'It's Good to Put Her Down and Then I Miss Her and I Want Her Back' — MCU Star Elizabeth Olsen Says She'd Jump at the Chance to Play Scarlet Witch Again
Kinda unrelated Why do actors act like being in a marvel project is bad I get being infont of a green screen all day is boring and might not be the actor taste but being in one of the biggest franchise of all time having life time popularity toys fans is enough of a up side if the character is received well people love it its one of pop culture icon and top tier marvel character thats peak you can always go michael b jordon do and make a name for yourself in another way more cinematic movie post your marvel role if your aren't happy with it
ImDero2025-10-23 16:47
Some people like being rich *and* fulfilled.
ROBtimusPrime19952025-10-23 16:52
Oh no, an actress wants to act over the top for fun while hanging out with other actors/directors they enjoy working with & get paid an exorbitant amount of money for it.
Oh, the humanity.
Edit: Lmao, not you editing your comment, changing it, and playing victim when you originally were quite mean before.
WillingnessMinimum352025-10-23 16:57
Did you read what I said like did you read the comments past the first line I literally said being in marvel movie is one of the best thing for a actor career and not a embarrassment are you using a different English than im? You typed a whole essay and didn't even read my comment
Spicy_Weissy2025-10-23 17:04
Plus it's probably a lot of people she's probably familiar working with. Sure, Marvel isn't high art, but behind the scenes it always seems like they're a lot of fun and SW is a role she can have for decades. For women in Hollywood that's not a bad thing.
WillingnessMinimum352025-10-23 17:07
"Editing the comments" the only edit I made was that michael b jordan line
BlueKante2025-10-23 17:03
Would you act in a franchise you dont like if you made enough money.
WillingnessMinimum352025-10-23 17:06
Even if I don't like the franchise I could easily milk the role for money and after being rich enough start acting and making movies I want
BlueKante2025-10-23 17:14
She already did the first part. Elizabeth Olsen is very very rich herself and her sisters have a combined net worth of over one billion. She never has to work a day in her life again.
Lewcaster2025-10-23 17:06
They usually make enough money, and then they seek fulfillment.
Then they start spending too much money, and they get back to well-paid but poorly-written projects lmao. Look at Al Pacino, dude blew all his money and started doing very questionable projects just to get some cash.
Butwhatif772025-10-23 17:15
Part of the reason a number of actors don't want to do Marvel projects is because of the fanbase. This can be true of any fandom really, but especially in a franchise like the MCU were things can deviate from the source material the actors often get the blame in ways that are out of their control. There are actors who just don't want to have to deal with people tweeting or DMing them horrible things because of a project that was not well received by the fanbase.
Social media has really fucked up how audiences interact with media. Before an actor who was in a film that was not like just had to deal with critics in the paper or an online article, but now it gets thrown in their faces constantly in the worst ways.
elpajaroquemamais2025-10-23 17:05
Doubt it
TypeExpert2025-10-23 17:24
Her last name, alone, guarantees that she'll never be "low on cash."
fabriziofibrazio2025-10-23 18:47
I've seen billionaires burn generational wealth to the ground
weehawkenabstract2025-10-23 16:44
free wanda
solehan5116012025-10-23 20:25
The statement Elizabeth has made is consistent with what the actor has said for the past three years. I hope people do not spread the misinformation and lies after this.
I truly wish Scarlet Witch to reappear as a genuine hero who saves people and other heroes in dire need. And ultimately it is what the character truly is.
Wanda is unfortunately trapped in the same negative stereotypes that Superman once held. Except those fans who cried about people not understanding Superman are silent on Wanda, in fact many including this sub just believe that's who Wanda is always. It was a false revisionist view that people have spread to rationalize the awful writings.
It's time to break the curses.
ScuzzBuckster2025-10-23 22:27
I think the problem is some of Wanda's most iconic stories in the comics do involve her going a bit nuts and doing some questionable things. And she did start as a villain.
The problem is that Wanda has been around in comics since 1964, she has hundreds of appearances across the history of comics and like you said, the vast majority of that time she has been a *hero*. An avenger, an x-man, and a defender. MCU really hasnt given us hardly any Wanda being a hero. I hope with them bringing in Billy and Tommy, they can bring back Wanda and she can be her heroic self.
VaishakhD2025-10-23 16:59
She misses the big paydays I guess. I honestly want the phase 4 characters like shang chi, Bishop etc to get more screen time. I couldn’t care less for more Wanda. At this point we know screen time is limited because the marvel roster is so huge. Im ok with them retiring characters which are presumed dead or have some conclusion to their story.
Spicy_Weissy2025-10-23 17:04
Oh no. Job security in an uncertain future.
VaishakhD2025-10-23 17:25
let other characters get their time to shine and not just the favorites hogging all the screen time.
Spicy_Weissy2025-10-23 17:26
How much screentime do you think she's getting? Recognizable characters is how you get the audience into these things without having to do the homework.
VaishakhD2025-10-23 17:28
She already has had her own show, was the big bad in a billion dollar movie and was in 3 avenger movies and civil war. I think she’s doing ok with screen time. Now where is shang chi, moon knight, Bishop etc?
Spicy_Weissy2025-10-23 17:31
Why are you so wounded when Olsen is simply asked a question and she answers it?
