Do you consider No Way Home’s end credit scene retconned due to the events of Venom 3?

This has always bugged me since The Last Dance came out, and on a rewatch of that movie tonight, I wanted to pose the question. Is there two symbiotes across two different universes now being left in a bar? Or did Venom 3 retcon it, so that the symbiote left in the bar, is only in Sony’s universe now?

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JargonJohn2025-10-21 06:18

No.

Dorlando_Calrissian2025-10-21 06:19

I haven’t seen venom 3 but I think the no way home credits left it just ambiguous enough. It’s there for them to use if they want, or it could never come back up ever again. I doubt venom 3 changes that

GillGruntFan532025-10-21 07:14

In Venom 3, he leaks more of himself at the Sonyverse version of the bar which the military confiscates and specifically calls out as “viral shedding”. So what started in the MCU just continued in the Sonyverse, what got left behind here is still around though.

skilledgamer552025-10-21 07:55

That was probably to explain why he did that in NWH instead of some super secret hidden motive, he just sheds himself randomly

eagc72025-10-21 08:54

Yeah, i mean the mere idea that Venom simply sheds part of himself in both version of the bars i can 100% believe.

If anything i would say the bigger issue is the fact they retconned how Venom got the boot from the MCU (Doesn't help that Morbius stayed consistent with the way the characters did multiversal travel via Strange's spell), than the idea that he left bits of himself in both worlds

mrbaryonyx2025-10-21 19:25

so

he just does that when he's at a bar

gross

tiggoftigg2025-10-21 20:23

I thought it was previously established that that’s just how symbiotes propagate. Isn’t that why carnage exists? And numerous other symbiotes?

ElBorracho20002025-10-21 06:23

It’ll be ignored like other post-credit scenes in the MCU that have gone absolutely nowhere

Hnro-422025-10-21 06:58

Like how:
IM: we never saw iron man in the avengers
IM2: we never saw thor find mjolnir in the desert
T: we never saw Shield experimenting on tesseract
CA: we never saw captain america in the avengers
A: we never saw thanos going after infinity stones
TDW: we never follow collector having the reality stone
WS: we never see wanda and pietro again
GotG: we never see baby groot again
AoU: we never see thanos invade earth for infinity stones
AM: we never see Hope using wasp suit
CW: we never follow up Bucky deprograming in wakanda
DS: we never follow up on Thor looking for odin
Gotg2: we never see kraglin with yaka arrow or ayesha creating adam to get revenge on the guardians
TR: we follow up on thor’s encountering thanos’ ship
BP: we never follow up on wakanda opening to the world
IW: we never follow up on fury paging captain marvel
AM&W: we never follow up on time travelling using the quantum realm
CM: we never follow up on fury getting blipped
SMFFH: we never see ramifications of mysterio outing and framing peter
BW: we never see yelena working with val
/s

DO0M882025-10-21 07:01

You really took the time to write all this just to prove a point? 😂

Itzamiracle9872025-10-21 07:04

Necessary evil, that post credit argument gets thrown around a lot

spiderjjr452025-10-21 07:08

It's a shame OP* spent that effort, because OP still proved their point when OP left out the last 4 years straight of movies, the ones that they are referring to.

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spiderjjr452025-10-21 07:10

Fixed! Usernames are hard.

Itzamiracle9872025-10-21 07:10

I respect your quick fix good sir 🫡

Hnro-422025-10-21 07:52

It was partly for interest haha
Seems that the turning point is 2021 that they havent followed up with yet

alex4942025-10-21 17:33

Better than letting people spread random misinformation

Antrikshy2025-10-21 07:24

Ok, now list all the post credits scenes in recent years and break down the percentages of ones that were picked up vs not.

Hnro-422025-10-21 07:48

SC: we havent seen what the rings are a beacon for
E: we havent seen eros&pip or black knight
SMNWH: see this post
MoM: we havent seen clea
L&T: we havent seen herc
WF: we havent seen baby tchalla
QM: we havent followed up on kang council
Vol3: we havent followed up on quill & grandpa
M: we havent followed up on xmen alt universe
BNW: we havent followed up on stern’s ‘bad thing’
Thunderbolts: we havent seen why F4 are visiting
F4: we havent seen doom yet
All of these i would wager are for doomsday and secret wars

