A theory I have since NWH about how Marvel Studios can continue the Green Goblin.
Something I found interesting about No Way Home is how they portrayed the Green Goblin. In this version, it seems Marvel has abandoned the idea that the Goblin is merely a "personality" within Norman Osborn. Norman never calls him his alter ego, but rather "another guy," as if he were a completely different entity. Even in the alley scene, the Goblin humiliates him and says, "We have a new world to conquer," implying that he has his own consciousness and knows more than Norman realizes, even about the multiverse.
It seems Marvel Studios is suggesting that the Green Goblin could be an entity outside of Norman, like a demon or a spirit similar to Dormammu, Mephisto, etc. This isn't entirely new, as it was an old theory during the Raimi era, created especially when the Goblin appeared to Harry despite Norman having been dead for years. And something similar happened in the comics: during the Nick Spencer arc, the Sin-Eater attacked Norman, "purifying" him of his sins, including the Green Goblin. After that, in the Zeb Wells arc, Norman's "sins" were like a kind of "demon" that, thanks to Kraven and a ritual, was able to possess people like Peter and Norman himself. At the end of the arc, these sins are destroyed, although in the current Lowe arc, there are indications that this wasn't quite the case, since Norman still hears the Green Goblin's voice.
But how can this fit with the MCU? There have already been strong rumors (both from DanielRPK and The Cosmic Circus) that Marvel plans to introduce its own Norman Osborn in the near future, a rumor that only grows stronger given the success of Colman Domingo's animated version. But will we simply forget that Peter already faced a Goblin? No. My theory is that in NWH Peter learned to hate the Green Goblin, not Norman Osborn. The Goblin himself openly called him a failure in every sense of the word, while Dafoe's Norman was a nobody without the Green Goblin, as he himself said. So the Marvel Studios version would be very similar to Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man (and of course, they were created by the same company). A Norman Osborn who, rather than a supervillain, would be a businessman who is quickly making his way in the industry, rubbing shoulders with powerful figures and also with heroes, hiding his true colors and his hunger for power and respect. But over time, he will stop seeking that power in heroes other than himself and will begin to seek power for himself, thus combining magic with science and obtaining the Green Goblin serum. Being a kind of demon, the Green Goblin would still retain the memories of the fight in No Way Home and of who Spider-Man really is. Only, unlike Dafoe, with whom he couldn't merge due to his kindness, the MCU's Norman would achieve a complete fusion, making the Goblin and Norman one and the same. This could even translate to his design, no longer as a man in armor but perhaps as the Ultimate Green Goblin, a physical transformation that would make him more similar to the classic look.
Thus, Marvel could maintain some connection to No Way Home (the Goblin remembering May's death, for example), but at the same time present a new, more dangerous and distinct Green Goblin, where there is no longer a separation between man and monster, but rather a single, completely corrupted mind.
It seems Marvel Studios is suggesting that the Green Goblin could be an entity outside of Norman, like a demon or a spirit similar to Dormammu, Mephisto, etc. This isn't entirely new, as it was an old theory during the Raimi era, created especially when the Goblin appeared to Harry despite Norman having been dead for years. And something similar happened in the comics: during the Nick Spencer arc, the Sin-Eater attacked Norman, "purifying" him of his sins, including the Green Goblin. After that, in the Zeb Wells arc, Norman's "sins" were like a kind of "demon" that, thanks to Kraven and a ritual, was able to possess people like Peter and Norman himself. At the end of the arc, these sins are destroyed, although in the current Lowe arc, there are indications that this wasn't quite the case, since Norman still hears the Green Goblin's voice.
But how can this fit with the MCU? There have already been strong rumors (both from DanielRPK and The Cosmic Circus) that Marvel plans to introduce its own Norman Osborn in the near future, a rumor that only grows stronger given the success of Colman Domingo's animated version. But will we simply forget that Peter already faced a Goblin? No. My theory is that in NWH Peter learned to hate the Green Goblin, not Norman Osborn. The Goblin himself openly called him a failure in every sense of the word, while Dafoe's Norman was a nobody without the Green Goblin, as he himself said. So the Marvel Studios version would be very similar to Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man (and of course, they were created by the same company). A Norman Osborn who, rather than a supervillain, would be a businessman who is quickly making his way in the industry, rubbing shoulders with powerful figures and also with heroes, hiding his true colors and his hunger for power and respect. But over time, he will stop seeking that power in heroes other than himself and will begin to seek power for himself, thus combining magic with science and obtaining the Green Goblin serum. Being a kind of demon, the Green Goblin would still retain the memories of the fight in No Way Home and of who Spider-Man really is. Only, unlike Dafoe, with whom he couldn't merge due to his kindness, the MCU's Norman would achieve a complete fusion, making the Goblin and Norman one and the same. This could even translate to his design, no longer as a man in armor but perhaps as the Ultimate Green Goblin, a physical transformation that would make him more similar to the classic look.
Thus, Marvel could maintain some connection to No Way Home (the Goblin remembering May's death, for example), but at the same time present a new, more dangerous and distinct Green Goblin, where there is no longer a separation between man and monster, but rather a single, completely corrupted mind.
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You know the joke about how Fantastic Four got strip-mined for parts (Black Panther and Namor in Black Panther, Doom in Avengers, Skrulls in Captain Marvel/Spider-Man?)
I want that to happen to Spider-Man. His supporting cast and rogue gallery is too good to be locked up but Sony thinks otherwise.
We'll just have to see how they'd handle it, because there are 60 years of stories in the 616 and multiple adaptations to make a totally different version.
Because even if it's just an alternate personality, it couldn't be cured with just an injection.
They should absolutely go with that storyline, itd be so hardcore. Probably don't kill Ned... or do, so Peter goes to Maphisto to bring him back? Oh, that could work.
Mainly because Sony already tried it on its own and it didn't turn out well at all.
Although making him an ally of Norman (as planned in Spectacular) is a possibility.
I also doubt they'll use Dafoe's mask because it would still be linked to the Tobey saga... which I doubt Marvel is looking for for Holland.