot holes and damages Fury as a character

Feige blamed The Marvels flop on movies where D+ shows are required viewing not being a good idea.

Makes me wonder if they’re waiting a bit and they’ll try a soft rebooted Captain Marvel 3 down the line. Maybe during the Mutant Saga.

She did not get actual hate from MCU fans, only internet trolls. She is a great actor and character. Savior. But Brie said something about one of her other films that was directed toward a female audience. A small group of fragile white men took offense, and organized a hate campaign on her personal life and her work ever since. It is the dumbest thing on Earth.

I've always liked her character. *Captain Marvel* is on my top 10 list of favorite MCU movies so far (though admittedly I haven't yet revisited my rankings to include this year's movies), and I really enjoyed *The Marvels* too.

As to why she gets so much hate - I've seen a lot of complaints that Carol Danvers is overpowered, she has no development/growth or real story arc, she was introduced too late, she was going to be overused and overshadow the established characters, etc. And I've seen a lot of complaints about Brie Larson, mostly that she's misandrist for comments she's made that, as far as I've been able to gather, have been taken rather far out of context.

These are just things I've seen. I don't share those opinions.

Girl.

I thought she was very cool. And she didn't put up with a lot, because, I mean, look at her friggen power level. Why would she let the guys run the show when she could end it in 30 seconds?

She’s hella cool tbh.


My biggest gripe was how they skipped the entire kree counter offensive arc we were teased.

My wife and i are huge brie larson fans ( after watching Room) and i am a big fan of the captain marvel character. But i got to say the movies were boring and generic. The trailer pumped me up for the first one and the movie itself was ok, not even good or great. The second one was abysmal.

Unfortunately a lot of people just don’t like knowing women can be just as powerful as men.

i love her. i do think she should be on the Avengers team permanently considering it's named after her.

like her movie should've been had the subtitle "The First Avenger" not Cap's as the idea wasn't even a thing when Cap was alive

I liked her and I liked her as the character. I didnt like Marvel hyping her up as like “the solution to Thanos” and then she is in the film for like 10 minutes and doesn’t help out too much.

Also I don’t like the girl team up scene because moments before we see her take out the entire ship. Why does she all of a sudden need help? Because she is carrying the gauntlet? Doesn’t stop her from just charging through a tank or two in the same scene.

She was terrible in interviews, kept saying Captain Marvel would beat every hero ever. It rubbed people the wrong way

That hate was a very, very vocal mega-minority of fans. Larson is fine.

My only issue with her casting was her physical stature, because she is so petite that shes hard to take seriously at times. But her acting compensates for that.

Because of youtubers

Ur gonna get a lot of people saying right-wing/incel stuff and girfters being the main reason and yea they were loud especially on YouTube. But for me I think she's just bland her personality is she's stupid strong and badass. I just never once felt like she was a real person and also how they hyped her up only for her to kinda just idk not be anything special really left me meh.

More controversially I think how they marketed and how Brie talked during interviews left me feeling like she's cringe, I can separate actor and character, but when I find both either annoying or bland then it leaves me with little to love.

Like Falcon since becoming Cap I felt has been so damn boring I know it hasn't been long, 1 movie but damn he lost so much. Yet I adore Anthomy Mackie dude is charming af and I want to see more or his character in the hopes he'll play better as a support which unfortunately for him is usually the case.

Brie rules. The character sucks. She’s good in Endgame but in her own movie she’s so boring.

I love Brie Larson. I don’t give a single fuck about a single interview she’s given which offended some people. I was excited for her casting, because I truly believe she’s one of the most talented young actresses out there. Short Term 12 is one of my favourite movies of the 2010s.

I also was incredibly disappointed in her portrayal. Again, she’s a talented actress, but the way in which she was written and directed is just incredibly dull.

The hate started way before the release of the movie, particularly on 4chan then after that the grifters started obsessing with her...that quote from her started it all: "I do not need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn't work for him about a Wrinkle In Time. It wasn't made for him" so of course they immediatly considered her hardcore woke feminist that hates white dudes.