VaishakhD2025-10-23 17:33
Im not even targeting her lol, i want other characters to get more screen time, which they are clearly aren’t. I don’t give a fuck what she says. Ill be writing the same thing if Rdj was coming back as iron man
Spicy_Weissy2025-10-23 17:35
Then what are you downvoting me for? Do you think internet points mean anything?
VaishakhD2025-10-23 17:38
I mean I clearly don’t agree with you, should I upvote you?
Spicy_Weissy2025-10-23 17:45
It's not a disagreement button. It literally says that in the rules bar. Nobody reads anymore, fuck.
Thattheheck2025-10-23 17:38
Kate Bishop isn’t as interesting as a character as Wanda. We’ve seen most of Kate’s abilities in the MCU in Hawkeye. Your point would make sense if it was a completely new concept, but it’s not.
VaishakhD2025-10-23 17:41
Well I found her pretty interesting in her first outing, maybe her other appearances may flesh her out even more. Oh wait, we haven’t got any.
Thattheheck2025-10-23 17:53
Even if you flesh her out like Yelena for example, they still hold core concepts as other characters we’ve seen before. What the MCU needs is something completely different. The same type of risk as when they published GOTG. Right now they’re playing too safe.
VaishakhD2025-10-23 17:58
Moon knight was that, though execution wasn’t perfect. Same with Agatha show. On the movie side I thought thunderbolts was a wonderful subversion. We got all the rejects together and the finale wasn’t even a blue laser up the sky or shooting bunch of empty husks. I love that shit.
Thattheheck2025-10-23 22:07
Not a show obviously, not many people watch these marvel shows, especially people who aren’t moderate fans. An actual film. Thunderbolts has the same framing as GOTG (a band of intergalactic criminals). What we need is a completely new concept entirely. Which should began in 2020, but the MCU has been wasting time, and now we have an avengers film next year.
Adorable_Ad_34782025-10-23 17:02
It should be studied how badly Marvel Studios fumbled Wanda.
Doctor Strange 2 shouldn't have had her as a one-off villain. Do a series followup to Wandavision that is all about Wanda's turn to villainy first.
Why the fuck did we get Ironheart or Echo instead of an evil Wanda solo show after Wandavision?
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-10-23 17:13
Marvel has fumbled a lot of characters.
Wanda, hulk, strange, Sam, Sharon, captain marvel, Hank and Janet, Thor, Jane foster, nick fury, taskmaster, mordo, Rhodes, Yellowjacket. There’s a lot.
Maatjuhhh2025-10-23 17:15
Secret Invasion could easily have remedied a lot of those by revealing them as Skrulls.
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-10-23 17:17
Eh I don’t think secret invasion could work at all. You telling me a character I love thru the years turned out to be a fake? I don’t know why people don’t understand that aspect. Seriously we saw how fans reacted that Rhodes is supposedly a skrull since civil war. Never gonna work with no backlash
CanOfPenisJuice2025-10-23 17:24
What if it was all a dreeeaam
PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-10-23 17:39
What if your dream was all of the cans were made by your peninjusice except it’s not a dream
Adorable_Ad_34782025-10-23 17:30
In the comics, the only 2 "big name" Skrull reveals were Jessica Drew and Hank Pym. But the same writer (Bendis) already planted the seeds for years.
In the MCU it could have worked if Phase 4 had a few instances of characters acting off only to reveal they're Skrulls in Phase 5.
An example of possible setups:
She-Hulk's DD in the yellow outfit? Have a post-credit scene with him talking to a shadowy figure and giving them She-Hulk's DNA.
Shang Chi's Karaoke scene? After the singing, have Wong report to a shadowy figure and tell them they have located the 10 Rings.
FATWS scene with Sharon? Have her report to a shadowy figure that the SuperSoldier serum is ready to be shipped.
Small setups like those, none of them showing a Skrull transformation, but hinting at something big. Instead of Gravik, a named character should have been the Skrull leader.
Maybe Selvig? He's from Phase 1 and the actor is one of the best dramatic actors out there, him as the Skrull Emperor would have been peak.
And ideally, Val's black ops team pre-Thunderbolts (Yelena, Taskmaster, Ghost, Walker) should have been the squad that is tasked with executing the Skrulls, both good and bad Skrulls.
Exzqairi2025-10-23 18:02
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PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-10-23 18:30
Most things are fantasy writing that’s turns out to be good
crispyg2025-10-23 19:01
Secret Invasion needed to be a phase or an entire saga
Maatjuhhh2025-10-23 21:27
An entire saga in hiding would be the ultimate conspiracy theory. Then we would guess whether Wanda was a skrull (because from her being good to a villain) or Sharon for the same reasons. Then ir would reveal that Sharon was a Skrull but Wanda wasn’t, thus making it a true betrayal.
crispyg2025-10-26 01:15
Totally, or imagine a Steve Rogers in the final three movies running and being elected president while all the other Avengers very well know Cap is dead/retired.