Hnro-422025-10-21 08:00

Ill add tv shows:
WV: we have followed up with rambeu in space and wanda with darkhold
FatWS: we havent followed up with sharon carter power broker, but have followed up Walker working with Val
WI?1: we have followed up with hydra stomper
MK: we havent followed up with jake lockely
MM: we have followed up with kamala swapping CM
SH: we havent followed up with Blonsky at kamartaj
Echo: we have followed up with fisk becoming mayor
DDBA: we havent seen daredevils team
IH: we havent seen parker robbins learning magic

MusicLikeOxygen2025-10-21 16:07

That's a dumb argument, because almost all of them haven't been followed up on because they haven't gotten a sequel yet. That's like complaining that they didn't follow up on captain America thawing out before they made Avengers 1. If they make another Thor without Hercules showing up or another Black Panther with out his kid, then you have an argument. Otherwise, you need to be patient and let them cook.

Turbulent-Ad-6472025-10-21 15:11

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Fallenjace2025-10-21 06:26

Those scenes take place in different realities, and are entirely separate, and unique. No, it is not retconned.

Sirmalta2025-10-21 06:32

Lmao

radikraze2025-10-21 13:18

Thank you. Idk why this is even a question if you watched both movies

Taste_the__Rainbow2025-10-21 13:52

Hey I can understand having 7 different universe, but I draw the line at 8, partner.

nage_2025-10-21 06:27

it just didn't make sense.

i understand the intention of the teaser but the spell sent back all sentient beings and all parts of the symbiote are sentient. why venom even cared about spiderman is just a random nod to the audience already knowing their relationship

DefNotAShark2025-10-21 07:12

Sonyverse Venom is a multiversal being apparently with some kind of linked consciousness between its variants. It isn’t explicitly stated of course but it is possible that its biology reacts differently to multiversal magic than the other villains. I’m not saying that’s great and satisfying writing but it could have been a barely acceptable handwave explanation to wave off what didn’t make sense about it leaving part of itself in 616.

But then they did what they did in Venom 3 and there is no salvaging it. It just makes no sense at all. Same as the Morbius post credit with Vulture.

JamiesBond0072025-10-21 08:31

>Sonyverse Venom is a multiversal being apparently with some kind of linked consciousness between its variants

I've read before that it's like this in comics as well, isn't it?

iamnotexactlywhite2025-10-21 10:55

yes. Knull controls the symbiote hive mind

the_old_coday1822025-10-21 08:45

In the comics, symbiotes are linked to a hive mind that can communicate across the multiverse. So for example, every venom/symbiote host from every universe knows that Peter Parker is Spiderman. In NWH, Strange’s broken spell affected those across the multiverse who know Spider-Man’s identity *in their own timeline*. So it explains how Venom ended up in the MCU even if Spidey was never in Tom Hardy Venom’s timeline. I actually like how that’s so similar to the comics.

With the cliffhanger/drop of symbiote, it could’ve been laying foundations for a *possible* introduction of Venom into the MCU later on. Basically that Strange’s spell didn’t work on completely on Venom because the symbiote can’t fully “forget” Peter (thanks to the hive mind). So a little bit was left behind. Or, the symbiote did that on purpose because they were interested in 616 Peter. Not saying it was set in stone, but they at least left the option open just in case.

Crazy_Mann2025-10-21 12:40

If that's the case then every single venom from every universe in the multiverse would be transported to 616, a Venompocalypse if you want

OfficialOffishil2025-10-21 14:46

Which would've happened at the end if they didnt fix the spell. Remember when all the other spidey villains who knew his identity were going to come through?

rasputin12025-10-21 14:54

pepperidge farm remembers

relikter2025-10-21 17:29

Maybe the spell only worked on humans, so that symbiote came through because it was bonded to Eddie. No other symbiotes could catch a ride on a human at the time. _Every_ other variant of Venom was non-bonded at the time. This is a very convoluted explanation though.

robodrew2025-10-21 17:06

This is just so unnecessarily convoluted.

uncleben852025-10-21 17:34

It's really not, though

Venom knew who Peter was because the Hivemind shares a collective consciousness across the multiverse.

Islero472025-10-21 22:56

Even simpler, when they fixed things they sent everyone back to their home universe. But if the Venom reproduced in the bar, then that spawn was from the MCU616, so it was in it's home universe.

Riversntallbuildings2025-10-21 13:37

Yeah, I thought Dr strange and multiverse of madness (and madame web to a much lesser degree) established that the spiderverse is its own unique multiversal plane.

Procyon-Sceletus2025-10-21 07:12

Maybe the spell didnt work on the piece of venom because of the multiversal hivemind and only sent back the parts attached to eddie

PhotoBonjour_bombs192025-10-21 07:47

Well maybe that’s the rules on these movies 🤷 they can make up any rule they want and it would make sense.