I remember her being compared to Gal Gadot at the time who had just don’t th first Wonder Woman movie

Never had a problem with Brie but i do think Cap marvel was a useless addition to phase 3 specially that freaking late into the saga. She honestly contributed nothing other than destroying the ship in Endgame which thor or angry hulk could've done. She feels like a character that was added bcus MCU saw how much of a success Wonder Woman had.

She was rushed. Wish they would have introduced her years ago. Around when they were introducing the og squad

All three of the Marvels are my favorite characters in the MCU along with Frank Castle.

While Captain Marvel movie is average. Her words got twisted to fit the Anti-woke Grifter's narrative. For Example

"I don’t need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work about A Wrinkle In Time" says Brie Larson. "It wasn’t made for him! I want to know what it meant to women of color, biracial women, to teen women of color."

This is in regard to how they need more diversity in critics pool.

[https://youtu.be/wpVKBAT7MJ4](https://youtu.be/wpVKBAT7MJ4)

Then people started spreading rumors on how her co-star hates her. Twisting where she joke in an interview that Carol can beat Thor.

I like brie Larson as an actress and she is a good cap marvel, but the marvels just was too meh for me to recommend. I was stoned though, and was cringing into a black hole during the singing planet so that could be part of it.

1: Virginity Enterprises were desperate to prove Brie and Carol are some “woke feminist agenda against men”

2: Civil War 2 (comic) was so bad it led to revisionism about Carrol in the comics leading to people genuinely acting like she was never a popular character, some acting like she was always hated when it was solely that awful story

3: Media illiteracy, people couldn’t get over the fact she spent the movie with memory loss and still has glimpses of her true self, let alone how she’s much less stoic after remembering, so many acted like she was a Mary Sue despite fighting with her powers restrained and the fact she’s a worser fighter than Yon was, even her final confrontation with him emphasises this as she knew she can’t beat him in hand to hand and more importantly didn’t need to prove herself to him

Do I think things could’ve been done better? Of course but her solo film is as inoffensive as it gets for origin films and her role in Endgame was solid

Misogyny

Mainly

Mainly because people were expecting the first female MCU led film to be a Black WIdow movie, and it would have made way MORE sense while she was still alive. Carol should have been introduced post Thanos MCU.

She's one of my favorite superheroes! I absolutely love the "I'm only human" scene in Captain Marvel that shows all the times from childhood on where she kept getting back up physically and mentally despite difficult circumstances.

I feel like in my family that im the only one that loved her

She talked about DEI and losers lost their mind and got mad at her.

She had some of the most inoffensive films in the MCU, but incels would rather they make a mediocre film about a man than an average to above average film about a woman. Not saying her films were perfect, but they were enjoyable in their own right, especially compared to some of the big budget slop that gets released now

I'm guessing she got hate because Brie Larson got hate, that is until she didn't when she hosted for Jimmy Kimmel

In the context of the MCU and when her first movie came out, the character was sort shoehorned into the ongoing story.

Add on top of that the fact that the movie itself was incredibly mid, Brie Larson is one of those actors you either love or hate to begin with and her performance in the first movie was not that great, and that the entire character coming into the overall story of the mcu when she did was very much a deus ex machina.

Had Captain Marvel released in Phase 2, and mentioned briefly to just be out in the universe doing hero stuff during one of the guardians movies then I think people would’ve been more accepting of the role she played in the plot because it wouldn’t seem like she was forced into the story to help save the day in the final act. It’s just kinda poor writing to have your most powerful character only show up (after never even being mentioned before in the rest of the story) in the last 30 minutes of the play to save everyone.

How about this…

Some people like her, some people don’t like her, then some people have no opinion.

If you like her great. If you don’t, that’s OK too. If you have no opinion, well get lost because you’re not bringing anything to the conversation. I kid. ;)

Just like what you like, and if someone doesn’t like it, who cares.