OR an Avengers movie where we must rely on the underground folks like Moon Knight, Blade, Elsa Bloodstone to save the Avengers as Skrulls masquerade as them. You could do that exact plot with the Defenders or a Young Avengers (with Kate Bishop Hawkeye, Ms Marvel, Patriot, Ava Ayala White Tiger, Stature, Wiccan, Speed, and Viv Vision)
THAT is when these teamups are best when are heroes are called upon and at a disadvantage (Thunderbolts, OG Avengers, Endgame) as opposed to when they are a super established entity. THEN we start to treat Kang/Doom/the Beyonder as the big bad for the next phase (even if I prefer the Doom and Kang that are always a constant threat)
Ganrokh2025-10-23 18:50
For all of Love & Thunder's flaws, I was quite satisfied with Thor and Jane's story by the end of it. The rest of those characters are fair game, though.
DynastyZealot2025-10-23 19:11
Klaw belongs at the top of that list
Cultural_Comfort58942025-10-23 19:28
They didn’t fumble Wanda.
Multiverse Of Madness was great on many levels. I get that many people don’t get it. Many people find Godfather 1 & 2 to be lacking.
Any and all characters can reappear again in ways that make sense, especially Wanda since she is magical and alters reality and no body in fiction equals no death (which has parallels to reality)
gavin418012025-10-23 20:45
I also like Multiverse of Madness, but it’s wild to compare it to either Godfather movie.
marsalien42025-10-23 20:50
I believe they were just saying that even nearly unanimously agreed upon masterpieces still have people who dislike them.
gavin418012025-10-23 20:54
I totally get that, I just it was a weird comparison. Also the point that people don’t get Multiverse of Madness if they didn’t like it as much was bit off. I just think it’s a pretty good Marvel movie, but it’s not some major achievement, I think it’s a little over hated, but it does have some pretty apparent issues.
marsalien42025-10-23 20:55
For sure, I disagree with the *don't get it* talk too I was just pointing out what I thought they meant there!
Cultural_Comfort58942025-10-23 21:04
You haven’t noticed be it ourselves or engaging someone else that the reason something wasn’t liked is because they/we missed an important point?
Hollywood leans towards simple films, remakes and sequels because people in general don’t GET things unless it’s simple, stereotypical and tropes.
It’s not a knock on anyone or their intelligence.
There are somethings I just don’t get or i do get and I get that other people like it and it could be very good films/music/etc. it just doesn’t appeal to me.
marsalien42025-10-24 02:28
It's, imo, not great to default to "you didn't get it" when someone doesn't like something. You can understand and dislike something. Does it sometimes mean someone didn't get it? Yes. But it's pretentious to equate disliking a thing to a lack of understanding.
ObviousAnswerGuy2025-10-25 08:31
it *insists* upon itself
Goaliedude39192025-10-23 23:44
I think their biggest fumble, albeit in a different way, is Shang-Chi. The fact that it's taking so long to see more of their most popular post-Endgame character is criminal.
v_SuckItTrebek2025-10-23 17:22
I have to admit Doctor Strange 2 was the only movie that made me mad with the general direction of the plot/characters. And then poof, no more Wanda to date for the MCU.
OneRefrigerator68932025-10-23 17:30
Surely they could have had her as a massive multi movie villain right? I haven’t read the comics but she’s a reality bending which. That seems like a bigger threat than thanos and would have been sick to see unfold on screen after the evens of wandavision. I may be bias cause she’s my fav but sounds rad lol
Adorable_Ad_34782025-10-23 17:38
Phase 5's ender should have been Avengers: Disassembled.
Wanda vs. everyone. Many old heroes die (bye bye Hawkeye, Shuri, and Ant-Man), and some are forever altered (bye bye Prof Hulk, hello World Breaker Hulk, hello young Hank Pym and Janet, hello King T'Challa II).
And from the ashes, New Avengers and Young Avengers rise for Phase 6. Wanda's chaos magic was the perfect recipe to reverse some bad decisions without using the Multiversal angle.
We don't need Secret Wars to get an adult T'Challa II or young Hank and Janet, just have Wanda's chaos magic alter reality. It's that easy.
romafa2025-10-23 18:08
Was there even a team to disassemble at the end of phase 5?
OneRefrigerator68932025-10-23 21:53
‘Wanda VS Everyone’ This sounds so fkn dope lol and if they kept the Loki story how they did it, they could use that to rewind or something to bring characters back post Wanda.
I mean seeing as Thanos could hardly be beaten by pretty much everyone in endgame, but Wanda almost tore him to shreds in less than a minute, seems like it shoulda been a no brainer lol
dimesniffer2025-10-23 17:40
Fumbled how? She is one of the most fleshed out characters in the whole universe. It’s the MCU not WCU
Cultural_Comfort58942025-10-23 19:30
Facts.
She had a great arc that was true to the tragic character
I guess they want and they lived happily ever after Wanda (🧙which 👀 isn’t a thing as far as I know)
Good_old_Marshmallow2025-10-23 19:18
I think they also could’ve built her up more as an anti hero slowly.
In civil war, her collateral damage was ridiculously contained compared to the rest of the avengers and so explainable that it wasn’t really her fault. Imo you could’ve had something like Crossbones actually got the better of cap somehow and was going to kill him and she psychically gets in his head to kill him and byproduct kills the whole city of civilians as well, or something to really justify the accords and give the civil war some actual driving stakes.
Then in Infinity war, have her like straight up refuse to kill vision and be like hey fyi I’m scarlet witch you all can’t make me. Then the rest can still unfold as it happened.