Previous_Spell_4262025-10-21 08:28

To be completely fair, literally nothing about that spell or really the entire plot of the movie makes much sense.

NazzerDawk2025-10-21 13:39

It can be explained with a single line.

"His biology is different and his memory is not affected by magic the same way".

Previous_Spell_4262025-10-21 14:18

Then why would all of him be teleported there in the first place, and why would only that little slither be affected that one time?

NazzerDawk2025-10-21 14:39

So the movie could happen. There are no actual rules, ya know.

Relevant_Career_66882025-10-21 09:25

totally, it feels like they just threw in a nod without thinking it through

Odd-Formal83822025-10-21 10:40

totally, it just feels like a messy way to tie it all together

Jaxonhunter2272025-10-21 16:25

But if venom gives "birth" in that universe, then it originated in that universe, not the home universe of venom

Gear_2025-10-22 02:12

I interpreted it as since venom is this blob of constantly growing/regenerating/changing cells that in the brief time he was in the MCU some of those cells had essentially been ‘born’ in that dimension in that time and didn’t get sent back

ModernBass2025-10-22 04:27

Are we really gonna act like anything about the two spells made sense?

pikkaMAX2025-10-22 05:38

I read a fanfic once (though I don’t know how lore accurate it is) that symbiotes reproduce asexually and that was what that was, so it didn’t get sent back because it was born in 19999 and therefore apart of that universe

esar242025-10-21 06:30

I will never take anything from venom movie as canon

TheHeroicLionheart2025-10-21 06:52

Adrian is still in prison. If they acknowledge his disappearance thats gunna do damage to how I view the MCU

E-Normus-Titz2025-10-21 06:59

With all the bullshit they are doing, they could use some Venom with Tom Hardy.

Rising-Jay2025-10-21 07:53

With how ATSV addressed displaced villains, he might already be back anyways

The__Auditor2025-10-21 16:20

Yeah this right her is honestly such an easy fix

Scarlet-Wid0w2025-10-21 06:42

No.

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-21 06:45

Although I've seen several say no... I think it's more likely that yes.

Let's think about it for a moment. The scene already retcons 99% of the No Way Home post-credits scene. Eddie no longer mentions Iron Man, Hulk, or Thanos. He no longer mentions Spider-Man or shows any interest in him. He's taken to the SSU in a different way, and he's given a different motivation for going to New York.

Is it really impossible that the symbiote bit hasn't also been retconned? Even more so when Sony made so much of it, even adding a penny to it.

Besides, I don't see how it would benefit Marvel to continue keeping the post-credits scene. It's obvious that the original idea, at least for Sony, was for this creature to be the link between the SSU and the MCU, thus justifying a crossover that Marvel prevented, and the SSU no longer exists.

What good does it do for Marvel Studios to maintain a connection with a canceled universe? When they can easily say in the future that the symbiote came from space.

I've seen some say, "No, keep its multiversal origin but simply ignore it. No one would mention that it's a product of the multiverse." If that's the case, then what difference does it make to give it a new origin if we're already ignoring the past?

2. One way or another, its origin must be told, since it's a vital part of the symbiote's character.

So, yes, it seems to me that that scene was completely retconned, and I don't mind, to be honest.

FelixTheJeepJr2025-10-21 07:03

Was the SSU officially cancelled?

Altruistic_Eye_11572025-10-21 07:25

Well yes, considering that they have not announced anything else about that universe.

Ericandabear2025-10-21 06:46

I dont consider it Canon because I dont consider the NWH stinger Canon either

Thewirelessexpert2025-10-21 06:47

I wouldn't be surprised if it goes nowhere because of how their current climate of the mcu/super heros movies are at right

I would say technically do note that Marvel and Sony are sharing Spidermans live action movie rights now, .so it gets messy.

While I have seen a vast number of the mcu films, I have stopped venom after his first movie, but I'm aware of the plot oint in the 2nd and 3rd.

So, hopefully, I can get this right and not mess it up.

Buti interpreted. It is that NWH takes place after V2 or before V3 venom dies in V3 as far as we know.

But he did leave a little piece at the end of no way home, which I might consider it to be an offspring, so it might be able to on a technicality, not get sent back to the original universe of where its parents came from, given that Symbiotes. in the comics can only give birth to one offspring, but As we can see that they have given birth to multiple due to different genetic situations Or experimentation.