I know this is not a comment on it so much comment or not. Just the opposite. This is a comment on the comment commentary about the topic on the subject. 🥸

Her movie was bland and poorly written imo. Her acting was bland too. Like the director told her not to show emotion.

Idk about all the weird incel shit. I try not to pay attention to that stuff.

I don't hate her character, jus5 found her to be Meh most of the time

For me, Carol has no charisma as a character, and it comes off as a Mary Sue of sorts. She has no weaknesses. The plot of the first movie is literally her finding out that, unlike everyone made her believe, she IS invincible.

I also believe Brie demeanor in the real world contributed to the bad rep the movie got; countless times she appeared to be quite arrogant (including a very awkward moment with Chris Hemsworth in an interview), unlike her peers.

Now, are incels a thing? Of course. But many times we give them way more credit than they deserve; this movie made over 1 billion dollars, more than the entire DCEU Snyder tried to create. At the end of the day, many times people accuse others of being incels for disliking something. That’s apparently easier than reasoning. The movie is okay, but hardly anything more than this. It is quite forgettable.

She’s great in the Avengers movies and I actually like Captain Marvel, but the Marvels was trash outside the post credit scene

She is kinda cool. I think her lukewarm reception stems from a few things.

First, her place in the MCU felt a little unearned. She showed up in the 11th hour and felt shoehorned into the Infinity Saga story.

Second, she was pushed to be a frontrunner character, but lacked the likability and charisma that a lot of the other lead characters have.

Lastly, the fact that she got a solo movie (at the 11th hour) before Black Widow is kinda BS. Natasha earned her place in the MCU without a solo movie, then Captain Marvel just kinda rolls up late and steals her thunder. Doing something like that doesn’t make her likable.

A lot of people point fingers at the misogynists, and they definitely had a part to play, but I don’t think they have a big enough influence to have a real effect on Captain Marvel’s lukewarm reception. Look at how much people love Natasha and Yelena. Or how about Wanda, Mantis, Gamora and Nebula. Hell, people seem to even like Ms. Marvel more. The problem is not that Captain Marvel is a woman and fans are misogynistic, it’s that her character is just kind of self absorbed and not much of a team player. That makes her unlikable to most people.

If you’re not weird it’s mostly because of bad writing and how boring she can be 90% of the time (i’m a captain marvel defender btw)

She's lame as fuck in Endgame. I don't know if I've ever seen a more blatant "we need this character to go away until the plot requires her" in any other movie. She's so hamfisted into the movie that she makes it worse for being in it.

Her contribution to the movie are:
- Saving Tony and Nebula then fucking off until the climax.
- Inexplicably flying through the battle with the Infinity Gauntlet instead of above it.
- The most pandering, contrived, and unearned "girl power" scene in cinematic history.
- Standing in the background of Tony's funeral.

I'm sorry, but this character is just trash and should not have been part of the Infinity Saga. She very much just feels like she's there because Marvel was desperate to have their Wonder Woman.

Idk about Captain Marvel, I mean I wish we could see more of her character… but with Brie Larson, I understand the hate. There are quite a few interviews I’ve watched where’s she’s either pushy about an opinion or reaction to a joke or she’s rude to interviewers or to men as a whole. I understand her character is a powerful woman, but that shouldn’t mean that men are subordinate and deserve to be put down for it, you know? Just personal preference, I’m not a fan of her as an actress, but I enjoy her portrayal of the character.

I don’t like her character that much, just being honest. It’s not a female thing. I can’t exactly pin point why if it’s the character or the actress. But I find her kind of aloof and boring. Also her powers are bland. So she shoots light beams out of her hands and flies. That’s kinda stale. I am sorry no offense, but she never really drew me to watch her movies. This is so unlike Wanda, or Thor, or Shang Chi, or Iron Man, or Captain America, or even Shuri as black panther. These characters I still found interesting with rich back stories. I find even the Iron Heart story with Mephisto tie in more interesting. So before you brand me as anti female, it’s nothing to do with men or women. It’s just that she is boring. Also, I didn’t like how she rubbed off the other marvel co stars the wrong way in a couple of interviews. She doesn’t have good chemistry with the characters I care about. I do like the young Pakistani girl Ms Marvel though.