Then Wanda vision, then yeah give her one more film where we see her turn to the darkhold to save the day and descend a bit deeper into madness, Shang Chi and Young Hawkeye both really needed follow up films so maybe a team up with one of them? Maybe against that villain from doctor strange one who never got a follow up?
Cultural_Comfort58942025-10-23 19:34
They had a 9 episode show that laid out how she was always and destined to be The Scarlet Witch and how the Darkhold corrupts.
“Shouldn’t have to watch a show to understand a movie “
🙄 That’s a fact that was handled well in the film. For some reason people don’t want to accept it even though it was clearly established and reaffirmed.
Good_old_Marshmallow2025-10-23 19:36
I mean you can put it in quotations I don’t see how that’s untrue.
This happened with the Star Wars prequels too. Paywalling a tv show and expecting movie goers to pre-viewing like homework before watching is ridiculous and of course is going to break up the flow of the viewing experience
Cultural_Comfort58942025-10-23 19:54
I immediately followed with that’s a fact
Star Wars is an excellent example. I really don’t know any of its lore outside of the main movies and now shows.
And I understand it has tons of lore that was also better than what’s been put on screen.
Added:
Definitely the shows not being easy to view are a down side.
Good_old_Marshmallow2025-10-23 19:55
Oh sorry I totally misread your comment I’m sorry, yes I completely agree in that case
Stingerbrg2025-10-25 05:13
That didn't happen with the Prequels. There was no missed context you had to watch a show for. The only show that even existed at the time was short enough that Cartoon Network aired it between full episodes of their regular programming. People loved it, but it was just stylish marketing. The Clone Wars show that people say improved the Prequels wasn't made until several years later and it re-contextualized the movies.
Adorable_Ad_34782025-10-23 22:19
She was corrupted off-screen. That's the main complaint. We never saw her descend into villainy.
By the end of Wandavision she wasn't evil. Then in DS2 she's full evil. It didn't feel earned.
Cultural_Comfort58942025-10-23 22:28
The last scene of Wandavision was she was corrupted. It was an after credits shot so maybe some people missed it. The MCU was famous for after credits at that point so that choice was understandable, still shocking and cool.
Another thing that the MCU did was make it clear that significant events happen off screen too.
Trying to explain everything can make a story horrible, which is why the ongoing MCU is cool.
I enjoy books, tv, films that start in the middle of some action and don’t explain everything it makes them more real to me.
We see friends that we use to hang with everyday years later have an adventure maybe see significant differences with them but it doesn’t have to be explained. We understand things happen.
I GET YOUR POINT AND SEE HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT PEOPLES ENJOYMENT
Adorable_Ad_34782025-10-23 22:42
I mean, it's kind of obvious that Marvel Studios will go with the Sheriff Strange as Doom's right hand from Secret Wars.
Which means Dr Strange will be evil. DS2 ends with DS with a 3rd eye going with Clea to do some offscreen stuff.
Tust me, if next time we see DS he's already full-evil, audiences WILL hate it even if DS2 hinted at it.
Cultural_Comfort58942025-10-23 22:52
The way I see it even with the 3rd eye being evidence that he’s corrupted is that he’s the one and only incorruptible Strange
It will be interesting to see how it plays out
You could be right 🤔
Added:
This just occurred to me. With the elimination of all Darkhold’s he shouldn’t be corrupted.
ChemicalExperiment2025-10-23 20:18
I think the problem was that Wanda's best stuff happened so close together that they didn't have time to reverse course with her death after realizing she was popular. Remember that before Infinity War released, which was when all planning for Phase 4 was set in stone, Wanda wasn't really a big deal with fans. It was her showing in Infinity War and then Wandavision that made her such a beloved character (outside of the comics). Like, she was on Ant-Man levels of popularity: a cool character in the comics but who didn't really take off in the films. From Marvel's perspective, Wanda was kind of just a loose end from the old phase 2 era no one cared about, and had no place in the world with Avengers HQ going away. So creating a cool storyline of making her a villain to close out her story was, in theory, a good move. Basic plan: set up her motivation in Infinity War/Endgame, show her downfall in Wandavision, and have a big climactic ending in Doctor Strange. Great, have all three movies start writing.
They kind of suffered from success though, because they made her story *so* good in Infinity War, Endgame, and Wandavision that people weren't ready to see her go. Marvel were especially left in a rough spot with Wandavision, because the story Jac Schaeffer cooked up was masterful, but didn't set her up well for where she should be for Doctor Strange. It's clear from Doctor Strange 2 that viewers are already meant to see Wanda as a villain by the time the movie starts, but in reality she just wasn't. It's likely the lore requirements Schaeffer was given was something like, "Wanda enslaves a town, unlocks evil witch powers, and finds an evil magic book. She just lost her husband *again* plus her unborn kids, and will do anything to get them back. By the end she's clearly heading down a dark path." All of the events in Wandavision, out of context, make it look like a villain origin story, because that's clearly what they were intending and what was expected of the Doctor Strange 2 plot. But the script that was actually written for Wandavision was something much more sympathetic (and better). Upon seeing it Marvel either had to meddle with Wandavision last minute to make it line up with the original "turn her into a villain" arc more, or now have this sudden hell-turn in the already written Doctor Strange film. They ultimately made the better choice and left Wandavision as is, letting fans fall in love with her at the cost of Doctor Strange being worse and now out of character.