So, while its mind could be wiped, it might gain memories. From different time lines because I think it was mentioned in one of the venom films that they are connected across the multiverse, meaning that it could have amnesia, but get memories of other symbiotes.

Causing a problem with the host, it bonds to I can only imagine the problems. Having like an amount of time just taken/ Erased. from you and having to know what happened from different places.

But I again I wouldn't be surprised if goes nowhere

I say it not cannon unless it gets brought up again or goes somewhere.

DontSleepAlwaysDream2025-10-21 06:47

I hold a rather heretical view

Sonyverse Venom never crossed over with the MCU

The events of the venom movies dont match up with the events of the Spiderman movies. Venom sees an image of Peter Parker on TV that was never actually taken, meanwhile how Venom returns home in No way home doesnt match up with how Venom returns home in Venom 3

therefore, my heretical viewpoint is that Venom went to a spinter timeline version of the MCU, and the Venom who turned up in No Way Home was a different variant

SerDavosHaihefa2025-10-21 09:37

Or maybe, to not overcomplicate this. The two studio are in a consensual but mutually hateful marriage. Sony wanted his IP to be in the MCU and the MCU didn't even touched it with a 2 foot stick, they threw it back just like it came, in a post credits scene and only one piece of symbiote was acceptable, not more. Then Sony doubled down, said f you too then and wanted to mess with everything, taking away Vulture from the MCU (wouldn't be surprised if the MCU one would be still in the MCU, completely ignoring whatever the Sony universe was), messing up the venom piece thing, etc.

DontSleepAlwaysDream2025-10-21 09:40

yeah probably, but thats an out-of universe viewpoint, which isnt what I was talking about

Im talking about from an in-universe viewpoint, as if these were actual events and not just a series of movies about profitable IPs

malexich2025-10-21 12:13

This is the same Sony that wanted all their Spider-Man villain films in the mcu and was told no

EyeScreamSunday2025-10-21 06:51

I think the intent was Sony trying to retcon it, because there is no reason they would recreate a reason for coin with symbiote on it to later capture it, if not to literally take it off the table for Marvel Studios.

The thing is that it is in Venom's universe and doesn't actually work as a retcon since the original post-credit scene has the symbiote left in the MCU.

SmartPilot80942025-10-21 06:52

Yes It wouldnt make sense for the symbiote To stay in the MCU Since its a part of Venom and the spell should brought back everyone from their original universe

Spidey_27972025-10-21 06:54

I had this idea that venom was in The Collectors collection and when Thanos broke in, to retrieve the stone, venom escaped stowed away on Thanos’ ship and made it to earth.

ich-bin-on-that-shit2025-10-21 07:05

If it happened in the MCU it’s canon. If it happened in a Sony verse movie, it’s not.

FredPopTheProphet2025-10-21 07:16

I think it's just open ended in case they wanna do something with it later or just forget about it.

Ivan_Redditor2025-10-21 07:25

No because it was a different universe anyways

FunkTronto2025-10-21 07:35

Nope. That’s Venom in the MCU.

Stop asking - we are ready to move on to better stuff.

justin28192025-10-21 07:49

I’m confused by the events of Venom 3. The scene was probably retconned, but not necessarily.

VanillaBear99152025-10-21 08:00

Idk but Sonys Venom movies are a cancer to the character and hopefully they bring him over and forget about those monstrosities.

sacredlunatic2025-10-21 08:17

I’ve said this before and a lot of people just don’t seem to get it or don’t seem to accept it.

The Sony spider verse movies are NOT actually connected to the MCU.

Sony absolutely wants you to believe they are and has gone to great lengths to make them seem as connected as they can. But they aren’t.

Marvel is in no way beholden to anything that happens in any of the Sony movies, aside from the specifically Tom Holland Spider-Man movies.

Riley__642025-10-21 08:27

It’s probably not retconned as i don’t see why Disney would want to do that Sonys given them the ability to use venom so I don’t see why they wouldn’t take that opportunity.

The venom symbiote being left behind in the Sony verse was just Sony baiting audiences to try and further connect their universe to the MCU and make their movies appear as mandatory viewing.

Hermes201013372025-10-21 08:44

Sony knows they can't make any of the IP work, so trying to trick fans into hoping their movies are within the MCU has been their thing since the start.

Did everyone forget how Feige had to step up and clarify that Venom 1 wouldn't be within the MCU, because SONY refused to give a clear answer?