She is cool, Brie Larson does a great job. She's also absolutely gorgeous!

Wrong actress: Katee Sackhoff was a favorite, still my preference TBH.

Wrong time: should have been made and released earlier.

Okay story. The plot was good, but when it took place didn't work well. Too much retcon.


I enjoyed the movies. But I think a "Captain (or Ms) Marvel of S.H.E.I.D." show introducing the character, with preferably Katee Sackhoff, or alternatively Kristin Bell would have been a better start and casting for the character.

I think she's good in Endgame, although like others have said no one was as attached to her since she was a late addition to the story.

The main issue was her solo movie didn't stand out amongst the other marvel films, especially at a point where the fans were getting a lot of great MCU content. It's not bad by any means but it isn't Winter Soldier writing, for example.

For me it was her attitude around press tour. She came off as arrogant. In all fairness the character in the comics was pretty arrogant so maybe she was channeling that.

I never had anything against Brie, but I just think it was a miscast. I think she was a little too young looking for the role. I had Kathryn Winnick as my personal choice and I couldn’t really get past that.

If you want a genuine answer, it’s because it wasn’t Endgame that made people dislike her. If I recall correctly, those scenes were shot first before her movie. I think it was just the vibe she gave off in her own movie, on top of being an eleventh hour addition that soured people on her.

Additionally, I don’t feel like the MCU characterized Carol nearly as well as it could have, though that might be my comics bias speaking. Really, she just came in at the wrong time and didn’t click with a lot of people. It happens. Personally I think pairing her with Rhodey like in the comics might mellow the character out and bring people around to liking her, but Marvel seems to hate War Machine too much for that. A shame really, their comics dynamic is really cool.

Her character was rushed. Her movie wasn't very good. And honestly, she was coming off as VERY unlikable in interviews to most people.

Improperly introduced

Personally. I guess I didn’t love how they just kinda we’re like “she’s been in space the whole time”. I also don’t love how she just bossed around Thanos. Idc if she actually is more powerful, I just think villains should be stronger or else the supers just feel too op and having a hill to climb is good for viewers.

This comment section is way too extreme on both ends……

I always liked captain marvel \*shrug\*

Captain Marvel herself is cool. Her MCU first action was meh.

Personally I found her portrayal just a bit too wooden and uninteresting. Not unwatchable, but it didn't draw me in.

Captain Marvel was good. In Endgame, her few minutes were good. It was all her negative interactions with her co-stars and her negative attitude and comments about The Marvels flop, that made everyone hate her. She made a bunch of excuses and literally blamed the viewers/fans.

I was so hyped for this movie and it just felt like such a let down in so many ways.

I’m not really a fan of Brie Larson anyway (though I will say that she 100% did not deserve the hate, she’s just not for me) but I felt like she played Cpt Marvel so flat. I just wasn’t invested.

The timing of her entry like many have said was just terrible. This overpowered brand new hero with a stark-like attitude, when we had seen how much Tony has grown, just stuck out like a sore thumb to me. Everyone else had their own journeys and were coming together for the big finale and she shows up and it just felt like she took a big ole shite on everything the other heroes went through. Like why did we do all this if super danvers was here all long to save the day? (Which she didn’t even do).

Also, like others have said, I think it was a race to get a female led movie out (even though we all wanted Black Widow. We were robbed of a BW & HE movie imo. Hello Budapest?!!) and then you have Gal Gadot who can’t act at all but she had her little skirt and sexy accent so the incels were totally ok with that, and didn’t Capt Kirk end up saving the day anyways? I forget, I fell asleep multiple times and haven’t rewatched.