Wanda was a victim of scheduling. They had a three movie plan (Infinity War, Wandavision, Doctor Strange) to close out her story because she wasn't a liked character, and by the time the first two released and they realized everyone liked her now, it was too late and they had already filmed killing her off. Best they could do was remedy the situation later by adding some VFX of magic to Doctor Strange 2 to imply she *might not* have actually died, then start projects like Agatha and VisionQuest that would eventually work to undo it.
chantastic2025-10-24 02:12
Here is a cut-n-paste of a comment I wrote years ago in another subreddit
> Totally agree. The collapse of Phase 4 and beyond began with how WandaVision ended. The Scarlet Witch should have been the beginning of the tears between universes which then lead to the incursions and Secret Wars, not Doctor Strange in MoM.
>
> Wanda's powers in the comic books have always been about probability manipulation - she can will an unprobable event into happening. So the explanation of that power should have been that she can open tears from the MCU into alternate universes where an unprobable thing actually happened and make it happen in the MCU, much like Jobu Tupaki in Everything Everywhere All At Once. The recasted Quicksilver should have absolutely been the actual Quicksilver from the Fox movies, not Ralph Boehner. Vision should have been a real Vision pulled from an alternate reality where Thanos does not kill him, instead of a completely new construct. Billy and Tommy should have been actual children that Wanda pulled from another universe where she has children.
TheDeadlyCat2025-10-24 10:38
I would welcome the death of OG Wanda if that meant we could see her alongside her brother at Magneto‘s side with the X-Men when the incursion happens in Doomsday.
Would be a great way to bring her back and have her be a Mutant because that is possible now.
Spicy_Weissy2025-10-23 17:06
This post isn't even thirty minutes old and wow do some people hate women. If this was Chris Evans saying this they'd be creaming themselves.
guidethyhandd2025-10-23 17:13
r/imaginarygatekeeping
bamuelsmeckett2025-10-23 17:26
There's only two negative comments
VaishakhD2025-10-23 17:31
And one of them is mine which is not even targeting her lol, Im just asking for the other phase 4 characters to get more screen time.
Spicy_Weissy2025-10-23 17:32
When this post went up they were the only ones, like immediately.
bamuelsmeckett2025-10-23 18:08
You really jumped the gun then didn't you lol
Homo-Erect2025-10-23 17:10
Wanda is my favorite character so I’d love to see her back.
Also it feels like I need to note that actors take on these type of high paying roles which in turn allows them to take more risks in their career doing roles that they feel like.
Spicy_Weissy2025-10-23 17:22
For real, I don't get why some people are getting all twisted about. This is why people sign on to these big franchise projects. A steady well paying job you actually like doing is rare.
ScuzzBuckster2025-10-23 22:23
Also, many actors do quite a bit of research into their roles and can become really attached to the characters they play. Olsen has always been very very open about how much she loves Wanda as a character and how much she loves *being* the character. Like, sometimes people are just honest about their feelings and sometimes an actor wants to keep playing a character they enjoy. I dont see how thats deserving of derision.
UsidoreTheLightBlue2025-10-23 17:23
You gotta do the safe picture. Then you can do the art picture. But then sometimes you gotta do the payback picture because your friend says you owe him
CaptHayfever2025-10-23 18:19
*aside glance to camera*
Cooper_Sharpy2025-10-23 19:41
One could say his view was askew
twavisdegwet2025-10-23 17:47
Yep! Leads to great films like The Assessment
koinkydink2025-10-23 20:28
I don’t think it’s completely impossible. If they can bring RDJ back for a different role, they certainly can bring back Elizabeth Olsen as Wanda.
illucio2025-10-24 02:12
Im pretty sure even a lot of executives at Disney let alone Marvel themselves want Wanda back.
Wandavision, Multiverse of Madness and then Agatha All Along really made them look at the money flowing from Wanda/Agatha/Wiccan/Witch merch.
I still think she's alive / will come back whether its a variant still played by Elizabeth or another version of her character from the X-Men universe.
DetBabyLegs2025-10-24 02:32
Yup. A friend of mine said I work on shitty hallmark movies to pay the bills and allow me to work on projects I really love, with my friends, for cheap
FordBeWithYou2025-10-24 19:22
“One for them, one for me”
Electrical_Quality_62025-10-23 17:18
thats americas woman
Any-Maintenance-98962025-10-23 17:24
Would love to see her come back somehow in VisionQuest!
Metalhead_VI2025-10-23 18:20
They say it's the end of the trilogy, so I wonder if there's something for her there
Ganrokh2025-10-23 18:55
Given that White Vision's current story is that he has all of those memories without the personal connections, I don't see how VisionQuest can be any good without diving into some of those (probably new to us) memories. If Wanda doesn't appear in the flesh, she'll at least appear in flashbacks, and that'll hopefully flesh her out more.
shust892025-10-23 17:26
I’ll watch anything Elizabeth Olsen does.
buefordwilson2025-10-23 19:28
The movie was brutal, but her and Renner were fantastic in Wind River.
shust892025-10-23 19:32
Yeah, it was a great but sad movie.