MusicLikeOxygen2025-10-21 16:00

If the rumors about Madam Web are true, they tricked their actors into thinking they were in the MCU too.

SnabDedraterEdave2025-10-21 16:17

Utterly scummy rent-seeking behaviour by Sony to try and piggyback off the MCU's success without them lifting a finger.

If I were those actors with money to burn, I would totally try and see if I could sue Sony for fraud or something like that.

MusicLikeOxygen2025-10-21 16:29

It would be interesting to see how that lawsuit would go, but for the actors it's probably better to just move on and hope people forget they were even part of it.

Hermes201013372025-10-21 17:29

I read somewhere that if they keep making shitty movies, Marvel COULD eventually sue them for devaluing the IP and get it return, but if memory serves me well, the legal "Line in the sand" is veeeery vague, making it hard to pull off.

LogMonsa2025-10-21 19:14

It's impossible to pull off. Sony isn't an indie company and Spider-Man is the biggest Marvel heroes, ever. Sony will do anything to get Disney to back off.

It's the only Marvel movie that is guaranteed to make $1 billion, outside of Avengers, post-Endgame. Sony will never let that go. The only reason Sony even stopped making Sony-verse is because it kept losing money outside of Venom, so they just stopped.

eagc72025-10-21 08:46

Not unless someone involved in the films say otherwise

If anything i would be looking more at the fact they changed the way Strange kicked Brock out of the MCU, in the MCU he vanished via light, while in Venom he got absorbed by a portal, since i have no issues with the idea that Venom left pieces of himself on both versions of the bar.

Signal_Expression7302025-10-21 09:16

Two symbiotes.

BubblesZap2025-10-21 09:24

It could be retconned or it could not be it's entirely up to whether they choose to use it or not.

Considering they have Secret Wars coming up though I feel they'll probably use that for free "comic accuracy" points.

alexcutyourhair2025-10-21 09:49

I regard anything related to Venom as a senile person's fever dream that somehow got filmed

bargman2025-10-21 10:29

There's a Venom 3?

r01-85062025-10-21 10:35

Not retconned since it's a multiverse after all. For now, I can think of 3 characters so far who can "retcon" or do Terminator/Back to the Future approaches: Loki, formerly HWR Kang, KEVIN.

ZoNeS_v22025-10-21 10:48

Not canon. It was Sony strong arming their way into the MCU like a kid in your team school project who comes in on the final day and tries to take credit.

Caciulacdlac2025-10-21 10:48

I don't consider Venom 3 canon to the MCU, as Marvel Studios didn't have any involvement in it, nor was it ever referenced in a Marvel Studios production. So no, I don't consider the NWH post-credits retconned.

Same goes for Morbius. As far as I'm aware, Toomes is still in his universe.

cardiffman1002025-10-21 11:22

Considering Strange made multiple mistakes with the original spell (he blamed Peter but still, it's him doing it), it's not a stretch that he made a mistake with the return spell and didn't cover *everything*.

Supermite2025-10-21 13:21

Strange didn’t make any mistakes with the spell. Peter kept changing the parameters mid-spell.

pkjoan2025-10-21 11:31

The symbiote in Venom 3 is not the one from NWH.

OblivionArts2025-10-21 11:50

I mean the universal cosmology established in the mcu still leaves room for klyntar to exist , so well probably see the symbiote again especially since the black suit arc is one of the most popular stories of all time

undertow5212025-10-21 12:00

I don't consider much from the Venom movies, just like I don't consider Morbius, Kraven, or Madam Web as it relates to Spider-Man.

Cirias2025-10-21 12:53

I just ignore that the Sonyverse movies exist tbh

Aiyon2025-10-21 13:50

Generally I just don't worry about SPUMM movies

CT-10302025-10-21 13:59

It’s clearly two different pieces.

dpittnet2025-10-21 14:13

Myhtological2025-10-21 14:26

It wasn’t. A symbiote broke off of venom in both universes

WheelJack832025-10-21 14:33

Yes

kasmith20202025-10-21 14:34

What happened on in venom 3? Lol

eagc72025-10-21 21:46

Venom dies

BackgroundEngineer112025-10-21 14:34

Sony really wanted to make No Way Home, the most successful Spiderman movie of all time, the foundation of an entire expanded universe. The problem is they fumbled every move and hired the worst people. Kevin Feige was probably open to the idea of a crossover and bringing the symbiote officially into the MCU.

Sony obviously didn't care about the mechanics of how the multiverse or the spell in NWH works. They just wanted to hand wave the logic and stitch together their own Sinister Six which they've been trying to develop since Amazing Spiderman.

