Maybe a warm take but I really don't want Doctor Doom to be a powerscaling jerkoff with generic motivation
I really don't want Doctor Doom's goals to be just to take over the multiverse or something, and I REALLY don't want some huge feat like killing the council of Kangs or tearing Thanos' spine right at the start of Doomsday, because he doesn't need to start out as a Multiversal villain right at the start of Doomssay. I think the best direction they could take with him in Doomsday is to just have him be one of the several parties of the 3 Earths trying to deal with Incursions, maybe by trying to destroy the other Earths to stop them from colliding with 828, and only resort to creating Battleworld and killing Loki/Kang at the end once he realizes the entire Multiverse is doomed. He doesn't need to be the main Threat of Doomsday, the Incursions are enough threat, he could just be the more villainous party trying to deal with them until the end, since he's willing to go further to protect his Universe. I feel like that'd be much more impactful than the billion cringe "Doom is gonna kill (insert character/s) at the start of Doomsday to show how strong he is" theories. Doomsday should be the *origin story* or God Emperor Doom, not have him from the start.
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But regardless, neither of those things have anything to do with intentions.
it's the same thing some people tried to say about Kang. Ant-Man beat him so that 'ruined' him. But the threat of kang wasnt about beating one of him, it was about an infinite number of a bad guy that it takes like 5 heroes to stop even 1. So to me it seems like a conclusion reached without putting much thought into it.
Same applies here. Thanos dies to what, infinity ultron, so that makes him somehow irrelevant? Or the version of Thanos where T'challa was Starlord died (I cant remember if that happened tbh, seems irrelevant) and that's significant for some reason?
Not a rational take imo.
This time, Tony Stark is evil while Victor Von Doom is the moderate.
Otherwise, you have a gigantic army hell-bent on obliterating 616 as revenge...that's a can of worms nobody wants to open.
So, the Russos most likely just sweep it under the rug, refer to it as an elseworld story, and just dismiss it entirely as non-canon to the MCU.
**The multiverse probably won't immediately collapse at the end of Doomsday;** it just ends with Doom conquering the TVA, sitting on Loki's throne (confirmed in the recent light show) and attempting to use it to *slow down* the collapse.
**Doom might not even kill Loki,** as Tom Hiddleston is confirmed to be in Secret Wars and he said that *Loki's arc will conclude in Secret Wars,* not Doomsday.
I*f the old Illuminati STAYS dead and is replaced by a new much more ruthless council, then yes, this world will be vengeful.* **But if the old Illuminati council got resurrected by infinity stones or 838's Franklin Richards, then you are correct- the old council would NOT want revenge** because ultimately Wanda repented and destroyed all Darkholds. Thus, putting an end to dreamwalking forever.
If Marvel wanted Dr. Doom to just be Dr. Doom they could have cast literally any other actor and saved millions and millions of dollars.
This could also be a way for us to be introduced to a variant of Tony who was actually born to Howard and Maria, who then takes over the mantle of Iron Man in 616.
They already did “Watch the villain march to victory over the course of a movie” with Infinity War. It would be cliche to see that again. Set Doom up as an ally, only to have him stab the multiverse in the back and seize control when the opportunity arises.
Both worlds are saved and everyone goes back home. But Doom isn’t gone. He wakes up in the dark dimension where Strange and Clea show up. The Beyonders have set their eyes on this multiverse and they need Doom’s help to stop them. This leads to Doctor Strange 3: Time Runs Out, which is a Strange and Doom team up movie. That movie leads directly into Secret Wars where Doom reshapes the entire multiverse in this image.