Hyro0o02025-10-23 17:27
She had a Disney villain death so it won't exactly be hard to bring her back
ouatpll122025-10-23 17:28
Billy and Tommy need her , why does Vision get his boys back , and Wanda is gone
Cultural_Comfort58942025-10-23 19:38
Billy & Tommy had Wanda and no Vision (that we were shown) in every universe but 616
So hopefully this dynamic and your question will be answered in VisionQuest.
ouatpll122025-10-23 19:46
It just would be unfair to Wanda that she’s probably gone forever after she went full Scarlet Witch to get her children back but fails , I want that big reunion between Wanda and her kids and we don’t know if or when she will come back, it would feel cheap if it was another Wanda who joins the MCU in the future played by the same actress, it would be interesting how the family gets back together, Agatha has Billy and soon Vision will have Tommy and who knows when Wanda will make her big return, hopefully by one of the upcoming Avenger movies
These_Wish_51012025-10-23 17:36
Seems like Disney has paid up..😄
WheresMyBrakes2025-10-23 17:45
They did her dirty. I was so shocked Multiverse of Madness didn’t have a redemption arc.
Cultural_Comfort58942025-10-23 19:40
She got possession free and destroyed a great evil in every universe
I thought that was redemptive and one of the biggest power displays in the MCU
ProgrammerNextDoor2025-10-23 23:24
It is absolutely the biggest display of power we’ve seen (and scales WAY past the snap with the multiverse).
vivianvisionsburner2025-10-23 17:52
I'm ready
N8CCRG2025-10-23 17:53
Has it already been a week since the last one of these articles? My how time flies.
jackolantern_2025-10-23 18:31
They butchered the character in strange 2.
Multisym2025-10-23 18:38
It’s healthy for actors to step away and do smaller projects. Rare are the few who really are truly done, but these roles stay with them for their career.
NotANiceCanadian2025-10-23 18:48
When MoM came out, I made a post here about how disappointing it was that Wanda immediately became evil after having a whole series dedicated to her being evil and noticing that what she was doing was wrong and repenting.
People were mad at my take, telling me “ITS THE DARKHOLD WHAT DID YOU EXPECT”
Glad to know more people share the sentiment that Wanda should have had a series or more time to fall to the Darkhold.
Cultural_Comfort58942025-10-23 19:50
It was 9 shows leading to her Darkhold possession
Wanda is a tragic figure 😢
The MCU stayed true to that.
Now I’m suspecting they’re going to give us a happy ending 😳😅 but also use that to remove the uber powerful Vision and Scarlet Witch, two nearly unbeatable would probably end most conflicts easily characters.
TotalAnarchy_2025-10-23 21:52
Comic spoilers. >!Wanda got a nerf when she absorbed the Darkhold. She's constantly keeping Cthon at bay with half her power. Easy option for the MCU.!<
labbla2025-10-24 05:48
I've always felt the Darkhold stuff was super weak. A character reading a book to become evil is very underwhelming. It's an unsatisfying post credit scene and unsatisfying development for a character. Doctor Strange 2 in general really screwed up and it's connection to WandaVision makes it an even worse movie.
robodrew2025-10-23 19:07
I really think since VisionQuest is supposed to be the 3rd "in a trilogy", as in the conclusion of this story, that it will end with Agatha and Billy showing up and teaming up with Vision and Tommy to use magic+technology+ghost shit to bring Wanda back and reunite the family. It just feels like the right way to end the story and would be a missed opportunity otherwise.
Ed-Sanz2025-10-23 19:22
Multiverse Wanda
Puppetmaster8582025-10-23 19:30
MCU dropped the ball so fuckin hard with Wanda, finally has a bonafide superstar female character and then they do MoM and nothing for years and now doesn’t look like she is even in doomsday, gonna be like 5 or more years between appearances which is just ridiculous because she’s the most popular female character in the MCU and one of the most popular in general. They fumbled so badly with MoM in general imo
KazFN2025-10-23 19:35
thought for a second she was talking about a dog😭
Ok_Butterscotch_96832025-10-23 19:40
Guessing that post Marvel career didn’t go exactly as she thought - nearly all actors post Marvel have stumbled finding that same notoriety and success
PixalPop2025-10-23 21:40
I'm sure she misses the paycheck too
Sirmalta2025-10-23 22:11
I think these actors need to be a little more mature lol.
Yeah, you're always gonna wanna come back to the easy pay check and the adoration from fans.
Maybe stop acting like you're done with the job you do for 3 weeks every 2 years lmao.
j1h152332025-10-24 00:30
She will 100% be back some day. They didn’t show her death
Grayx_28872025-10-24 03:57
If they can finally give Ms. Olsen, a much better script to work with. Unlike the script to Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.
taylorhildebrand2025-10-24 13:12
Moneyyyyyyy
dayaaa_ria2025-10-24 14:53
She’s soo going to be in secret warss
MiCK_GaSM2025-10-24 15:53
She likes those millions she gets to wave her hands around and flex that ever evolving accent
matt_28072025-10-26 16:35
What happened to her I can't remember now. Last I remember was her sat in a cabin absorbing a book
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Oh, the humanity.
Edit: Lmao, not you editing your comment, changing it, and playing victim when you originally were quite mean before.