I am a woman myself and I was so excited to see a female led movie but this dropped the ball so badly imo. I’ve see every marvel movie at least 5 times but have yet to watch hers again :(

Just give me a kickarse Rogue please. She’s always been my fave and I need her to show up and hand it to Danvers 😆

She needs some actual character progression

For me, MCU Carol just lacks this certain pizazz I was hoping for, that's all. Disregarding all the over the top reactionaries, there were a number of people online I saw that had this same sentiment too. Not the worst, but certainly not as good as she could've been either.

My favorite depiction of her is in the Midnight Suns game where she's still plenty confident but a bit more charismatic and the perfect midpoint between Cap's larger-than-life heroism and Tony's ego-that-he-could-back-up.

Because she’s actually not cool and kinda annoying. She’s smug and not fun. Plus, during the whole Thanos fight she was no where to be found and could have ended the whole thing but didn’t. Taking the movie apart, it’s clear she was shoehorned in.

Her haircut in Endgame did no favors. The “Mohawk” look was immensely better.

Gonna get a lot of hate for this but a lot of the MCU really sucks at writing female characters. Their entire personality starts to revolve around being female in sort of a pandering/condescending way.

Not that woke is bad I just don't want to watch a social commentary disguised as a super hero movie and I think it's a disservice that female actors are now being associated with that.

Imagine how annoying it would be if they wrote male characters the same way they wrote female characters. You'd constantly get a guy that'd be trying to subvert expectations and their gender would be the focal point of way too many scenes.

I just want enjoyable female characters again.

I don’t hate her but she is just not an interesting character to me .

Marvel seemed like they were trying to make her a the next huge thing and the general audience never ended up liking her unlike Black Widow or scarlet witch. It also seemed like after The Marvels flopped they finally realize this character isn’t going to work. To me I think her character should just be written off screen. The Marvels I think ended her character in a decent way. But I bet she shows up in Secret Wars and then they’ll recast Brie moving forward. I also think Brie came into this thinking she’d be the next RDJ and she’d have countless of fans and movies she’d star in. However that’s ended up being the complete opposite for her.

Both of her movies just aren’t great. The first Captain Marvel was a fine enough film, but the fact it was between infinity war and endgame made it feel like a way worse movie. And enough has been said about The Marvels. Brie Larson also isn’t as charismatic as other actresses like Scarlett Johansson. Her character was also way too powerful. In endgame she had Thanos with all 6 infinity stones struggling to hold her off. This made her feel like a cheap way to get the rest of the characters out of a bind.

Ignore all the incel vs gender deflection arguments - they’re mostly hot air and don’t really address the main issue which is her character development.

As a character she goes through almost no struggle or “hero’s journey”. As conventional as that path is, the absence of something better is even worse. Because of the amnesia angle, they relegated almost all of her developmental growth to shallow and mostly useless flashback montages.

Many focus on the gender identity focus of her character but I think the main issue is that the influence of people in her life prior to the amnesia were broken down to male vs female and every male other than Fury and Coulson were relegated as obstacles.

Even her father in a protective moment in the go kart race was depicted as someone keeping her from reaching her potential. Her crash is her own fault despite ignoring her father’s direction and all we take away from it is that he shouldn’t have tried to protect her from that mistake. It is really quite off putting and makes her a bit unlikeable even as a child.

Fury and Coulson were already well established and well loved so neither could be messed with that hard but even their involvement was surface level at best. The reason for Fury’s eyepatch was relegated to a joke as well when it should’ve been a more poignant lesson about trust given what happened in Winter Soldier. Completely fumbled the very obvious setup of shape changing Skrulls involved.

And finally they absolutely bungled the Supreme Intelligence and its lore and presence in the Kree society. The first movie laid a little bit of setup for future growth and then they threw it all away in another flashback montage sequence in The Marvels in favor of a nonsensical musical planet sequence. Maybe one of the worst fumbles in the MCU.

So after two full movies and even an appearance in Endgame, the entire character of Capt Marvel has been boiled down to “what do I need to punch?” and “people need me”. There’s nothing really to root for and there’s almost nothing relatable about the character. It’s been all tell and very little show.

Shes just bland and mean really. Honestly I prefer if they focused more on she hulk.