But then Sony made the worst movies and that door for a crossover was likely closed. We don't know all the backdoor discussions and meetings surrounding the SSU. The end credits scene for Morbius was changed possibly after some discussion between the studios. Venom 3 probably has similar discussions leading to the retcon.

a_phantom_limb2025-10-21 15:00

They're two different blobs of symbiote goo in two different universe. The only thing that *Venom: The Last Dance* attempted to retcon (albeit poorly) was the method by which Venom and Eddie returned to their universe. They still left a blob behind in the MCU.

ned1012025-10-21 15:09

Well it’s not retconned. The end credit scene shows some was left in the MCU. If Marvel choose to move forward with that, which they probably will, then they can do it pretty easily. Nothing is retconned.

aresef2025-10-21 16:16

No, it's not retconned. The drop of symbiote on the bar is still in play but it's gonna be like Scorpion, or any other MCU post-credits scene, where they may choose down the line to pay it off or forget about it.

LordDrichar2025-10-21 16:30

When did they make Venom 3?

eagc72025-10-21 21:45

Last year

tharkus_2025-10-21 16:46

I think it’s better it’s fixed. With russos being a fan of the secret wars comics. I see tom getting his version of the suit at some point during the movie. Which then lead in to his next movie.

ChemicalExperiment2025-10-21 16:55

The real answer? Even Marvel and Sony don't know. It was left as a cliffhanger to be picked up later with no plan in mind. The confusion of the two scenes is intentional so either company can claim "oh yeah the goo was left in this universe" in case they want to reference it again or deny its existence.

moolid2025-10-21 17:13

I’m not sure if I’d call it “retconned” yet, but the later events (in other films) do make the credit scene feel less certain. So yes it could get overridden or ignored, depending on how things unfold.

Aromatic-Cupcake48022025-10-21 17:16

Eddie goes to 616, spell sends him back and he leaves Venom gloop behind in a Mexican bar. In the same Mexican bar in his own universe he leaves another Venom gloop behind and leaves.

PhillipJ3ffries2025-10-21 17:31

It’s retconned cuz those venom movies suck balls

acf6b2025-10-21 19:58

Sony really fucked up everything Vemon related.

coaldiamond12025-10-21 20:30

It doesn't really make sense and feels like it was literally only there because they needed to get Rex a Venom sample and they figured if they did it they could put it in the trailer to make people think it's connected to the MCU

Nonadventures2025-10-21 21:19

1. They hop dimensions and go to Tom Holland’s Mexico (not sure which first)
2. Eddie talks to short haired Dani Rojas while venom sheds goo.
3. They transport back to their dimension’s own Mexico bar (where Dani Rojas has long hair) and venom sheds more goo.
4. The goo in Eddie’s dimension gets grabbed.

Original-Ranger-16042025-10-21 21:40

Such a pointless scene in both films now, just led nowhere

_pixelcounterbot_2025-10-21 23:10

No, man. There's just two shed symbiotes. One in the 616 bar and one in the Sony bar. I really don't know why everyone thinks it was retconned, since nothing in Venom 3 suggests this.

marioxb2025-10-22 02:38

I think there were two symbiotes left behind.

JosephBoss2025-10-22 06:07

I consider all end credit scenes post endgame non-canon cuz none of them have been acted on (it’s been like 6 years now

Sckathian2025-10-22 07:18

It doesn't even feel like Sony weirdness when you consider how much of the MCU credit scenes mean nothing. Like it's maddening at this point.

XComThrowawayAcct2025-10-22 12:27

I consider these end credit scenes to be metaphors for the corporate negotiations between Walt Disney Co. and Sony Corp.

Ok_Relationship15992025-10-22 14:02

As of now I’m 50/50.

They reshot the Symbiote scene for let there be carnage where the Symbiote is left on Eddies world and not the main MCU. In that sense I think it’s been retconned.

On the other hand, it’s entirely possible that Venom splitting off a piece of himself happened in both universes. We just saw the aftermath in eddies universe because he’d already been sent back.

ProfessionalRead27242025-10-23 00:04

It doesn't need to be retconned because it was just a throwaway joke that never ever was going to lead somewhere in a millon years.

ih8three6zero2025-10-23 00:10

Internet bound and determined to force Venom in kinda like new Superman and that dog shit Batman movie.

dirtyjersey2112025-10-24 06:06

It's the exact same thing as the Vulture scene. It didn't happen