Then they start spending too much money, and they get back to well-paid but poorly-written projects lmao. Look at Al Pacino, dude blew all his money and started doing very questionable projects just to get some cash.
Social media has really fucked up how audiences interact with media. Before an actor who was in a film that was not like just had to deal with critics in the paper or an online article, but now it gets thrown in their faces constantly in the worst ways.
I truly wish Scarlet Witch to reappear as a genuine hero who saves people and other heroes in dire need. And ultimately it is what the character truly is.
Wanda is unfortunately trapped in the same negative stereotypes that Superman once held. Except those fans who cried about people not understanding Superman are silent on Wanda, in fact many including this sub just believe that's who Wanda is always. It was a false revisionist view that people have spread to rationalize the awful writings.
It's time to break the curses.
The problem is that Wanda has been around in comics since 1964, she has hundreds of appearances across the history of comics and like you said, the vast majority of that time she has been a *hero*. An avenger, an x-man, and a defender. MCU really hasnt given us hardly any Wanda being a hero. I hope with them bringing in Billy and Tommy, they can bring back Wanda and she can be her heroic self.
Doctor Strange 2 shouldn't have had her as a one-off villain. Do a series followup to Wandavision that is all about Wanda's turn to villainy first.
Why the fuck did we get Ironheart or Echo instead of an evil Wanda solo show after Wandavision?
Wanda, hulk, strange, Sam, Sharon, captain marvel, Hank and Janet, Thor, Jane foster, nick fury, taskmaster, mordo, Rhodes, Yellowjacket. There’s a lot.
In the MCU it could have worked if Phase 4 had a few instances of characters acting off only to reveal they're Skrulls in Phase 5.
An example of possible setups:
She-Hulk's DD in the yellow outfit? Have a post-credit scene with him talking to a shadowy figure and giving them She-Hulk's DNA.
Shang Chi's Karaoke scene? After the singing, have Wong report to a shadowy figure and tell them they have located the 10 Rings.
FATWS scene with Sharon? Have her report to a shadowy figure that the SuperSoldier serum is ready to be shipped.
Small setups like those, none of them showing a Skrull transformation, but hinting at something big. Instead of Gravik, a named character should have been the Skrull leader.
Maybe Selvig? He's from Phase 1 and the actor is one of the best dramatic actors out there, him as the Skrull Emperor would have been peak.
And ideally, Val's black ops team pre-Thunderbolts (Yelena, Taskmaster, Ghost, Walker) should have been the squad that is tasked with executing the Skrulls, both good and bad Skrulls.
OR an Avengers movie where we must rely on the underground folks like Moon Knight, Blade, Elsa Bloodstone to save the Avengers as Skrulls masquerade as them. You could do that exact plot with the Defenders or a Young Avengers (with Kate Bishop Hawkeye, Ms Marvel, Patriot, Ava Ayala White Tiger, Stature, Wiccan, Speed, and Viv Vision)
THAT is when these teamups are best when are heroes are called upon and at a disadvantage (Thunderbolts, OG Avengers, Endgame) as opposed to when they are a super established entity. THEN we start to treat Kang/Doom/the Beyonder as the big bad for the next phase (even if I prefer the Doom and Kang that are always a constant threat)
Multiverse Of Madness was great on many levels. I get that many people don’t get it. Many people find Godfather 1 & 2 to be lacking.
Any and all characters can reappear again in ways that make sense, especially Wanda since she is magical and alters reality and no body in fiction equals no death (which has parallels to reality)
Hollywood leans towards simple films, remakes and sequels because people in general don’t GET things unless it’s simple, stereotypical and tropes.
It’s not a knock on anyone or their intelligence.
There are somethings I just don’t get or i do get and I get that other people like it and it could be very good films/music/etc. it just doesn’t appeal to me.
Wanda vs. everyone. Many old heroes die (bye bye Hawkeye, Shuri, and Ant-Man), and some are forever altered (bye bye Prof Hulk, hello World Breaker Hulk, hello young Hank Pym and Janet, hello King T'Challa II).
And from the ashes, New Avengers and Young Avengers rise for Phase 6. Wanda's chaos magic was the perfect recipe to reverse some bad decisions without using the Multiversal angle.
We don't need Secret Wars to get an adult T'Challa II or young Hank and Janet, just have Wanda's chaos magic alter reality. It's that easy.
I mean seeing as Thanos could hardly be beaten by pretty much everyone in endgame, but Wanda almost tore him to shreds in less than a minute, seems like it shoulda been a no brainer lol
She had a great arc that was true to the tragic character
I guess they want and they lived happily ever after Wanda (🧙which 👀 isn’t a thing as far as I know)
In civil war, her collateral damage was ridiculously contained compared to the rest of the avengers and so explainable that it wasn’t really her fault. Imo you could’ve had something like Crossbones actually got the better of cap somehow and was going to kill him and she psychically gets in his head to kill him and byproduct kills the whole city of civilians as well, or something to really justify the accords and give the civil war some actual driving stakes.
Then in Infinity war, have her like straight up refuse to kill vision and be like hey fyi I’m scarlet witch you all can’t make me. Then the rest can still unfold as it happened.
Then Wanda vision, then yeah give her one more film where we see her turn to the darkhold to save the day and descend a bit deeper into madness, Shang Chi and Young Hawkeye both really needed follow up films so maybe a team up with one of them? Maybe against that villain from doctor strange one who never got a follow up?
“Shouldn’t have to watch a show to understand a movie “
🙄 That’s a fact that was handled well in the film. For some reason people don’t want to accept it even though it was clearly established and reaffirmed.
This happened with the Star Wars prequels too. Paywalling a tv show and expecting movie goers to pre-viewing like homework before watching is ridiculous and of course is going to break up the flow of the viewing experience
Star Wars is an excellent example. I really don’t know any of its lore outside of the main movies and now shows.
And I understand it has tons of lore that was also better than what’s been put on screen.
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Definitely the shows not being easy to view are a down side.
By the end of Wandavision she wasn't evil. Then in DS2 she's full evil. It didn't feel earned.
Another thing that the MCU did was make it clear that significant events happen off screen too.
Trying to explain everything can make a story horrible, which is why the ongoing MCU is cool.
I enjoy books, tv, films that start in the middle of some action and don’t explain everything it makes them more real to me.
We see friends that we use to hang with everyday years later have an adventure maybe see significant differences with them but it doesn’t have to be explained. We understand things happen.
I GET YOUR POINT AND SEE HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT PEOPLES ENJOYMENT
Which means Dr Strange will be evil. DS2 ends with DS with a 3rd eye going with Clea to do some offscreen stuff.
Tust me, if next time we see DS he's already full-evil, audiences WILL hate it even if DS2 hinted at it.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out
You could be right 🤔
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This just occurred to me. With the elimination of all Darkhold’s he shouldn’t be corrupted.
They kind of suffered from success though, because they made her story *so* good in Infinity War, Endgame, and Wandavision that people weren't ready to see her go. Marvel were especially left in a rough spot with Wandavision, because the story Jac Schaeffer cooked up was masterful, but didn't set her up well for where she should be for Doctor Strange. It's clear from Doctor Strange 2 that viewers are already meant to see Wanda as a villain by the time the movie starts, but in reality she just wasn't. It's likely the lore requirements Schaeffer was given was something like, "Wanda enslaves a town, unlocks evil witch powers, and finds an evil magic book. She just lost her husband *again* plus her unborn kids, and will do anything to get them back. By the end she's clearly heading down a dark path." All of the events in Wandavision, out of context, make it look like a villain origin story, because that's clearly what they were intending and what was expected of the Doctor Strange 2 plot. But the script that was actually written for Wandavision was something much more sympathetic (and better). Upon seeing it Marvel either had to meddle with Wandavision last minute to make it line up with the original "turn her into a villain" arc more, or now have this sudden hell-turn in the already written Doctor Strange film. They ultimately made the better choice and left Wandavision as is, letting fans fall in love with her at the cost of Doctor Strange being worse and now out of character.
Wanda was a victim of scheduling. They had a three movie plan (Infinity War, Wandavision, Doctor Strange) to close out her story because she wasn't a liked character, and by the time the first two released and they realized everyone liked her now, it was too late and they had already filmed killing her off. Best they could do was remedy the situation later by adding some VFX of magic to Doctor Strange 2 to imply she *might not* have actually died, then start projects like Agatha and VisionQuest that would eventually work to undo it.
> Totally agree. The collapse of Phase 4 and beyond began with how WandaVision ended. The Scarlet Witch should have been the beginning of the tears between universes which then lead to the incursions and Secret Wars, not Doctor Strange in MoM.
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> Wanda's powers in the comic books have always been about probability manipulation - she can will an unprobable event into happening. So the explanation of that power should have been that she can open tears from the MCU into alternate universes where an unprobable thing actually happened and make it happen in the MCU, much like Jobu Tupaki in Everything Everywhere All At Once. The recasted Quicksilver should have absolutely been the actual Quicksilver from the Fox movies, not Ralph Boehner. Vision should have been a real Vision pulled from an alternate reality where Thanos does not kill him, instead of a completely new construct. Billy and Tommy should have been actual children that Wanda pulled from another universe where she has children.
Would be a great way to bring her back and have her be a Mutant because that is possible now.
Also it feels like I need to note that actors take on these type of high paying roles which in turn allows them to take more risks in their career doing roles that they feel like.
Wandavision, Multiverse of Madness and then Agatha All Along really made them look at the money flowing from Wanda/Agatha/Wiccan/Witch merch.
I still think she's alive / will come back whether its a variant still played by Elizabeth or another version of her character from the X-Men universe.
So hopefully this dynamic and your question will be answered in VisionQuest.
I thought that was redemptive and one of the biggest power displays in the MCU
People were mad at my take, telling me “ITS THE DARKHOLD WHAT DID YOU EXPECT”
Glad to know more people share the sentiment that Wanda should have had a series or more time to fall to the Darkhold.
Wanda is a tragic figure 😢
The MCU stayed true to that.
Now I’m suspecting they’re going to give us a happy ending 😳😅 but also use that to remove the uber powerful Vision and Scarlet Witch, two nearly unbeatable would probably end most conflicts easily characters.
Yeah, you're always gonna wanna come back to the easy pay check and the adoration from fans.
Maybe stop acting like you're done with the job you do for 3 weeks every 2 years lmao.